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Ep. 75 Can Your Dog Talk to a Psychic?: Natalie Lucia
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Ever wonder what your pet is really thinking? In this captivating episode, we welcome back psychic medium Natalie Lucia who takes us deep into the mysterious world of animal communication, demonstrating her remarkable ability to connect with our furry companions—both living and those who have crossed the rainbow bridge.
The session begins with Natalie reading Posey, one of the Hell Hounds of Surine Manor. With startling accuracy, she identifies Posey's cautious personality, her dislike of chaos, and even dental health concerns previously noted by our veterinarian. "I don't like to be around a lot of chaos," Natalie shares from Posey's perspective, capturing her essence perfectly. When questioned about how this communication works, Natalie explains it's not as simple as dogs speaking English—rather, it's a complex form of telepathy requiring rapid interpretation of impressions, feelings, and images.
The conversation takes a poignant turn when Natalie connects with Pumpkin, a departed family pet. Through this touching exchange, she reveals specific details about Pumpkin's passing, the difficult decision to put her down, and the profound grief experienced by the family—particularly how this represented a young child's first encounter with loss. Each revelation builds upon the last, creating an undeniable tapestry of evidence that leaves even our most skeptical co-host questioning his assumptions.
Beyond the readings, Natalie shares fascinating insights into the mechanics of her gift. She describes the "trifecta" necessary for successful readings—the cooperation between psychic, animal, and human—and explains why grief, skepticism, or excessive eagerness can disrupt this delicate balance. We also explore the ethical boundaries she maintains, including why she refuses certain types of readings and maintains an intentionally high "emergency reading" fee.
Whether you're a devoted pet parent, curious about the paranormal, or simply enjoy compelling storytelling, this episode offers a fresh perspective on the bonds we share with our animal companions and the possibility that communication transcends the physical realm. Tune in to discover what your pets might be trying to tell you—the answers might surprise you.
Thanks for watching what's going on. This is hilarious. I am john olsen and with me, as always, is dw, the dilated wormhole serene I have, by the way.
Speaker 2:So I I stopped by the liquor store today and picked up another case of cider boys. This is the one, um, this is the one in in stevens point, wisconsin, and this is like my favorite of all the hard ciders and bonus. I'm pretty sure that this one that I got is a different like flavors than the last one, so this will be new. So this is peach county peach county, that's what it says no there's no r that's county. That's pretty good yeah there's a mango one in this pack that I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 1:All right so, since I can do the pop and for some reason you can't you ready oh, you've got something.
Speaker 2:Oh, all right, what is diet coke? What was it? It is diet coke, diet coke. Okay, because and hey, I I'm not, I'm not making fun of you for, uh, not doing your, your thc or whatever, because it's probably that in part, that's led to a weight loss and quite a bit of weight loss awesome, so a lot of weight loss for now.
Speaker 1:For now, let's see, I always hit I am almost, almost to my plateau weight and every time I've ever been there like I mean, every time I've been there since 2018 um, I get injured, something like I was there, and then like my shoulder, like something messed up there, and then they had to put me on steroids, and steroids lead to eating and popped right back up. Then the last time it was my leg, like my hip and leg, and again steroids, steroids, you know whatever. So right now I've been very, very, very digital, like with water, so a lot of water, and because of that, my muscles aren't tightening and stuff like they did prior.
Speaker 1:so I just I keep. I mean, it's you can, you can see, nobody else can see, but I, I have a liter of water here too, so I'm to have a can of soda and then a water, so but yeah, that's kind of the thing and it is working and helping and all that junk. I don't know if we went over this or not. My blood pressure went down like a lot.
Speaker 1:I haven't had my lipids done yet, but I'm assuming, based on how I feel, they're doing really well. I don't know uh and um. One more thing I know dw might be able to see it and our guest here might be able to see it, but I got this big old gash right there in my head what the heck did you do?
Speaker 1:I hit my head on my um, on my the back hatch of my car, like it's oh. I hit my head on the top and it was kind of funny, it's like kadunk. And I was like ah, owie. And then, you know, I was kind of doing what I was doing and my daughter's like dad, you're bleeding. And I was like I'm like oh, okay. And then, yeah, I was bleeding. I looked like I just got out of a match with mcfoley, like I, my whole face was just like I was wearing a crimson mask. Yeah, it was just, it was, it was all blood. It was crazy. Wow, yeah, just for a little bit it's.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's a, it's a good gash, but I mean well, it and since you said yeah, since you have no hair, it you know, you can see it pretty clearly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I mean there's that. What's been going on with you, dw? I told about my weight loss and my injuries.
