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Ep. 82 Journey Through Dimensions: Psychic Medium June Edward
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Have you ever wondered what lies beyond the veil between life and death? June Edward has not only glimpsed it—she's made communicating across this boundary her life's work.
When June was 27, a routine MRI procedure went catastrophically wrong. She died on the table, experiencing what she describes as a journey to "the lowest level of heaven." When she returned to her body, her latent psychic abilities had transformed into something extraordinary. The veil between worlds had become permeable, allowing her to see and communicate with those who had crossed over.
June takes us deep into her experiences working alongside the Warrens' paranormal investigation team, describing hair-raising encounters with demonic entities and heartbreaking interactions with earthbound spirits seeking to cross into the light. With remarkable precision, she explains the difference between spirits (those who've crossed over) and ghosts (those who remain earthbound), detailing how their energy manifests and interacts with our world.
Perhaps most fascinating is how June's psychic gifts inform her work as a relationship expert. She outlines five essential lessons every soul must learn—self-worth, trust/communication, unconditional love, money/balance, and patience—and explains how mastering these lessons breaks destructive relationship patterns. Her insights into energy, vibration, and soul connections offer a fresh perspective on why relationships succeed or fail.
Whether recounting her experience of seeing her mother's soul transition to a higher realm or explaining how entities can attach themselves to unsuspecting people in public places, June's stories challenge conventional understandings of reality while offering practical wisdom for navigating both earthly relationships and spiritual encounters.
Ready to explore the extraordinary intersection of psychic abilities, paranormal investigation, and relationship dynamics? This episode will transform how you think about energy, connection, and the unseen forces that shape our lives. Visit JuneEdward.com to learn more about her books, services, and relationship program.
Thanks for watching what's going on. This is scolarius, I am john olsen, and with me, as always, is dw, the duchess, the woozle, wuzzle, serene Dang it.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, I really screwed, that up Hang on your first time back.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I'm out of practice. All right, that's okay. How?
Speaker 2:was your hiatus. It was good, well, so it's. The reason I had to take a hiatus is it's been very, very busy around here. We've had a lot of parties and celebrations and trips and other stuff. So the reason I missed last time was just that it happened to coincide with when we usually record. So it's been busy, it's been fun. So, yeah, and you've taken an unplanned hiatus. I don't know how much you want to elaborate on that. I'll leave it up to you.
Speaker 1:I mean we, yeah, so there's something you know, um, I don't know so my mom got hurt and uh, when she got hurt, she, I mean she almost kicked it. I mean it was close, like if, uh, ironic she got up in the middle of the night, uh, she went to go use the restroom or something and uh, she like passed out. And she passed out, she dropped, she hit her head, um, also broke her hip, um. With that being said, she laid there several feet away from a phone, several feet away from anything, and nobody could get a hold of her and whatnot. And it went on for about 33 hours before she was found. And she was found.
Speaker 1:She's OK, I mean she's not, but she's, she's, she's okay. Uh, I mean she's, she's not, but she's okay, she's alive. Um, yeah, she seems to have most of her faculties with her. Uh, you know all that stuff, you know, but yeah, it was, it was a different ordeal. Uh, we got stuff, uh, uh, recorded out of, uh, well, I mean, as on the scolarius front, we got stuff recorded out of time and whatever else, but we, we did get things done, but yeah, so she's, uh, she, she's recovering, but I, I mean you know, so yeah, so good to know that she's all right.
Speaker 2:But that's a good segue to. I actually did listen to last week's episode and happy to hear that things were able to continue on. I just for the record, if anyone has a chance to see Zach live, he is really funny. I'm jealous. He's one of those comedians that can just talk about his life and it's hilarious. He's worth it if you ever get a chance to see him. He did a good job of filling in. Um, I did uh appreciate his impersonation of me and I thought it was hilarious that his impersonation of me is me saying to you I don't like your impersonation of me yeah, that was, that was brilliant.
Speaker 2:I uh, I loved that so.
Speaker 1:So a couple firsts, then, obviously, I hosted the show without dw yeah and uh, a couple actually, but it's okay, we got them all out but and you actually listened, so I mean that is pretty and like, like you said, I I listened to it because I wasn't on it.
Speaker 2:I, I cannot hear myself. Um, it's part of why I? I was a recording artist for a while. I had to stop because I couldn't edit my own music, I couldn't listen to it anymore. So, um, I, I can't hear my own voice. I can't see myself. Watching videos is even worse, um, but yeah, I listen to it. But also because and we talked about this like when I don't know about you, but when I'm performing in a show, doing stand-up, I always like to see who's ahead of me, who's in the show ahead of me, because I feel you need to acknowledge what just happened. So, if something monumental happened with the comic in front of you, I feel like you can't ignore it. You can't just continue on and pretend nothing happened, right, um, because the audience saw it and, in this case, the audience heard it. So I, in this case, the audience heard it. So I feel like I have to. I had to listen to last week so I could, you know, be on the same page as everyone else.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, it got hairy, not hairy, but it was. It was funny, mr. You know, not being offensive was very offensive. I was like, yeah, I mean okay, like I said, if I'm gonna be the moral high ground here, then that's probably not not the uh, the best, but no, it did well uh I think um.
Speaker 2:I haven't had anybody complain yet. So yeah, yeah. Um, I think it might be interesting. Some week we should maybe try the three of us together.
Speaker 1:I think it'd be fun. I will. We'll bring it back on, I'm sure for sure, sure yeah special. You got to remember. We're inching in on 100 episodes and the hundredth episode has always got to be a big, good episode, right? Not like any of the other ones are bad. I'm just saying, like the number 100, that's amazing. You know, that's a lot of podcasts don't last past three, a whole lot more. Don't last to a hundred. You know what I mean. So we're getting there only a few weeks away.
Speaker 2:So yeah, we should, we'll, we'll have them back. And also if scheduling you know we have been doing this thing where if, in terms of scheduling, if something doesn't work out, we usually double up the week before. Um, but if it's only me that has the scheduling conflict, now we know we've got a backup and maybe that should be our plan B.
Speaker 2:You never know there might be a couple of backups, yeah, and who knows? It depends on you know when it is what, if it works for him, stuff like that. So there's a lot of things that need to align. But point being, zach, you did a great job and I think we'll we'll have you back for sure absolutely.
Speaker 1:I think you did amazing too. I really did um. Did you miss me, dw? Okay, well, at least that's you know, and that's the other thing.
Speaker 2:Listening to the episode, I forgot how boring you actually are. And oh my gosh, it's just. A derailed train has more momentum than the way you talk.
Speaker 1:It's, that's not true, that is no, it's not listen. By the way, it's diet pepsi today, you jerk listen and, by the way, it's diet pepsi today.
Speaker 2:You jerk so to our listeners. Kudos to you if you can listen to john. Oh my gosh, I don't know how you do it, because welcome back dick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um nice, I yeah okay, cool. Well, I mean you can listen that you listen to me, or maybe you want to find me and I know people who have and they've said really mean things to me. But you can find me, but first you need to find dw. You find dw, dw, serene, comedian on facebook. You find me, john also comedian 2. Comedian on Facebook. You find me, john also comedian 2.0 on Facebook. You can find us both together on Facebook but we're not a couple.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was great. Even Zach stuck up for me and pointed out that we're not a couple, even though I wasn't there. That was thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I need to make that clear. We are not a couple. You can also find us on our TikTok page, which is Scalerius8, and also Instagram, at guess what it was. Guess what it is Scalerius something.
Speaker 1:If you want to get a hold of me or send me hate mail, you can do so at ScaleriusPod, at gmailcom, and I suppose if you want to and only if you want to you can go back and listen to every single episode that we have at ScaleriusPodBuzzsproutcom. You know, when you're doing all that stuff I'm sure you're probably like, hey, you know DW and John, they're pretty nice guys, they're cool. We like to listen to John, especially during those shows. But, like, if you want to like really act, like you're really cool with us, you can go to crowdmadecom forward slash collections, forward slash Sclariousious pod and you can get our merch, DW. What kind of merch do we have?
Speaker 2:We have pet bowls, we have collars, leashes, we have sweatshirts, t-shirts, hats, hats for the winter, hats for this time of year. We have ghosters, which is what we call coasters. They're coasters of ghosts, so they're ghosters, which is what we call coasters. They're coasters of ghosts, so they're ghosters dw, what's your favorite t-shirt? Oh, it's obviously the.
Speaker 1:Uh, I don't know who john olsen is okay, that's, that's very, which is actually one of our uh best sellers and I'm very sorry, my own queen consort has that shirt, uh, which I said is both I. I don't know what she's, it's she's being, I think I think she's.
Speaker 2:I think it's just insurance that if something were to happen she would be like he's not with me and I've got the shirt to prove it.