Speaker 2:I mean I haven't cut off any of my fingers lately. Okay, I've been doing all right. Usually when I have sharp objects, I keep my digits away from it, Fair enough.
Speaker 1:I try to as well. Sometimes it doesn't happen that way. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, I haven't been to do my yearly physical lately. Last time, actually, my cholesterol went up like I have I.
Speaker 1:I have the hereditary high cholesterol like I'm not like two fist donuts and shit too, so I mean, that doesn't help.
Speaker 2:But it's like I've been. I'm pretty sure we've gone over this. I've had high cholesterol since, like they first tested my cholesterol like way back when I was a kid, so it's always been high um, and last time I was really optimistic that I so I started taking um fish oil, which is supposed to help with uh cholesterol, and it apparently did not. So I'm a little. I was a little disappointed about that, but I'm curious to see if this time around it'll be any better. I haven't gone in a while but I probably should pretty soon here. You know what's really crazy that some people go to the doctor more than once every 10 years. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:We discussed it. Remember when it was, it was 2005,. Dw.
Speaker 2:Well, no, actually, actually, if you're counting the urgent care, or did you go the ER, was it ER urgent care that you went?
Speaker 1:to oh with my finger. Yeah, oh, I wasn't gonna go to the ER, I went to just uh urgent care and got to take care of so you saw?
Speaker 2:I mean, you saw a doctor there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then I don't know if that counts. As you know, she told me I didn't need to be there, so well, she didn't take your blood work so find enough to just take care of yourself in any way, shape or form. So you could just do that and don't worry about anything. I can start building myself, which would be fun, yeah, so actually.
Speaker 2:So I had a question, okay, um, kind of medical related, because when you had your uh, I don't know what you want to call it, you're basically near death experience, not near death death, death death experience. Yes, so you don't have to tell me a number, but I have had to do an ambulance ride and those are expensive right was airlifted like crazy expensive yeah, I, I don't, I, I okay.
Speaker 1:So hold on just one second. We're gonna put this on pause for just one second. Pw, you standing there just right now. I'm going to put you on something. Everybody, just you know, do what you do. I don't know what you're doing. If you're driving, if you're working, whatever, just continue doing this. I have to go get something just real quick. It's going to be 30 seconds, I promise. Ready, let's go.
Speaker 2:All right For our listeners at home. John didn't go to the bathroom before the show, and so now he's running, Hopefully. Oh shoot, he didn't mute his mic, so if you hear a toilet flush in the background, that's because John is not good at playing ahead. So, and we'll see how long 30 seconds is in his world. Oh, that was actually pretty good.
Speaker 1:Alright, guys, false alarm. I couldn't get to it. It's too far back and I didn't want to make a mess and hear whatever. But what I was going to go get was what I call my $100,000 mug. Okay, it is what they gave me the water mug. My $100,000 mug and I put alcohol in there, um all the good stuff. I was gonna go grab it, so so you show.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I have something similar and I called a pregnancy mug because it was when our daughter was born and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's what I was gonna go get the hundred thousand dollar mug. He asked me what the cost was. I don't know, but I know that all together with all the days in ICU, all the rides Because I had an ambulance ride and a helicopter ride- that's true.
Speaker 2:An ambulance ride to the one hospital saying you need to go over here, and they airlifted you there.
Speaker 1:And then all that stuff. So, yeah, it's well over $100,000. Wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:but anyway, so um, almost be cheaper to buy a helicopter at that point. But I mean you couldn't fly it.
Speaker 1:So no, I couldn't, I would be worse than okay. Yeah, no, it wouldn't be good.
Speaker 2:Let's just say, um, yeah, and I don't know, I feel like I've never bought a black market helicopter so I don't know. I've never bought a black market helicopter so I don't know how much they really are. It might be a couple bucks, dw.
Speaker 1:I feel like our listeners would be really excited about this, so I have to do this. Okay, when you're hearing this, you could go to crowdmadecom forward slash collections, forward slash, forward, slash, forward, slash collections, forward slash, forward, slash, forward, slash ScolariusPod, and you can get a Kripers t-shirt. That's right, kripers. It's not what DW says, but it's what I say. Dw says, and I feel everybody would love this oak riper's t-shirt, so it'll be there with our scolarius logo and I'll just say oak riper's. Nobody will know what the hell it means, but it doesn't matter. I think it's hilarious. Both myself and my queen consort have been saying cripers over and over and over again, have adopted it, even though DW does not say it. Yep, we say he does and we consistently use it. What does DW say? Well, he does say here's the thing. And you can get that t-shirt at crowdmadecom forward slash collections, forward slash Scololarius pod did it right that time. And not only that. You can get my t-shirt, which is I have no idea who john olsen is, which apparently is it. People are buying that, which is fun. I like that, that's good. And then also also, if you wanted to, you can get the t-shirt that says you know, like like, I'm not trying to offend you, but I don't care if I do that one, that one's a whole lot of fun.
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Speaker 1:You can do that at sclairespod, at gmailcom, and if you want to, if you want to, you could go back and listen to every single episode that we have at buzzsproutsclariouspodcom. I cannot do this today. It's sclariouspodbuzzsproutcom and you know, when you're there you might want to, you might want to kind of go back and listen to a few episodes, one of them being, I don't know, episode 38, you know, and why, why am I bringing up episode?
Speaker 2:38 was the the first time we talked with our guest from today and, um, we'll just leave it at that because we got more to get into, but first we should bring her on and then we'll talk about, uh, everything else you go back, listen to episode 38, sex, chocolate and dogs, which is forgot.
Speaker 1:We called it that anyways. So without further ado, please welcome back to our show the psychic medium and also very fun pet psychic right, natalie. Lucia. Natalie, how are you?
Speaker 3:I'm good, are you? Thank you for having me back.
Speaker 1:You're welcome. Dw is excited. I don't know if you can see he's bouncing all over his chair and everything. He's been excited. We talked about your episode numerous times because it's the only time that he's ever been just absolutely yeah, he was stunned, he was like she got me and yeah, whatever. So he's been trying to debunk it for I don't know six months now and and every time he's like we gotta get her back on, we gotta get her back on the creepers, we gotta get her back on and I was like minus the creepers.
Speaker 2:yes, that's true, and the and part of the reason is, last time we talked about Clover, the other dog, and which was you were dead right, but I said, okay, if she can do that again with our other dog, that would be even more impressive.
Speaker 1:The other dog is Dingleberry, so the other dog.
Speaker 2:So last time was clover, um, and, by the way, she is. When we say hellhounds of serene manor, that's who we're talking about. That's clover, because she's nuts. Um, now I don't want to say too much because I'm going to leave it up to you. I'll leave it at. This is posy. Posy is our other dog. They are not related at all. Posy is a uh, chawini mostly. She's several different breeds, but mostly chumini, um, and again, not related other than by uh, adoption. So I'm gonna leave it at that. I'm gonna. I want to make sure you can see her. Um, oh, yeah, there you go here up here, puppy. And here's the other advantage to doing john, to doing these by zoom now she can see a posy in real time as opposed to. I was just sitting with Clover last time, right? So here's Posey, and also so we have. Before Clover and Posey, we had a different dog, but we'll get to that one in a moment, but first here's posy. So, uh, what can you tell me about posy?
Speaker 3:just right off the bat, right off the bat. Yes, just so you know, I'm going to take a picture of posy, okay, sure, and, and I just want to explain why because the eyes are the gateway to the soul. So if you see me looking to my left, um, perfect, okay. So if you see me looking to my left, I just have a photo just for the gate, the eyes, that's fine yep so posy can kind of relax and yeah do that.
Speaker 3:you know, posey do her thing. So I want to say this first. I want to just start off with this when I feel into posing, when I feel into personality, I feel like I like to do my own thing, I like to be my own thing. I don't like to be around a lot of chaos, just don't like that.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:When you were sitting and you guys were talking and discussing your stuff, I was, you know, started starting to kind of energetically blend a little bit like hey, listen, I'm here, I want to blend, I just want you to get used to me. And I got a like who are you, lady? That's what I got. Like who are you? So I know that we're not quick to trust everyone and I know that when I feel this not quick to trust everyone is because I could also read people very clearly and very carefully, so I know who cannot be trusted and who needs time. I'm not saying Posey's not trusting me, I'm just saying that I need time to trust. And I feel like this also comes from when I was and I want to use the word rescued, because I feel like I was chosen, I was found and I feel like I wasn't like given. So I feel like you know how, how Posey came into the family was more of a not expected. Can you understand this?