Speaker 1:So well, let's hope, that don't happen oh dw, what?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, I know we were going in the crowd made and everything. And yes, you can buy shirts. You can buy the old criper shirt that's my favorite, or you can buy my shirt. You can buy the, the pet bowls. You can buy the leash, the collar. You can use those for your dog or cat or hamster guinea pig or, if you want, to, your significant other. That's cool. You can do any of that at crowdmadecom. Forward slash collections. Forward slash sclarious pod. Uh, one thing. And then we got to get into. We have a guest today, dw, you know, I didn't only bring you on, I brought somebody else on too. But hear me out, I feel and I even brought it up to the queen consort okay, that myself and her should reenact Jim and Pam's wedding.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with the whole shebang, the whole thing.
Speaker 1:That means even the, the maid of the mist. Uh, I don't know about that, but like, yeah, that one's gonna be a little rough. It would be us out outside in a, in a kiddie pool, with a little boat there, and then somebody's like spraying water on it. No, but I but I felt like for our wedding we should do Jim and Pam's wedding. I just think it'd be really cool. You can't tell me, being in the entertainment industry, that we don't have people that would act like Kevin and Oscar and Michael and Angela and all those people that would do any and all. I'm just saying I think it'd be a whole lot of fun. What?
Speaker 2:do you think it?
Speaker 1:I mean it'd take a lot of work, but uh, it could work, yeah, yeah well, I'll tell you what we'll, we'll, we'll table this and we'll ask our guest about it, because our guest today, okay, not, not only is she a psychic medium, uh, she's an author, also a relationship expert. See, see, the whole jim and pam wedding, me being the yeah, yeah, all that we can, we can see what we can do there. Uh, ladies and gentlemen, welcome on june. Edward, june, how are you tonight?
Speaker 3:I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:You're very welcome. This is pretty amazing. We're going to give the listeners a little peek behind the curtain here. Our pre-show chat, like right before I hit record, brought up some really cool stuff about you and both myself and DW were like hey, like hey, stop, we need to talk about this show. So, um, first, like I said, you're a psychic medium, uh, but what got me was, I guess, your introduction into the paranormal, and that was because you were an investigator with who now?
Speaker 3:um. So tony spera is the son-in-law of lorraine and ed warren, and I was working with one of his groups for a little bit wow, nesper yeah, um, I'm sorry was it nesper? Um, no, actually okay his name's eluding me at the moment, but I think tony had me go through the museum and, um you know, tell him about a lot of the artifacts and things like that too, which was wow, so you, uh you came face to face with annabelle huh um, I actually did um an event with him in connecticut at that, annabelle.
Speaker 3:Huh, I actually did an event with him in Connecticut at that. Annabelle was there and very, very dangerous, very dangerous. I have to laugh because there's somebody on Facebook going around different countries or somewhere with a raggedy Ann doll claiming it's Annabelle. If there's no way he would let that out of the case. No way, it's way tooelle. If there's no way he would let that out of the case. No way, it's way too dangerous.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:When I was there it actually shifted. So we were all having our pictures taken next to it and I noticed that one of the girls from California that was there had her picture taken right after me and the doll had moved like a quarter turn when no one was looking, the whole position of the doll was off.
Speaker 1:Jeez, that thing is crazy. Obviously, dw, have you seen any of the Conjuring movies, anything like that? Any of the Annabelle? None, no, wow, you should watch. I'll tell you what, dw. You should watch that because I think me and you are going to do an episode on the Warrens, so you should probably watch the conquering stuff.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you you look in the case and you can literally see demonic faces inside the case.
Speaker 1:I was going to say it's horrible. What are your honest I? I mean obviously you said horrible. So what did you pick up other than bad energy?
Speaker 3:yes, big time it's that it's demonically possessed absolutely no doubt about it. And it's, and it's got a um, it's got a trove of demonic spirits in there with it. It's not just possessed by one spirit, there was many within the case and that case was specially built. Dan rivera built that case, so it's been blessed. It's made out of I think he's used a special wood for it. It's got the lord's prayer in it. It's got all kinds of stuff to keep that entity inside of there.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah, I are, they still is. Is it still like, uh, still the same thing, where he's like don't mock the doll, and I mean so the reality of it is everything's energy.
Speaker 3:Everything in the universe is energy. You don't play with demonic energy. It's that simple. I mean, they don't have a body at this point and they're much more powerful on the other side than they ever were. Here I was, I used to consult with um authors and different people, and there was an author from Canada that was having me consult on one of the books he was doing and he sent me pictures to look at, and he did not tell me that these pictures were from a house in Canada that had been owned by a sorcerer. And as I'm telling him on the phone what I'm seeing in these pictures, I'm literally my eye starts swelling up and within minutes I had a full blown stye in my eye that took months to go away. Had I known, I would have done a lot more protection than I had done.
Speaker 1:Wow, just to think that it could get you from that far away.
Speaker 3:There's no boundaries. This is how psychic mediums work, right. Our energy is just going somewhere else. So your soul is you're not the suit that sits here, you're the soul inside. That's pure energy, and your soul is way too big for your body. So you got some of it in your body, some of it's over your body that people can see and they call it an aura. That's part of your soul, and then the majority of it is actually in the lowest level of heaven, the fifth dimension dimension. So when a psychic medium is doing astral projection, they're actually sending their energy, their soul, somewhere else, which is still connected to their body, so that they can give you that insight and what they're saying. So you brought up the psychic.
Speaker 1:I mean I know I did it in the introduction, but you brought up the psychic. I mean I know I did it in the introduction, but you brought up the fact you're a psychic medium. Tell us a little bit about that. When did you realize that you were a psychic and how to go from there?
Speaker 3:So I was born with a lot of ability. And when I was a child, you know, I'd wake up in the morning. And you know, first time it ever happened, I was probably about three and I heard someone calling my name, get out of bed, thinking it was my parents going to check on them. And they're fast asleep. I go back into my bed and I start noticing faces all around my room, scared the heck out of me. And you know, as I got older, I was seeing people that weren't really there and I didn't know that. I thought everybody saw them. So fear is what stops you from seeing them, it's what stops everybody from seeing them.
Speaker 3:And when I got older, I just knew, for some reason, I was never going to be 30. I knew I was never going to live to be 30. And when I was 27, I had injured my back when I was 22. And I knew if I had surgery I was going to die. And at 27, I had no choice but to go in for the surgery. I told my husband the night before I said listen, I'm going to die. Oh, no, you're just afraid. I said, no, I'm telling you I'm going'm gonna die.
Speaker 3:And the night before the surgery, I had an MRI done with a contrast dye and I told them I thought I was allergic to it. I'd had it once before and I had a very bad reaction. I couldn't get off the table and they told me it was a common reaction. Everybody has that, nothing to worry about. And as soon as they injected me I died and I immediately went to heaven. I went to the lowest level of heaven, which I now know to be the fifth dimension, and I could still see everything that was happening below. I could see what they were doing to my body. I could see the nurses talking about it at the station and the people in the room behind me.
Speaker 3:But then I looked and I started seeing this full-blown movie playing out in front of me. It was like sitting in the front row of an IMAX theater and it was my life review and it was everybody that had been in my life, that had brought me joy, had been kind to me and had a very difficult life, very difficult upbringing, and they were just showing me those times in my life that people cared and that were happy for me. And then I heard someone behind me tell me that it's not my time. I can stay if I want to, or I can go back. It's my choice.
Speaker 3:And I was feeling such overwhelming love and such, you know, just weightlessness. I'm thinking in my head well, I'm not coming back for my family and I'm not going to go back for my friends. I'm not going back for my husband. I can't think of any reason that I'd go back. And then I suddenly realized that I had two young children still. They were not in my movie and I knew that they were the biggest reason that I came here to begin with and that they brought me the most joy in my life.
Speaker 3:And as soon as I decided I was going to come back, I was back in my body immediately wow, yeah and you would think that at that point in time things would have changed as far as my abilities go, but I was still afraid of them. You know, when we're in this body, we have a brain. Your brain not only is a computer processing all your stuff, but it also has a specific job. Your brain's job is to protect you. How does it do it? It creates fear. So people make all their decisions based on fear. And I was still living in fear and on fear. And I was still living in fear. And you know I did. I was listening to my soul and not knowing at the time that that's what I was doing and that's the knowing that you get. Everybody's had that happen. They just knew there's something they're supposed to do and they don't really think it through a lot, they just do it and it works out perfect because that's your soul giving you the direction.
Speaker 3:And about 12 years ago now, I guess, I was going through a very difficult time period and I went to have some Reiki done and she recommended that I meditate. And the same thing every one of my students has ever told me there's no way I can shut my brain off and meditate. It's too hard. And the first time I went home and tried, it was like they kicked the door into the other side she's ready and I just couldn't shut it off. I was waking up again with them all around my bed. I was a medical esthetician at the time and every person that came into my room I knew everything there was to know about them.