Speaker 2:Um, yes and no. I because I know well, and yeah, okay, yeah, um, those at home can't see her licking my face right now. Um, and, and the reason I answer it like that is because, um, the, the way we got her was very deliberate. But let me just stop you first.
Speaker 3:I can't, I'm sorry we need to cut you off, but I'm gonna be cutting you off during this time no, that's fine you might go to say something and I just want to stop you, but I feel like she was not the specific one that was deliberate though, because she makes me feel like she was not the specific one that was deliberate though, because she makes me feel like there was either another choice or other choices that were within her. So it sounds really weird not literally within her, but I just feel she just makes me feel like and tell me no if it's no, because I'm going to go deeper with her. I'm not shy of no's, but she just makes me feel like she wasn't the expected one.
Speaker 2:I want to be careful to say yeah, you're completely right, but that here's what happened she was. She was adopted during the pandemic pandemic, during the like peak of the pandemic, and she was actually like the third or fourth dog that we tried to adopt and because during the pandemic, if anyone had anyone tried to adopt dogs, especially smaller dogs, it was insane. So, yes, we tried to adopt other dogs before we we got her.
Speaker 1:So that's what she said. She's, I mean bottom line. You're saying yes and no. No, that was a yes.
Speaker 2:Well, because when, at first, when you were talking about rescue, I thought that because some people think, in terms of dogs, is it the humane society rescued them and then we just adopted them or we rescued this person or rescued this dog from the street, I just feel like when some people say they have a rescue dog, it's not necessarily that they found the dog sick and in the, the wet in the lake and they rescued it. It's that someone else rescued them and they just went to the shelter to adopt them.
Speaker 3:So I'm going to take that little piece for people who are listening. Okay, know that when you go to a shelter or when you go to a rescue and adopt, you're saving a life.
Speaker 2:You are, and I don't want to devalue that at all, because, especially in a lot of these places, if they don't get adopted, sometimes they put them down.
Speaker 3:There's very few no-kill shelters Actually there's no such thing as a no-kill shelter, and this is why Not to get off on a tangent, but this is why, when no-kill shelters say they're no-kill, you ask them this question If you have an animal that's elderly and suffering, what are you going to do? If you have an animal that's dangerous and has, let's say, a mental health issue that's violent, what are you going to do? So there's actually no such thing as no kill what they mean is no kill?
Speaker 3:think I don't know, but correct me if I'm wrong. I just heard from Posey like I'm allowed a lot to handle, so I don't know if I am so, if I'm a little bit much to handle, just let me know the way I explain things. I'm a little bit much to handle, just let me know the way I explain things. I want to go back back to what Posey was saying as well, also because there's this piece of me that also feels like going back to the rescue, going back to you're just going to hear noise in a second. It's just take her up. My, my, my kitten is getting fixed tomorrow. So at nine o'clock I've been fixed.
Speaker 1:Guess what time it is right now my house is nine o'clock you've been fixed, but for different reasons, john mine wasn't because I couldn't stop peeing or whatever.
Speaker 2:I wasn't marking my territory everywhere it was it stopped marking no, it's because the doctor said we don't need more of these.
Speaker 3:So let's make sure.
Speaker 3:So so I'm sorry. I just did the reading. I knew nine o'clock was the time and I heard the door open, because it's exactly nine o'clock, okay. So, going back to Posey, I also feel like there's this piece of. I have this. How do I explain this? Posey makes me feel like I'm having this connection where I know when someone doesn't feel well or is sad, and then I want to go to the heart center. So who in the home is either grieving or has dealt with grief from the point of when Posey came into the home. So I think there was loss or something in the family. Where Posey comes in and kind of leans on the heart is what I'm seeing that lean on the heart for the loss that there's been.