Speaker 1:What's a medicalist? Yeah, esthetician, it's a difficult. Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 3:Um, we work on skin problems. Uh, severe acne issues, scarring um those types of things very cool lesson one is trying to pronounce esthetician, yeah but it was crazy.
Speaker 3:You know the first person that came in my room. I'm like, um, did your aunt recently die? And she's like, yeah, how'd you know that? And I'm like I have no idea how I knew that. I'm like, did you just clean her house out? She goes yeah, this past weekend we cleaned the house out. I'm like, did you happen to find one of those sock puppet monkeys you know from the 1950s? She goes, yeah, we found one in the attic. And I'm like, oh my god, how random is that right?
Speaker 1:how does that come to you like? Do you hear it or do you see it?
Speaker 3:No, it's just there, it's just so. It's different for everything and everyone. Okay, so if I'm bringing through your grandfather, I'll literally see him in 3D standing there like a person, and you have to remember that when you go into the light, speed of light is almost 300 million miles. A second right that's how fast they're moving. This is why we can't normally see them, and that's how fast they're talking most of the time. So most of the time it's sign language. If they've learned how to slow themselves down enough, I can hear them speak, but I can't repeat it fast enough, so I basically just let them talk through me. It's very rare when I get one that can really talk slowly. Most of them don't.
Speaker 1:You just blew my mind. You said that ghosts or spirits, whatever, move at the speed of light.
Speaker 3:If they've gone into the light. So no, I don't call someone that's gone to heaven a ghost.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:That's a spirit. They come back and forth. They visit A ghost is someone that has died and not gone into the light, so they're stuck here and they're still the same vibration as human beings.
Speaker 3:That's a low vibrational entity. That's what I call them a ghost. They have the same vibration they were as when they were alive, because they have not gone into the light. Big difference. And then a demonic entity is such a low vibration that it literally gives you a sick pit in your stomach, makes you sick to your stomach. It's all energy. You have to feel the energy that's pretty.
Speaker 1:You have a really good grasp on on this meaning. Like you, you can really describe it in ways that nobody else has an amazing education from the other side, whether I wanted to or not okay, so talk about some of the educations that I mean.
Speaker 3:So I kept getting contacted by a woman going back about 10 years ago from Connecticut whose family had a demon that was following them around. They had moved 10 times in eight years and I kept trying to find a paranormal group or somebody up there to go up there and help this woman and I couldn't get anybody up there. So you know, she's telling me it's attacking her son, it's biting him, it's attacking her mother. Finally, I just said fine, I got Tony's crew from the Warrens and they went up to the house with me and it was about a three-and-a-half-hour ride for me to get there. It was quite a distance and I let them know that I needed to have access to the entire apartment. They lived in a three-family. I said I need to have access to every single solitary room.
Speaker 3:Now, mind you, I usually work with entities from the light and angels. I don't work with demons unless I absolutely have to, and this is the first time that I've ever done this. So before I did this, I talked to them on the other side and I'm like I'm a little concerned about doing this. I don't want to say I'm afraid, because I know you'll be with me, but I'm a little worried and they're like you have nothing to worry about, the angels will be with you, we will all be with you and we'll go in there and you'll be fine. I'm like, okay, so I go up there and, um, they're recording it and they've got all their fancy little pods and all this stuff.
Speaker 3:And we went into the house and the first thing they did was show us the son's back. They lifted the shirt up and we saw the bite marks and as we're standing there, another one was starting. I'm like, get them out of the house, get everybody out of the house. And then I told him. I said you know, they're in the basement. There's demonic activity in the basement. That's where it is. But there was a lot more going on in this house. They couldn't sleep in one of the bedrooms, somebody they just kept getting pulled out of the bed and it smelled like somebody died in there.
Speaker 1:Jesus.
Speaker 3:So we go in the room. Sure enough there's a guy in there in his late 20, about 28 years old. He died in there with drug overdose and he did not go into the light. So when anybody tried to sleep in the room he would yank him out of the bed. So when I tried to get him to go into the light, he was afraid to go into the light because he knew his mother was probably there and that she would be disappointed that he'd let her down. And I explained to him that that's not the case and I did call on his mom and he came and he went right into the light with her and the smell disappeared immediately.
Speaker 3:Then the middle room had an old lady sitting in there that they were a little afraid of. It was the daughter's bedroom and they had bunk beds in there and she's always messing with the kids. So I go in there and she refused to leave and she's just sitting there and she didn't even want to talk to me and she's just kind of an angry look on her face. I'm like I'll go back in there after. So I went into the kitchen and I found this little girl, probably about eight years old, sitting in the bottom of like one of the cabinets that was pulled out. And I see this guy pacing back and forth, back and forth, back and forth in the kitchen and she's like he's going to kill me. He's going to kill me. So I'm like what is your deal? And apparently he was a mob hit man in like the twenties and thirties and this was his daughter that was in the cabinet and she had witnessed him kill someone and so he's going to kill her, his own daughter, because she's a witness. And I'm trying to get him to go into the light and he's like what's going to happen? I've killed people. What happens when I go into the light? I'm like I cannot tell you, I have no idea what's going to happen to you if you go into the light. And he refused. I said well, you can't stay here, you cannot stay in this house. So I was able to get him out of the house. As soon as I got him out of the house, the old woman from the middle room came out. It was his mother and the girl's grandmother and she took the little girl and I moved those two into the light immediately.
Speaker 3:Then we go down to the basement. The basement had probably 60 to 70 souls there. They were Irish immigrants. They came over during the potato famine. So what happens with spirits when they die is, you know, energy is collective, okay, and it attracts each other because we're like magnets, we're always either attracting or repelling. So they find each other, okay, and this was probably a home that one of them at least lived in when they came over and when they passed they were afraid to go into the light and it was a safe space for them. So they went back there and then others found them and that was a collective.
Speaker 3:But the demon was down there and they were there before the demon got there, because the demon came with the family and the demon was screaming and swearing. And I'm chasing it around around the basement and I'm letting it know that you know I came from the light, I've been in the light, I'm here with the angels and you know I'm telling these, these souls, these Irish immigrants, that they need to go into the light, that their families are there, and they're like well, he told us we'll burn up if we go into the light. And I'm like no, no, no, go into the light. So they formed a line and just boom into the light. So now this demon's even angrier at me because he's drawing energy from these other souls. So now we go back upstairs and now we're going to go up to the second floor.
Speaker 3:We go up to the second floor and he's still in front of me and I'm like chasing this demon. And they're filming this and they've got recorders on. And there was a little Italian woman in the kitchen cooking and I told her that she doesn't have to be there any longer because her family's long gone. So she went into the light and then I can hear this demon snarling at me and growling and swearing. And I looked at these guys and I'm like, can you hear that? Can can hear this demon snarling at me and growling and swearing. And I looked at these guys and I'm like, can you hear that? Can you hear this thing? And they're like, no, we don't hear anything. Like, see if the recorder picked it up. And sure enough, they turned the recorder back and they could hear it on the recorder. Now they get scared.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:So then we went into the rooms on the the second floor I guess it was only a two family up and down and, um, it had like an attic off to the side. It was a big room and we went in there. Same thing it had italian immigrants in there. There were probably about 20 or 30 of them, and I moved them into the light and I'm still chasing this demon. And now he goes across the hall into a room and the door was closed. Try to open the door. It's locked. Now we have to find the lady. I said I'm like I told you I need to get into all the rooms. She's like well, I can't get in there. My daughter has the key. I said well, I can't get rid of this demon if I can't get in there. This is where he's going to hide. You know I can't stay rid of this demon if I can't get in there, this is where he's going to hide. You know I can't stay. You don't know when your daughter's coming home. I said we can't.
Speaker 3:So I did a blessing through the whole house, cleared the house the best I could. I cleared the people. They spoke Spanish and the grandmother had Alzheimer's and she was seeing this thing and it was attaching itself to her because it was feeding off of her fear. So I tried to explain to her that she can't be afraid of it and I left her with a cross that anytime she sees it, she knew the cross, she knew the rosary. She was to show it that. So it would leave her alone and that was all I could do. I left them with some sage, some holy water and told them what to do when they opened that door, and that was the best I could do. It did leave them alone for probably three or four months and then it was back again and then they moved again. But you can't get rid of it unless you have complete access to get rid of it completely, because it'll run and it'll hide that's really interesting stuff.
Speaker 1:Like you, I don't wow, like I've never had anybody. First of all, you explain your psychic abilities very, very well. I mean, they're very detailed in in what you see. Like we have had psychics and mediums on and ask the question like what do you see? And and they're kind of I'm not gonna say vague, but maybe a little vague and they're just like, well, we just see. You know what I mean, but you you're very everybody's abilities are different.
Speaker 3:um, you know, my, my abilities are very strong. There's no denying it. My abilities are very strong. There's no denying it, my abilities are very strong. I can only attribute that to the fact that I died and came back. That's the only thing I contribute to, because we're all about vibration and my vibration is still very high from having been at 300 million miles, a second right. If I could connect quickly, I can go back and forth between that fifth dimension at will. Um, I see angels, um, I see them, I see, you know. I mean, I've gone into a grocery store and you know I'm trained well enough so that when I'm working it's I'm on and when I'm not, it's off. Okay, um, and this, I still see the things that I see.
Speaker 3:I walked into a grocery store one day and I see the guy at the, at the doors, coming in, who looked like, you know, just a disheveled drunk, and I wasn't paying attention to his energy and I did a double take because I wasn't sure if he was an entity or if he was real. And he saw me do the double take and he's like you can see me, and I'm like, oh, no, I'm like yeah, but I'm not working right now. He goes, you need to talk to me. I said I'm sorry but I'm not working right now, and there was a display of hot dogs and hamburger buns at the door and he picked up a package and threw it at me and it only went about three feet but the poor woman at the register saw this bag of bread get off the shelf and go. She's like oh my God, did you see that? And I'm like yep, and I just kept walking.
Speaker 1:So when you okay, that's again fascinating. So when you are off, they still come to you.
Speaker 3:So every medium has what's called a gatekeeper.
Speaker 3:And he's always right here. Mine is an American Indian, brave, and he is the person that if I walked into a room of 300 people and I was doing an event, he would line up the souls on the other side and tell me who they're connected with and who to call on. Okay, and we're always in charge. So his direction is that unless I'm working, souls are not allowed to come through to me from the other side unless it's an emergency. And I've only had two emergencies where souls were able to come through to me when I was not working.
Speaker 1:So I happen to be in the shower so was that disheveled man an emergency or no?
Speaker 3:no, I see them, but he's not able to interact with me. He's stuck here. He's a ghost, he's not coming through from the other side. Got it oh?
Speaker 1:okay, he's stuck here as a ghost. He's not coming through from the other side, got it?
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, he's stuck here as a ghost yeah.
Speaker 3:So, the first one that was able to come through with me as an emergency was a friend of mine who had passed away like a year prior and I was in the shower getting ready because I was leaving for vacation. And I turned around and she's in my shower and scared the bejesus out of me. I'm like what are you doing here? And she's like you've got to call. You know her, her husband. You've got to call Steve. You've got to call Steve. He's going to kill himself. And I'm like what she goes into? He's going to kill. You've got to. I'm like you've got to go.
Speaker 3:I'm like, okay, so now I'm catching a plane in a couple hours. I don't have time. It would take me two hours round trip just to go see him. So I called him on the phone and let him know I would be there Monday morning for coffee. And then I called him over the weekend again to remind him that I was gonna be there bright and early Monday morning. And when I got there Monday morning I sat down and I said you know, peggy came to see me on Friday. He goes, yeah. I said. She told me you were to try and take your own life and he started crying he goes. Yeah, she went to see my brother too.
Speaker 3:I'm like wow, yeah so that was an emergency um. And the second one that came to me was another friend of mine's, fiance. He had pneumonia. He was in the hospital, he was in the icu, but they told her he would be fine. So she went back to work and she worked in New Hampshire and he was in Massachusetts in the hospital and he shows up at my house.
Speaker 3:I'm like what happened? And he's like I don't know what to do. He goes. I went to see Lynn at work. He goes and I can't get back in my body and I'm like he goes. I don't know what I did wrong. I can't get back in my body and I'm like he goes. I don't know what I did wrong. I can't get back in my. I'm like you didn't do anything wrong. When you, when you're so left to go visit her, like an astral projection, basically, um, your, your body died, so you can't get back into it. There's nothing that he did. Um. And that that was difficult because now I know he's dead, she doesn't. I couldn't call her and tell her. I had to wait until the hospital called and told her that was tough.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, crazy stuff I just I'm sorry, I can't get over how just absolutely detailed every specific thing you're saying like it. It's crazy, it really is. That is I. Like I said, we've had dozens of psychic mediums on here and they've not god bless them not saying it was bad or whatever, and, like you said, probably different abilities, whatever, but they never that fine-tuned with what they're seeing is because they are on a different vibration or ability than so it's.
Speaker 3:you know, it's kind of like playing a piano, right? Everybody has psychic ability, everyone has it, and everyone that's gone through any of my courses and classes also has mediumship ability. As long as you're pure of heart, you'll have mediumship ability. If you're doing it for the wrong reason, they're not going to work with you. Okay, but it's like playing a piano. Some people sit down, all they do is chopsticks. Other people want to learn it and they'll teach themselves a couple of songs. Other people want to do it for a living and they become concert pianists and they train, right. And then you have the six-year-old prodigy that sits down and plays Mozart, and that's kind of me.
Speaker 1:Wow, so you're like above and wow, that's like saying you're the Michael Jordan ofordan of psychics, are you, are you?
Speaker 3:I'm. I'm very grateful that I got very well trained um when my abilities really opened up for me, because otherwise, you know, you can't be on all the time. It drives people crazy and this is with people self-medicate. They end up becoming alcoholics and drug addicts because they can't shut it off. I mean, when you're waking up in the morning and you got, you know, 10 people around your bed because you know they've been gotten into your house and they attracted by your vibration, it's a scary thing, it's a very scary thing I don't think there'll be 10 people around my bed.
Speaker 1:No, not, I'm just saying like, from what the queen consort has said, I emit some gaseous things like during mustard gas huh during the evening, you might be attracting the wrong kind of entity at that point demonic entities smell the same way. Oh wow well.
Speaker 2:I was going to say, if it's so strong that even the other side can smell it, then that's pretty bad yeah.
Speaker 1:That's what she says? I doubt it.
Speaker 2:I doubt it's that bad, but I know I'm dead. But gosh, this is unbelievable, that's funny.
Speaker 1:So, ok, obviously you're a kick-ass psychic medium. Let's talk about the other thing. I know it's different, but maybe not. Maybe we could throw some paranormal into this part, and I know that DW has questions. So you also say you're a relationship expert, all right question. So you also say you're a relationship expert, correct, all right. So first of all, what's the bonuses of being a psychic medium and a relationship expert?
Speaker 3:so I can help people understand why things are happening in their life. So, so, first of all, the universe will want to offer you choices. Right, Everybody thinks they have choices. The universe offers you door one, two and three. You take door one. You go through it, you get married. You have a couple of kids, you get divorced. Where are you going to be? In front of door one, two and three again. Most people creatures of habit. They're going to take door one again. They're going to get married. They're going to have more kids. They're going to get divorced again.
Speaker 3:There's five lessons everyone has to learn for their soul to advance. And until you learn that lesson, you're going to keep repeating the same patterns and the same things over and over again until you learn that lesson. So if you've learned that lesson, you're not going to take door one anymore. You're going to take door two or door three, and you may still get married and have children, but it's not going to end in a divorce the same way the other two did, because you learned the lesson you were supposed to learn.
Speaker 3:Now you want to know what the five lessons are right. So the first lesson is self-worth and it's not value, because that's what other people place on you. Self-worth is the understanding that you are so important. You are the only one of you in this entire universe. Okay, You're here for a reason and you have to learn how to put yourself first. It's the most important thing and it's where all the lessons begin, because if you can't love yourself first, you'll never be able to love someone else. And it's not selfish and it's not narcissistic to put yourself first, as society would like you to believe. If you don't put yourself first, you're just not going to be here to be able to help anyone else, Are you?
Speaker 3:No it all starts with you and no one else can make you happy. I can't make you anything. I can't look at you and say, oh, you have to fall in love with me. It doesn't work that way. You are the only person that can make yourself happy, and when you do that, your vibration rises and again you'll be like a magnet and you'll attract more happy people on that same vibrational frequency that you're on.
Speaker 3:Okay, so the second lesson is trust and communication, and you have to trust that, first of all, there is a higher power I don't care what you call it buddha, jehovah, god, higher vibration. There was only one, and when you get to the other side, you will find that there is only one. You also have to trust that there's a plan and that you made this plan. So if you don't like something that's happening in your life, you have nobody to blame but yourself for it, because you made the plan. And you did it for a reason because you needed to either learn a lesson or teach someone else a lesson.
Speaker 3:This is the reason that we get into relationships because we learn our lessons faster on this side than on the other side, and faster still within relationships. And relationships aren't just romantic. They could be your parents, your family, your friends, your co-workers, your employees. Those are all relationships. You're in a relationship with a Dunkin' Donut girl if you go get your coffee there every morning and say, hi, okay, everything's a relationship and you have to be able to communicate your wants and needs to the people that are in your life. We don't know by osmosis what you want or what you need, and sex is just another form of communication. If you can't trust and communicate outside the bedroom, you're not going to be able to trust and communicate inside the bedroom.