Speaker 2:All right. So I'm going to I forgive me for testing you so much, because a lot of times you've been getting it close and I don't want to like, say like I don't want to have you say, posey seems like a nice dog, and then I go off on oh yes, you're right, because here's why. So I'm, I want, you are loss. You are very close I'm, but I'm curious as if you can figure out exactly what.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:And I don't want to say much more than that, because I just, I just feel like if I tell you anything else, I'm going to give it away instantly.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. And what I want you to say is yes, I could understand this. No, I cannot. Or maybe because it maybe is like, maybe I don't know. You know, like natalie's, your favorite color? Purple, maybe, right right right so so you could answer with that also, only because and people who are listening, I want to explain this. Unfortunately it's not dial a dead person. I wish it was where I could like, oh my god jim is here and he's like coming in and posy saying, hey jim, why are you here? Like that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:I wish it was that way.
Speaker 3:But let me just go back to Posey for a second, because I want to talk about the loss. And then Posey brings me to the heart center. So I don't know if I'm coming to the heart center because this individual had passed connected to the heart chest area, or Posey showing me the grief that the family has experienced, Because when I feel this I also feel like the glue of the family. So I feel like this would have been someone who was a generation above the family. So I don't feel like this is a contemporary to you Meaning. I don't feel like this is a brother or a cousin or something like that. I feel like this is either like a motherly or a fatherly figure.
Speaker 3:And I'm not tapping in me. I'm trying not to tap in medium muscly. I'm trying to get this from Posey, which is very different. But I have this feeling of parental love and care where there's like a void or a missing piece there, Even though I know they're still around me and I still feel this, I'm still missing them. So Posey's coming in to give that feeling of let me lean on this grief feeling of let me lean on this grief not to take it away, but to make it a little bit less.
Speaker 2:Can you understand how I'm feeling this from post okay and the things. Uh, I, I'm trying so hard not to say he's struggling, he wants to speak well, because the thing is, the more you elaborated on it, the more I worried.
Speaker 2:You're like not getting it, um, because are you talking about um? Gosh, how do I say this without giving it away? Because I feel, I feel like you may be right about there was a loss, um, but I'm trying to. I I don't want to say it without, but I, I feel like you're close is the thing, um, but I don't want to just say it was such and such.
Speaker 3:Don't say it was such and such. Don't say that For me. Don't say that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:Um, because I have to get. I'm getting it from Posey. So, for people who are listening, this is not a mediumship, reading. You know, I'm not connecting with the spirit world and bringing through evidence. And doing this I'm bringing through the evidence of what Posey sees, feels, hears. He sees, feels, hears and knows from what's around you. So that's what that piece is. I just want and I know I talk fast, I'm sorry I'm sorry you got that new yorker at talk I'm doing a reading here.
Speaker 3:It really is and I try, like you know, in training and everything like my, my mentor, she was from england and she was we might have to send you for like speech classes. I was like, oh my God, this is so bad. But I want to go back to Posey for a second, because Posey also gives me October as a very significant month. So when I get the month of October I would look into a birthday, an anniversary or a month of passing, because I know October is like being shined in my face is significant for you or someone close to you in the family. Can you understand October? I know I'm putting you through a magnifying glass.
Speaker 2:October. Well, and the thing is, the loss that I was thinking about was definitely not in October. I'm trying to think back, um, I'm trying to think back and, and actually, um, just just to to, uh, we, we did have a very significant loss recently, but it was, uh, gosh, just like a year ago or so, since we had gotten posy. We've had posy since we've had posy, gosh, what three years now, um, and this, this person, this first person that I'm talking about, was very recently. So posy has been here since then, um, but october, gosh I'm not thinking of anything in october.
Speaker 2:Um, I'm writing this down because the the the other thing is. By the way, after our last episode, I took all the stuff that you know we went over and I was like I went to my wife and was like, so get this, and um, she was, she was very, uh, uh, uh, pleasantly surprised too. So I'm gonna bring up up october, wait see you got.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking this is fun what's here's, what's uh.
Speaker 2:Um, can you tell me again why you thought october was significant?
Speaker 3:posy is giving me october as a significant month in the family. So when I'm giving you the information about the person who has passed and all that stuff that's being shared with me, posey said mention October because October is important as well also. Okay, so that's why I brought it up. And then I heard Posey say a name and I just have to say that when I say names I have to say sounds like, because the Claire audience is a little bit difficult to grasp at times, but it sounds like Kate or Catherine. So I know Kate or Catherine would be a significant name. Sounds like in the family. And I always say sounds like because people are like well, how about Jim? I'm like?