Speaker 1:DW going to be able to trust and communicate inside the bedroom. Dw, well, you're not a couple, remember?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's right, true then we have unconditional love. And that is very difficult for people, you know. They get into a relationship that's romantic, maybe a marriage. They have children, they fight, they're not happy with each other, they're not happy with each other, they're not happy with themselves, and then, forever after, they have hate. Well, that's a very strong emotion to have and it's not really the opposite of love. The opposite of love is really fear. Okay, that's the opposite of love.
Speaker 3:But you have to learn how to love unconditionally and understand that that person was in your life for a reason. Maybe it was just to have those children, maybe it was a karmic relationship and they're paying a karmic debt back and giving you those beautiful children and that's the only purpose of that relationship. And you have to learn unconditional love. Then you have money and balance, and because everything in the universe has to stay in balance you have the day and the night, up and down, the yin and the yang, the god and the devil everything has to stay in balance, black and white. You have to. Money is what we use in this 3D world to show if your life is in balance. Money is energy. That's why it's called currency. So if you're working too many hours because you're trying to earn extra money. Guess what? You have no time for your family, your friends, your own hobbies. Your life is out of balance. If you're just saving your money, you're not spending it. Again, your life is out of balance. You can't hoard energy. It has to flow just like a river. The more you put out, the more that comes back. You have to understand that no one is meant to live a life of lack. You're all meant to live a life of abundance. All you have to do is ask, ask the universe, ask the angels, ask God. You will get everything you've asked for.
Speaker 3:And this is where the last lesson comes in is patience, because you're going to get it when you're supposed to get it. You're not going to necessarily get it in your time. You're going to get it in the time that it's supposed to come. Let's say you're eight years old and keep saying I want a house when I grow up. I want a house when I grow up. Well, you're not going to get a house at eight years old. What are you going to do with it? Right, but when that time comes, if you keep saying I want a house, I want a house, well, if you can't buy one. Maybe you'll inherit one, but the universe will make sure you get what it is that you want in the time that you're supposed to receive it. That's how it works, and we live in a world right now of instant gratification. Everybody wants everything now. They don't want to wait for anything, and it doesn't work that way. The universe rewards you. You do the work, you get the reward, and I promise you it works that way.
Speaker 3:I could tell you stories of things that have happened in my life that would totally blow your mind, and every one of my students that's gone through my program. I have a seven week online program called the relationship mastery program. Every single one of those students their life has changed 180 degrees. One of them's like it's like the Miss America of Columbia or something. Now, the stories that I could tell you of not even just me, but of the students that have gone through it's incredible. You know it's like Christmas every day when you understand how energy works and how to work with the universe. That's the law of attraction, that's that magnet of bringing things into your life. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1:DW you said you had questions.
Speaker 2:So well. Most recently, though, how many people have relationship? You mentioned the five lessons, but how many of them just get hung up on the first one?
Speaker 3:So the seven-week program teaches everyone all those five lessons and how to balance their energy and maintain that law of attraction. And there are very few people that have actually done the seven-week program in seven weeks. It usually takes people anywhere from 10 to 14 weeks to do the program. Because some and there are very few people that have actually done the seven week program in seven weeks it usually takes people anywhere from 10 to 14 weeks to do the program. Because some people are stubborn and stuck on lessons. Exactly. I had one army sergeant who prided himself in saying he was my most difficult student. He was one of my difficult, but he learned his lessons as well and he has an amazing life Now. He lives on a farm.
Speaker 2:Wow, so one question we should have addressed at the beginning. I'm picking up on an accent when are you from?
Speaker 3:it's a combination of massachusetts and rhode island together I.
Speaker 2:I thought I was gonna say boston if I had to guess.
Speaker 3:So it sounded like I think I lost most of boston I was gonna say no, her, her r's were still ours. I mean, they're not as yeah, it's a little bit of a mix it was definitely there, yeah, so another thing.
Speaker 2:So to backtrack a little bit, one of the things I was wondering is you you keep talking about, um, people going into the light and you help them. You, I mean you, you've just been saying that you help them, but exactly how do you do that? Do you just say it's okay, go ahead, or do you?
Speaker 3:So it's different for everybody. So, for instance, I donate my time to an organization called NODA. No one dies alone. So if someone is dying and they're in hospice and they don't have family or their family can't make it, I try to get over there as soon as I can because I want to make sure that they go into the light when they die. And you know, other people think they're just comatose or they can't talk to them, whatever, but I can psychically have a whole conversation with them. So for the most part I let them know that I've been in the light. What's like in heaven. They don't have to be afraid, and the closer you get to dying, the thinner the veil, the more you see. So their family is there, they see them. Um, one of the last ones that I went to, saint Michael is always in the room, by the way, because he brings everyone to the other side, to the light when you pass, and he was refusing to go because he was waiting for Jesus and I'm like, well, jesus doesn't usually come to help you pass over. St Michael does with your family, but we can call him, not a problem, and he'll come. And sure enough, I called him and he showed up immediately and as soon as he did, this gentleman went with him into the light with St Michael and his family. As soon as he did, this gentleman went with him into the light with St Michael and his family.
Speaker 3:My mom, when she was dying. I got to see the rest of her soul leave her body and we found out she was adopted by her aunt and her aunt, her uncle, her real mother. They were all fighting that night as to who was going to bring her into the light and Archangel Michael had been sitting up on the shelf next to the television for more than 24 hours waiting for her to pass. So when it was time for her to go, I just took her hand and I told her. I said you know what, mom, it's time you got to go now. And she took her last breath and I saw the rest of her soul leave her body and she went to the other side with all of them and they allowed me.
Speaker 3:So during the middle of the night I asked the angel his name and he told me his name was Makael, not Michael. So I looked up Archangel Makael I never heard of it and the definition said that it was the angel that brings advanced souls to the higher realms. And heaven has been described to me like a layer cake where you go to the level based on how advanced your soul is and your belief system, so that you're with your kind like people, and each archangel has a soul group and you reincarnate each time with that soul group. So I saw archangel michael bring my mom to the other side and go right to my father and my two sisters that were already there. I am not able to go to that higher, uh, higher realm in this body.
Speaker 3:I'm allowed to go back to the fifth dimension that I went to when I died, and that's as far as they allow me to go right now while I'm still in this body. But they allowed me to see her go to the higher realm, which was nice. So, yeah, sometimes I have to call. You know I've passed a lot of children. I find a lot of children that are stuck here because they don't realize that they're dead, sometimes if they've been sick and they pass, and they're looking for their family and they're looking for their mom, um, so a lot of times I'm able to call their relatives, their mom, whoever from the other side into the light, and they'll come and bring them into the light.
Speaker 1:So they're all a little different now, how do you know it's them, I mean mean Vibration.
Speaker 3:Wise, like I said, you can tell the difference. The first time I ever had an angel come through, it happened to be a choir angel, which is the highest angel there is. They sit to the right hand of God and I'll tell you, it was like I was on the other side all over again. I was on my knees in tears.
Speaker 2:It was the energy was just incredible, just incredible so you're saying you were there, when part of your person's soul can pass before their body. So their soul has passed completely, but their body is still alive no no okay, no.
Speaker 3:So when you're dying, um, so, as I don't know if I explained it before, but your soul is too big for your body.
Speaker 3:So some of it's in your body, some of it's over your body that people call an aura and can see, and the majority of your body, of your soul, is in that lowest level of heaven, that fifth dimension, and it has all the knowledge of all your lifetimes and it has, it orchestrates the timing of the events that happen in this lifetime. So, just like when I'm astral projecting, if you tell me you wanted me to go see what your wife was doing in the kitchen right now or in the house, and I would kind of go into a little bit of a meditation, a little bit of a trance, I would astral project there to see what she's doing, because I'd be sending my energy, I'd be sending more of my soul there to see what she's doing. So it's the same thing when you're dying, more of your soul is already gone to the other side or it's out of your body and less is in your body, just enough to keep you breathing and keep your vital organs going.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:But it's fear, you know, it's fear that stops people from seeing it themselves. When my dad was was sick and dying, he was 93. And I went to see him one day and he said I want to ask you something about what you do. And I'm like, okay, because he thought it was a big joke. He goes well.
Speaker 3:I want to know why I keep seeing my mother next to my bed in the morning when I wake up. I said well, it's about time, dad. She's been standing here for almost a year. He goes well, that's not really. I said she's been standing here for almost a year. He goes well. That's not really. I said she's going to help you when it's your time to go to the other side. He goes well. That's not really what I want to know. I said well, what do you want to know? Well, how come every time when I wake up, she's only there for a few seconds and then she disappears? I said she doesn't disappear, dad. I said when you wake up, your brain kicks back in and your brain can't believe she's standing there. So this is why you're not seeing her, if you didn't let your brain block it.
Speaker 2:You would see her because she's there so another thing we kind of talked about in the before we started that I think we need to address um, how did you make the uh uh connection between medium and relationship expert? What was the because? I, I, you know, I said, hang on, don't say it. Yet how?
Speaker 3:that doesn't seem like, at least maybe to me, a natural um transition when most psychics start out, or mediums start out, to work their skills. They do card readings, right, you go to events, you go to fairs, you do tarot cards, you do angel cards, you read cards, um, and everybody kept asking me about relationships, and one thing led to another. And about a year or two after my training, I remember sitting in my living room one day and I just heard you need to do a relationship. Oh, you need to. You need to do, um, a relationship videos. And I'm like relationship videos, okay. So I'm now I'm hearing this, that this is what I need to do.
Speaker 3:So I hired a full camera crew, I scripted out 10 videos a video on blended families, one on retirement, one on aging parents. I did 10 videos and I hired this whole professional thing to do these 10 videos. And I have these beautiful 10 videos that I'm like now what am I supposed to do with them? I don't know. You told me to do this, I did this. Now what? So I'm like, okay, I put them on the website. I put them on. I have a relationship group on Facebook. I put them on there. I'm like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do with these things.
Speaker 3:So, probably about 10 more months passed and then I hear you need to create a relationship program to help these people. I'm like, okay, how do I do that? And they lead you where you're supposed to be. It's just like we were saying you know, when the student's ready, the teacher will appear right. And they led me to a wonderful group that helped me be able to make a teaching program.
Speaker 3:But I had to do all the technical stuff myself, so it literally took me a year to put the program together, because there's one program that does the application, another one that does a survey, another one does the commercial, another one that does, you know, the program itself itself. There's all these so many different pieces to put together. It took me a year to be able to put it all together, but it was divinely created. From the other side. It really was, because if the program is done in a timely manner and in order, people shift energetically and then they balance, and then it's just amazing. And if they don't do it in order, it doesn't work. And if they don't do it in a timely manner, it doesn't work. They've got to start it over and do it from the beginning, and then they shift and it's just incredible.
Speaker 1:John's usually not speechless, but I don't know but this is where the book came from.
Speaker 3:The book came from that program, because everyone that went through the program had at least one or more of those same five lessons. They had to learn those all five lessons in order to completely shift, balance and change. And if they were supposed to be with that person, that person came right back to them. It was incredible, because you're on the same frequency. You're on the same frequency as the people that are in your life. Okay, it's like a. It's like a thread that when we talk about frequency, energy just different words for the same thing and when your vibration increases, if they're supposed to be with you on that frequency, their vibration will automatically rise to meet yours.
Speaker 1:Same frequencies, the people that's it's to be a bad knob or something that I can't, I don't know. Same frequency, yeah, I don't think so. So just not in my personal life, because they all run okay. So if we were operating systems, I'd be a windows 8 and they'd be like a linux or whatever, like your linux. It wouldn't, it wouldn't be good.
Speaker 3:Uh, yeah, not to say anything bad about the people in my, in my life well, we're talking about close people in your life oh, okay, okay people that are close to you in your life are on that same energetic frequency and, in fact, you'll notice that when your frequency rises, other people drop off. You lose friends that way, because your vibration comes up theirs doesn't? They fall away? Ah, same thing in a relationship, in an intimate relationship. If you're not getting along, you someone I only work with one person in the program their vibration rises. If this person is supposed to be with them, then their, their vibration is going to come up as well and they're going to meet and they're going to change so if they're not meant to be, then the vibration drops off but you'll also realize that you're not supposed to be with that person.
Speaker 3:You'll know that it's a knowing it's the difference between thinking and knowing and it's also understanding that you don't want to live in the drama and the minutiae. Everything's happening for a reason and when two people aren't getting along, one person is going to continually want to fight with this one because they want the interaction. That's the whole reason for it. So when you start mirroring their actions and don't fall for the bait, basically the whole interaction changes because your power lies in your actions and your reactions with people around you. So when you change your actions, everything else changes around you. The same old thing won't work.
Speaker 1:What does that do for people that, like guys that were out of nowhere guys you know what I'm saying when the wife hits him with divorce papers and he's not knowing why?
Speaker 3:doesn't matter. There is a reason why, and by going through the program they understand the why. So I mean, I've had so many people that reconciled their relationships because, again, once one person changes, the other person has no choice but to change, because for every action there's an equal or greater reaction. Right, yeah. So people change because they have to or they want to. They're not going to do it because you want them to, but when you change, everything else around you changes.
Speaker 1:And once you become the magnet again you draw them right back in. I guess that could be. That's true, I think, dw, have I changed a lot since you've known me?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I'm proud to say I don't share a bedroom with you, so I don't know how that part has changed.
Speaker 3:You're not the same person you were when you woke up this morning. We're constantly changing.
Speaker 2:That's true, yeah.
Speaker 1:I like that. Do you have a question?
Speaker 2:dw. Well, no, I was just gonna say uh, john was. John has gone through some big relationship life changes in the last. Well, I mean met and got engaged to this person in the last couple of years. How long ago was your divorce?
Speaker 1:Mine.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Five years ago.
Speaker 2:No, that can't be right 2018 it might have got final in 19, six years ago. Six years, yeah, I I just, I mean, I'm just, I feel like that's not all that long to go through divorce, basically start all over, meet someone else and then get engaged to that person, you know. So that's a big life change, so you know to be fair, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 1:Now I'm looking at that going like, oh, maybe I jumped up a bunch of levels in in that amount of time, you know, because think about, like I went from being homeless essentially to living in a hotel, to having a pretty run-down apartment, to, I mean, that's just my living I was. I mean, at one point I was living in my mitsubishi, so I mean there was, there was that and uh, you know, met, uh, met the queen consort, slash betrothed and like I don't know man. She literally changed my life like a lot and I'm not talking about anything like material, I don't give two craps about that shit. But yeah, meeting her was probably one of my biggest life changes and probably excelled since then.
Speaker 3:Everything happens when it's supposed to.
Speaker 2:And in a way, don't you feel? I guess this is for either of you.
Speaker 3:I guess this is for either of you, don't you feel like as painful and rough as that divorce was, it changed you for the better.
Speaker 3:So what happens is this when you're not making the changes you're supposed to be making on your own, the universe steps in and will have something happen to cause that change.
Speaker 3:You know, if you're supposed to be moving out to the West Coast because you have a job offer out there and the reality is you're going to meet the love of your life and have six kids and, you know, become the CEO of some corporation, who knows? But you're not going because you're in fear of leaving your friends behind, leaving your family behind. The universe is going to step in. Maybe it's going to burn your house down, maybe it's going to have you get fired from where you're at. Something's going to happen so that you end up on the path you're supposed to be on, and it might be tragic and traumatic while you're going through it, but hindsight's a wonderful thing and you'll always see that something good comes out of something that you seem to be feeling negativity about at the time and see like I question it because I'm like really my the universe says I'm supposed to be in minnesota.
Speaker 3:Really how I long for but where did you meet her Minnesota? Wow you're always where you're supposed to be at any given time that is.
Speaker 2:Wow, have you? I don't think I even know that. Um, how did if you wanted how? I don't think I even know how did if you wanted how much? I don't know how much you want to disclose, but how did you meet your betrothed?
Speaker 1:So many different stories to this.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm looking for the one that happened. It shouldn't be this hard to come up with, Like if you don't remember, we're in trouble, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, I remember it, just it sounds bad. Um, I stalked her endlessly. Uh no, I don't. She's not even real guys. I mean, we just talk about nothing. Um, it was a meat cute, is that how they say it? Now, the weird meat, what the meat cutes or whatever cutes what, yeah, not like meat, like eating meat, like meat, like you met somebody like right and they call it a meat. Cute, I don't know. June, you're gonna help me out here. Do you know they call it a meet cute.
Speaker 3:I don't know. June, are you going to help me out here? Do you know what a meet?
Speaker 1:cute is? I don't remember that term. Was it a dating site? I don't know what that is. No, it wasn't a dating site, it was a meet cute. Aw, they met and it's cute.
Speaker 3:That kind of thing. Did you run over her Quit glossing over the details. Did she run over you Right? Did she pour coffee on you?
Speaker 1:No, it was more like chicken strips. Yeah, so I was at one point in my life I was managing a Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Speaker 3:And she worked in the fast food restaurant.
Speaker 2:I did yeah Waiting for the cute part she got food.
Speaker 1:I'm like, hey, what's up? She kept getting food, yeah.
Speaker 3:She doesn't like chicken. What?
Speaker 2:Are you serious?
Speaker 1:Yeah, she loves chicken, by the way, which kind of takes me. I don't know if that means anything. Now Are you confused?
Speaker 3:Was she there for the chicken or you?
Speaker 1:It's probably the chicken, to be fair. Everything's been a lie. I'm living a lie.