Speaker 3:no, I didn't say Jim, you know like that's not what I said you know, so I always say it, but I know Posey's giving me that name as well as being significant also, which could be a middle name as well. Also, I should say too and I want to go back to October because there's something significant.
Speaker 2:Well, and the thing is so, there is something significant in October, but it doesn't. It's not at all related to the loss that I was thinking of.
Speaker 3:And that's okay if it's not related. There's, that's okay. If it's not related, no, that's not related.
Speaker 2:There is something significant in october, but it's not sad or a loss or grieving or anything like that. It's actually a joyous thing.
Speaker 3:That's why I said great anniversary or month of passing. So that's why I said so. It's something that's significant, but it doesn't have to be something tragic right, okay um, and then posy shows me the number 18 is significant also, and I see a calendar as well also. So I know around now please listen to where the way I'm saying this around the 18th of a month, there would be another celebration, and I always laugh at this because people are like how do you forget my birthday, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Okay, so there is, and I'm we're kind of going all over here because so there's a date in October that is significant. It's a ways away not close, but not far away from the 18th. The 18th is significant in a different month, for other reasons, month um. For other reasons. Um, I'm trying to remember when I I was. You were so close, though, to the event that I thought you were going to be talking about, but actually I don't remember the specific date that it happened, and I should have asked my wife about this beforehand.
Speaker 3:That's okay when you say it's not close to the 18th, the only way, and that's why I said the 18th of a month and you told me oh well, it's the 22nd and 23rd. That's not close for me.
Speaker 2:Okay, so that in that case it's not close. But October is significant. There is an October event, Yep.
Speaker 3:And the other piece of evidence is that the 18th of another month or around the 18th, which would be the 17th, the 18th or the 19th you give me the, you give me the 24. I'm going to say no but, it's another significant piece that's there now to go into Posey for a second. Is Posey sleeping right now? She's pretty much. Yeah, yeah, do you want me to wake her up? I mean no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:OK, she, she does this thing where she's one of those dogs that will sit up and look at you and fall asleep sitting up. So she needs to remember that she can actually lay down and take a nap because she's not missing anything.
Speaker 3:So I just want to talk about a couple of things for her. One is, um, we'll be talking about the doctors before you came in, like you guys having your physicals and your checkups and all that stuff. When posy comes in, I'm not liking the way the back of the teeth feel, so we may need to have some dental cleaning done that you may not be aware of, but you could look in her mouth right now and look at the back and see that the gums are, um, irritated. I would say look at her. Yeah, don't bother me.
Speaker 2:Um and uh, and you're, you're close. Was there something else about her teeth that you were gonna mention?
Speaker 3:well, this is. It sounds terrible, but I also want to like pull an extra tooth or two, so I feel that as well also. So I don't know if she's had her teeth pulled already, but if she hasn't, I need to get them done because I feel like she has extra I don't think I I I never heard extra, but actually.
Speaker 2:So what I was going to say, though, is she did have a tooth chipped, so when we went to the vet, she said, oh, she's been chewing on too hard of chews, and she actually chipped one of her teeth.
Speaker 3:Is she to make sure that there's no extra teeth in there?
Speaker 2:I believe she did yes and I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 3:She did say she needs a cleaning, though that is common for small dogs like this. I disagree with that. She's not that old. It's common for dogs that are 10, 11, 12, 13 years old If she's having teeth issues. Now there's one of two things. I'm not a vet. I'm going to say that Not a vet, it's either genetics or the quality of the food. Don't mean to insult you, but I'm not liking her food. I'm going to be honest. I'm not liking her food, so let's go into that for a second. Oh wait, I want to go back to the teeth, though. Also, I do want her, when she's going back in, I do want her teeth checked again, cause I feel like there is something here I know nobody can see me, but something on the sides on the top that I feel like may not even come through yet, but I feel like there's something going on with space that I don't like.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:So I just want to share that, because I'm not liking something with the teeth besides the chipped tooth. Okay, there's something else I don't like. Um, I have a piece of paper here that I scribble on in case you guys want to see that.