Speaker 2:Think about it, think about it, think about it. If she either didn't have an interest in chicken and preferred burgers or tacos, yeah, sure, like if you were in or if you were at a different restaurant yeah, that wouldn't have happened yeah yeah, it happens the way it's supposed to.
Speaker 3:It's always crazy. My uh first husband, I was working in a chinese restaurant and he was having dinner with his girlfriend that I thought was his mother and I was going to give him my phone number. My sister's like don't do it, that's his girlfriend. I'm like no way. And I happen to have been working at another place uh, a donut shop and the next day I'm working in the donut shop and he pulls up in his truck because he wanted. He noticed somebody else's tractor, trailer truck there that he wanted to see and came in and, lo and behold, here I am wow it's supposed to okay, well, dubs
Speaker 1:yeah she had a story of meeting somebody that where's yours so, uh, mine is.
Speaker 2:We met in high school band. Um, I was, and I guess this could be why, uh, it worked out because of I played saxophone, she played flute, which meant we were on opposite ends of the room and, could, you know, exchange glances during practice. Now, and the thing is so here's why, back a while ago, I brought up the divorce thing is because we actually did break up. We dated other people and then got back together. So I, in a similar way. It wasn't a divorce, but it was a breakup and I do feel like, as painful as that was, it was also necessary. We both went on, went our separate ways and became different people and met each other again and got back together again. I feel like if we had just stayed together that whole time, we would not be the people we are today, because we needed to independently change.
Speaker 3:So that happens more than you know.
Speaker 1:Wow Okay, that happens more than you know. Wow Okay, so I want to get into something. One more thing. And then we got to do something. We got to get some scary stuff to happen.
Speaker 2:This went way, not paranormal.
Speaker 1:People are going to be crying. This is the best show ever. I learned so much.
Speaker 2:I love Kentucky.
Speaker 1:I'm very excited about my marriage, but anyway. So you're an author. How many books have you written?
Speaker 3:I've written four right now.
Speaker 1:Wow, really.
Speaker 3:This is great.
Speaker 1:Are they all about the same?
Speaker 3:This is my bestseller. I don't know what's fair international love and karma all's fair and love and karma.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh nice and that was the one based on the relationship program, yep. So what are the others then?
Speaker 3:um a night on the other side is, um, the first book I wrote and it's everything that I used to teach in psychic development and mediumship development classes. So if anybody wants to work on their skills, they can get that one. And then Dancing with the Universe was my autobiography that I wrote, and the Destiny Card Journal was the latest one that I just did, and that's actually a journal that you can put your intentions in, that you want the universe to help work with you on new moons, and it tells a little bit about the Destiny Cards, which is numerology and astrology combined. It's a very interesting system. Very few people read them. It's your regular deck of playing cards which our Gregorian calendar is based on. It's very interesting, but that's another whole show.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know. I was going to say we could probably get into it, but then again people have got to go to bed. Get up early in the morning.
Speaker 3:I'm hitting the plane in the morning.
Speaker 1:See, yeah, there you go. There's that All right. So, like I said, we had to get into something spooky before we finished this up. So I need to know what's the scariest thing that's happened to you. Scariest thing that's happened to you whether it's been as a relationship coach, whether it's been as a psychic medium, paranormal investigator what's the scariest thing like and how did you?
Speaker 3:react. I used to own a bar and um, it was haunted. I'd owned the building for many years and when I renovated it into a sports bar, there was um full-fledged entity with a leather jacket that the staff used to see come in the front door and walk around and then disappear before they hit the kitchen and there's no other way out. Um ended up. It was a cook that used to work there when it was a restaurant before um, but I, in agreement with him, he was able to stay because he wasn't dangerous and he didn't refuse to go into the light and he was keeping an eye on the place for me.
Speaker 3:But I used to put holy water, dishes of holy water, at the front and back door, the two entrances, so that no one that had any evil, you know, anybody that had demonic energy, any of that couldn't come in.
Speaker 3:They can't bypass the holy water and one night my bartender saw an orb fly through and she was very sensitive. So she took her camera out and started taking pictures and I have the picture on my cell phone. She had taken a picture across the bar and you can see the high tops, you can see the mailbox out the door and then you can pick out about 14 faces looking in the window that want to come in. There's no bodies below, just all the faces. Some of them look like skeletons, one of them looks long hair, looks like Jesus, but they could not come in because of the holy water. But they all wanted to come in because there's live music, there's alcohol, it's everything that's there. When they were alive, these were ghosts basically that were outside into the parking lot and uh, yeah, that was pretty freaky. Really freaked everybody out to actually see a picture of them like that that's creepy.
Speaker 1:How about, like, have you being a medium and everything, and I know you discussed like you're? You're walking into walmart and a guy like you know trips on in, you know whatever. But have you ever been just in public and a ghost other than that guy a? Uh, a ghost, a spirit or whatever realizes that you can see them and they come at you?
Speaker 3:and no, but I did have when I was first training, when I I wasn't even training yet um, I had gone to a spiritualist church because I didn't know how to stop this. I didn't know how to turn it off. Okay, and I was, it was everywhere and I went on. I went to Boston to see this woman who was speaking at the spiritualist church and she was a medium. So, you know, I sit down and she's like well, what you can do? And I'm like I don't know how to do it, it just happens. I don't know what I'm doing right. So she's like um, well, bring some, you know, bring my parents through, or whatever. So I brought people through, but the doorbell kept ringing and she's like ignore that, she goes.
Speaker 3:There's a witch that used to live on the property and she's banned from the property so she can't come in. I said, yeah, I can see her. She's standing on the side of the property right now and she's banging on pans and she's saying get out, get out, get out. So when I left, I'm driving down the expressway right 128 in Boston, it's worse than 95, it's like crazy. And all of a sudden I, all of a sudden she was just there in my passenger side seat this old hag and I just screamed and I pulled off to the side. All my papers in my seat went flying. I pulled off the side where I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. I gotta tell you I just did not expect that.
Speaker 1:That would creep me Like. I always worry about that, you know they do?
Speaker 3:They jump in your car because they can't get any faster, they can't get around than a human being because they have not gone into the light. So they'll get in your car at a stoplight and drive to the next one to hit your ride. So I tell everybody, have some religious. I have a rosary from Jerusalem hanging from my rear view mirror Always. You know, everybody should wear. This is a Kundalini symbol, which is a religious symbol. It's a medical alert. But I tell everybody's something that they're going to see, because when you go out to a restaurant or a bar, the ones that are looking for a body guess what? If you don't have anything on, you may take them home as an attachment yeah I've seen a lot of that
Speaker 1:that creeps me out, you know, okay, like d, that usually now, if I'm on the road, dw's with me, which it makes me like if they're haunting me, they're going to be haunting you, so that makes me feel better. But, um, you know, like, I always think about that, like when I am alone, or whatever, driving home from a gig, and it's like, you know, whatever I like, look, I always look in the rear view mirror, you know, and I, you know, whatever I'm like, look, I always look in the rearview mirror, you know, and I'm like, oh, okay, because I feel like, oh, my god, there's somebody with me.
Speaker 3:it feels so weird. Sometimes it very well could be, you're just not seeing them ah so, remember, your eyes can only see because of the shape of your eye and what the light is refracting off of. This is why dogs can see more than we can, and they don't. They see in black and white. There's people that don't see color, they only see black and white. This is why a camera can pick up things that your eyes can't okay, um I'm colorblind, by the way, not black and white colorblind, but I, your eyes are different than other people's, so you may be able to pick up, like I can see that what other people don't see.
Speaker 3:A lot of that has to do with not having the fear, but between that and the shape of your eye you may be able to see entities that other people can't see. But you should always wear protection, have protection in your car. I tell everybody, even in your house have something religious in every room of your house, because they'll wander in off the street and if they come in and house, have something religious in every room of your house, because they'll wander in off the street and if they come in and they see something, they'll go somewhere else because they're not, they don't want the fight, literally. Um, I have a lot of people that live in condos that were made from like old factory buildings. They're extremely haunted from the amount of people that died in there and you can't get rid of them because there's no way of saging and protecting that whole building and then just wander from place to place through them. It's horrendous.
Speaker 1:Actually, that sounds freaking amazing, though I'm just saying like, wow, they just okay, freaking amazing. Though I'm just saying like, wow, they just okay, they can attach, they just go wherever they want, attached to whoever they want, whenever they want. So let me ask you a question. I've been saying this forever there's I have sporadic paranormal activity in my house. Okay, it's sporadic, it it's not all the time, like you just said, which I've had a theory anyway, considering the fact that we have these high powered power lines next to us or whatever. I've had the series that like whatever is here, whatever is just passing through, just like going whatever.
Speaker 3:It could be different things. It could be, you know, it could be a relative that's trying to get your attention, or a friend that's past that's trying to get your attention. Um, it could be that you're just not paying attention, that's there more often than you think. Or it could be something that's either attached to the house or the land.
Speaker 1:It could be many things, many things it's never been weird, other than you know weird things or whatever here and stuff and footsteps or whatever, but it's never been anything other than than that.
Speaker 3:I mean so far my advice is just to ignore it, because if you give it energy it makes it stronger. Because if not someone just coming to visit and actually has an evil intent, then it wants attention. So the more energy you give it, the stronger it grows. So ignore it, that's my advice.
Speaker 1:I feel it's a lot easier to ignore me than it would be for me to ignore it. I'm just saying All right, june. Well, I mean, I don't know. This has been just incredible Relationship advice, psychic medium. You get scary stuff in there. You're a paranormal investigator for, basically, the Warrens.
Speaker 3:It was Tony, though, though right tony's group yeah, tony's the one that's running the, the warrens museum and things he has been for years man, you just have a lot of badass stuff and I I dig it.
Speaker 1:It's cool. One thing we do is let you tell the people where they can find you. So if they wanted to purchase books or get ahold of you or do that, I'm supposed to say five-step program, but that's. But, yeah, you can go to my website.
Speaker 3:My website is my name June Edward no S juneedwardcom website. My website is my name june edward no s juneedwardcom. Um. There are links to all my books. There are probably 30 interviews and videos you can watch if you'd like. I have a blog. I haven't put anything on the blog in a while, but there's some really interesting, scary stuff on the blog, um, and you can. You can contact me through there. You can book an appointment with me if you'd like. I do astrology, numerologyology, the destiny cards, angel cards. If you want to talk to somebody from the other side, that's past, or you just want information about your own life and what's going on and what's coming up, I can pretty much help you in any area that you have.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, dw, you're going to call her my, my relationship's fine.
Speaker 2:I don't know about yours, so, no, maybe we should have her. Oh, have her work on ours. I think she'd say we need a divorce, so we don't need a psychic to tell us that it's funny.
Speaker 1:I couldn't even get it out. I was thinking it as I was, like I was okay, yeah, I just started laughing.
Speaker 2:Indicator number one the person says they're not a couple. That's a good sign that they shouldn't be a couple.
Speaker 1:Maybe, I don't know All right, well, we've come to the time of our episode that we do the fun little thingamabob called this or that. Basically, what we do is ask you a question and you have two options and you just do it. So you ready for this or that? Sure, all right, cool dw. Yeah, do you have a this or that this week?
Speaker 2:My absence threw things off. Is it my turn it?
Speaker 1:did because your absence. I did one, then I think he did one, so then I think you did. No, I did the last one with me and you. I'm pretty sure I don't know it's completely the only thing here. One thing you could do it? I'll't know. It's completely the only thing here. One thing you could do it. I'll sit back. I won't say nothing whatever. But I have a this or that, no two this or that questions for you Never before heard. They're specifically for you.
Speaker 2:So go ahead Do you want to start with that.
Speaker 1:No, we'll end with that. I think it would be better if we end with it.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right. Okay, so June, would you rather fly or drive?
Speaker 3:Depends on where I'm going, but if it's a far distance I'd rather fly.
Speaker 2:Okay, if you're flying, do you want the window or the aisle seat?
Speaker 3:Kind of depends on the time of day. If it's not nighttime that I want to sleep, then I'll probably have to use the bathroom, so I'll take the aisle.
Speaker 2:Okay, clue or Monopoly.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's tough. I'd probably try to play them both at the same time.
Speaker 2:All right, would you rather have the chicken pox or poison ivy?
Speaker 3:chicken pox. I've had them before. They're not the biggest deal in the world. Poison ivy seems to go on forever yeah, okay, you perfected your time machine.
Speaker 2:Do you want to go to 1825.
Speaker 3:I already know what it's like.
Speaker 2:Alright. Does the toilet paper go over the roll or under?
Speaker 3:You know it goes under because if you put it over and an animal goes near it, the whole roll will end up on the floor.
Speaker 2:Someone with a cat in their house. Okay, an elephant-sized squirrel or a squirrel-sized elephant.
Speaker 3:A squirrel-sized elephant. Elephants are amazing creatures.
Speaker 2:They are Okay. Okay, mozart or Zeppelin.
Speaker 3:Mozart.
Speaker 2:What Okay, I understand.
Speaker 1:No, I'm sorry, mozart what? Okay, I'm sorry it was delayed. I understand Mozart's badass, but over, is that okay? Alright, it's your, it's her.
Speaker 2:You don't argue with you know. That's the point.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, you just took me off guard A couple more for me Dogs or cats.
Speaker 3:Dogs.
Speaker 2:Okay, john Olsen or Ted Bundy.
Speaker 3:Ted Bundy Really.
Speaker 2:Is that who you're picking? Thank you All right. So is that your choice?
Speaker 3:We'll go with John Olsen.
Speaker 2:You just this close got by. I, I, yeah, I know, I understand I.
Speaker 1:I know that I can be a lady killer, but not that kind of lady killer.
Speaker 2:So it's hard. It's hard to come up with a new worst person you can possibly think of, but it's amazing how close. He either barely wins or like he has lost a few times.
Speaker 1:I have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, With what should be an obvious answer. People have to think about it way too much.
Speaker 3:Well, you don't have the shirt on, so All right.
Speaker 2:John, that's my closer. What were your questions.
Speaker 1:All right, dw, specifically for you, is this me?
Speaker 2:or you're asking June.
Speaker 1:Specifically for you. I mean and June can answer too, but these are specifically for you.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:The Office or the Simpsons.
Speaker 2:The Office.
Speaker 3:I'll take the Simpsons.
Speaker 2:I mean the Simpsons were good, but I feel like the I don't know. I just feel like ever since season 10 it's been a steady decline I think it's generational you're younger than I am. My kids like the office better it's partly that, but I feel like there's something about ending at the right time and I feel like the simpsons is they still on they're still on oh my god really exactly right.
Speaker 3:So 36 years, oh, it's more than that, it's no 80, okay, 89 on fox wow that's where I really don't watch tv that much, so I had no idea yeah, it's, they debuted on fox in 89, so that's what?
Speaker 1:36 years right yeah, it's is that right? Yeah, so, but they were on the tracy ullman show since 87, 86, 87, somewhere around there. But yeah, long, long time, all right.
Speaker 2:Anyway.
Speaker 1:I was shocked Again. Color me shocked today. So DW picked the Office over the Simpsons. All right, here we go the Office or Seinfeld.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh, oh gosh, between those, I I'm gonna go with seinfeld. Oh, come on, and again, and went out on top exactly he was smart. Some people. I feel like the office went on a little bit too long, I do I. I'm sorry, I did not like um robert california.
Speaker 1:I didn't think he was if I agree with you, 100 right. If the office would have ended season eight at the end of season eight when Robert California left, I think it would have been fine.
Speaker 2:I think, let me put it this way If the office ended when Michael left, I don't know what I would pick. Seinfeld ended when it was on top and no one's going to argue with that Office. Plenty of people feel like the later seasons were not as good as the early ones.
Speaker 1:But it did exactly what it was supposed to do. It went from Michael's show to Dwight's show supposed to.
Speaker 2:It went from michael's show to dwight's show. It did but, point being, it's debatable when the office should have ended. No one will argue that seinfeld ended when it was on the top true, all right, did you answer?
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, or seinfeld, seinfeld, absolutely seinfeld.
Speaker 3:Seinfeld, seinfeld, absolutely Seinfeld.
Speaker 1:We went on a long. That was a long answer, but it took you a while to pick DW Because I mean because between Seinfeld and the Office there was nothing.
Speaker 2:But when the Office came around it was like this is my new favorite show and I don't think I've been excited about a show this much since Seinfeld. So the Office is a close second. I do like it. And the thing is it's kind of, in a way it's kind of apples and oranges, because it's a very different style. Right, seinffeld was scripted. I mean, the office was scripted too, but it was much more of an impro improvised feel, it seemed yeah you know it's a mockumentary.
Speaker 2:There's no laugh track, you know. So both comedies but very different style of comedies. So I mean, I definitely appreciate the Office, but I think nothing for me will beat Seinfeld. And since the Office, nothing.
Speaker 3:Parks and Rec is parks and rec is good.
Speaker 2:Um uh, big bang theory was good, but still not quite as good as the office.
Speaker 3:And now, I'm gonna let you keep debating this and I'm gonna call it a night because let's stop here before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're not, we're not gonna so jude. I just want to say I apologize for that. Um, we just that's okay. I just I've got a very early flight to go I understand all right, so I just want to say thank you very much for coming on. It was a pleasure. I really appreciate it. You had some wonderful, wonderful insight in everything and I.
Speaker 3:I loved it Great to meet you guys.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 3:All right, yes.
Speaker 1:You guys Thank you All right. Well, you know, it means that you guys have been amazing, we have been scolarius and we are out Later.