Speaker 3:They're probably wondering what the hell are you doing right now? Because I'm just going into the food situation for a second Because I feel like it's very processed Kibble. You're fine, she's uh. So I'm not. She's here and it's okay if she had. If she has to go, no no, she's fine, she's uh.
Speaker 2:Uh can hear her sister outside the door and she's wondering what she's doing. That's what she's looking at.
Speaker 3:So when I feel into the kibble I don't feel what I would call limited ingredient. I don't feel that. First is Posian kibble.
Speaker 2:First is Posey on Kimball. She's she's on a. Actually she's on a healthy weight food because because she was too heavy before and so she was told to switch and she actually lost weight and they said OK, that's, whatever she's on is good, because she's at her ideal weight now so she's on the prescription food no, no, well, not prescription.
Speaker 2:So at the store, when you get dog food there, you can usually get a regular or a healthy weight, uh something. So she's on healthy weight. Oh, and you gotta settle down now. I know what's going on okay yeah, they're home and so the daughter is going to come in and, yeah, and take her with in a little bit but so when I this sounds gross the way I'm going to explain it.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna explain it the way it's being explained to me. When I taste the k? Kibble, when I eat the kibble, I don't like the quality of it, and that's what I was saying earlier when I started to talk about the kibble. So if I were to say anything, I would look into changing her food to a higher quality of food. That would still because there's no fillers and there's no additives that are not needed. So I just feel like her teeth, her body, her coat looks great just looking at it, but tapping into her and feeling as I feel like if her food was a better quality she would just be in a better space.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying you guys are taking care of her right right you know, but I do have to say that I just didn't like the taste of the food. I just did it, um, and it could have also been she was. Was there ever a time that she was on prescription diet food, though, or prescription food? No okay, that food makes me really nauseous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, my yeah, I know about. Well, and that stuff my parents have a dog on prescription food and it's insanely expensive.
Speaker 3:And it's horrible. I just want to let you know. It's the worst thing ever. I hate to say this, but the people that are listening it's the bottom of the slaughterhouse and then they fill it with things that are not needed. That's the truth oh and here.
Speaker 1:I was waiting for that bye posy hello there little pw she pretty much is yeah yeah, all right, but you get a picture of posy, so you can, so you're good yeah, I have a picture of posy I, I cannot wait until this part is over, because, oh, do I have questions for you, natalie, based on what you're saying, and not because, like, I believe or disbelieve or anything like that, but because just how you're doing it is intriguing the shit out of me. You're, you guys are taking notes and everything. I'm taking notes too, but they're up here not saying they'll stay, but they're right there. So, yeah, I, I'm anxiously awaiting for the uh, the reveal of this. So DW can either I don't know silently shit himself or let people know that.
Speaker 1:Well, so here's two, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Can you? So now I'd like to ask you so can you tell me anything about Posey's past? Because before, prior to when we adopted her I mean, we got her when she was pretty young, by the way, but we know very little about the first. I believe it was like six or seven months of her life- can. Can you tell me anything about that? Do you? Can you see anything there?
Speaker 3:What's interesting is that I just want to share this really fast. Is that, um? Does Posey now have separation anxiety, or was there a period of time where she had separation anxiety Cause all of a sudden? I was just riddled. I pulled her picture up when she left because all of a sudden, I was just riddled. I pulled her picture up when she left. I was just riddled with anxiety all of a sudden. So before I go into her past, or ask her to share with me.
Speaker 3:would you understand why my heart started racing and feels like anxiety to me? Or is it not hers and she's acknowledging someone else that has anxiety? And I don't diagnose anybody, I'm just saying that's what it feels like.
Speaker 2:She doesn't really have separation anxiety. I tell her we're going, it's time for you to go in your crate. She doesn't like it, but when she's in there she's fine. She doesn't whimper, she lays down, takes a nap, and it's pretty much been that way since I can remember. So not really so much separation anxiety.
Speaker 3:I feel like she's looking for someone. Separation anxiety. I feel like she's looking for someone, so when we're away, you mean like I'm sorry, I'm just taking, I'm just dropping notes that she's like, like what she's sharing with me. So if you see me looking down or scribbling, I'm just trying to understand what she's showing me, because my heart started to race and I feel like I'm looking for someone Female. I don't like giving ages, because now that I've hit a certain age, I'm like right now I'm going to say that right now, um, and I think this would have been in the beginning, so I want to go to the beginning.
Speaker 3:When you first brought Posey home I know that we said that, that I think I heard you say you got her from a shelter, but I could be making that part up. I don't know if you shared that yes, I'm pretty sure was there a foster home? Do you know if she was in?
Speaker 3:before she was brought to the shelter. Okay, so that's what I want to talk about, because I feel like there was that confusion. So she might be bringing me actually to the anxiety of the actual space of the shelter and the noise, even if she was there for an hour, two hours, six hours, six days, because my foster home that I was in, I feel like there wasn't just me, I feel like I was with others, so I was with my litter and I feel like I was safe there, and then there was a lot of noise and chaos that I was brought to. So for her, from before she came to you, I feel like you'll abandonment. Actually, do you know if her mother was found on the road or on the street or in the town pregnant?
Speaker 2:that's the part we're not a hundred percent on. We do believe, uh, if I remember right, she was abandoned, okay, um, but I don't know if they, if even the shelter, knew who her mother was. So that part I can neither confirm nor deny. But I'm pretty, I think you're probably right. I think she was, I think she was abandoned.
Speaker 3:And then I feel like abandoned and like found. I don't know if it's in darkness or like in a basement, but that's what it feels like to me. I feel, like it's secluded, hidden and dark.
Speaker 2:So, john, do you want to ask? I don't know if we should like segue into the other dog, so before we do that, do you have anything you want to specifically ask? Or should we about clover, about, or about posy, posy, yep uh, you mean ask natalie about posy. Yeah, yeah well, yeah, actually you were, you were saying you've got. You know, I have a ton of questions.
Speaker 1:You said like I, this is where it stumps me. Okay, you were like um. You said you know she's saying you're hearing blah, blah, blah, right so. And you also said clear audience comes in and it sounds like right. So I guess my, my, my question is this like it's a dog okay, the dog speaks english.
Speaker 2:Is that what you're asking?
Speaker 1:well, no, like are. Is this? Obviously they hear us when we say no sit, or some some of them do when they say no sit or whatever.
Speaker 1:Right, they understand the command. So my brain goes well, they understand English. But then again, maybe they don't, maybe they understand the inflection of the voice or whatever, and they're like, oh OK, last time I heard this I had to do this. And that's what they do, kind of like the obviously the whole schrodinger thing you know, like with with the bell obviously. You know, every time you don't think of the bell, who's schrodinger?
Speaker 2:oh, that's the cat is the cat alive and dead. My bad, yeah, pablo's bell which is another I mixed up if I'm gonna be wrong.
Speaker 1:That is the best subject to be wrong in, right there like smart but stupid.
Speaker 2:Um, all right, so it's either pavlov or einstein, I can't remember.
Speaker 1:Einstein. I can't remember one of them, I don't know. One of them was a patent clerk, whatever, um. So what are you hearing? You're hearing English like how does this?
Speaker 3:work that's a fair question it's so true, and we forget, like because this is something I do, I forget these things. You know what I'm Like. I forget to like explain things and like I joked around, I said, you know, it's not dial a dead person. But there's some people out there that really think that I'm having a conversation and clairaudient is subjective. You guys can hear me speak right now and hear every word.
Speaker 3:I say so if something's subjective to me, that's where I'm like. You know it sounds like because I'm hearing it outside. But then if I ask you guys to sing happy birthday to yourselves, you hear yourself singing. That's objective, so it's in your mind. So that's. That's the difference between the clairaudient sound that we're hearing or that I'm hearing sound that we're hearing or that I'm hearing animals connect telepathically. I have to put all these puzzle pieces together. So what happens is is that, posy, I hear something, I see something, I feel something, I know something. I have to put all these pieces together in a tenth of a second and figure out what the heck are you sharing with me?
Speaker 1:I gotcha okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's why yeah that's why I always say mediums, or or animal communicators, or psychics. A lot of times we're not wrong, we misinterpret. So that's what happens. So posy can be showing me something and to me this is what I think it is, and posy might be like you, freaking moron.
Speaker 3:That is not what I'm right yep, you know, like why are you not getting what I'm sharing, which which can happen, you know, and that's why the other day I had a reading and I asked the girl why am I seeing baseball and cracker jacks? And she was like sort of crying and I'm like thinking baseball. I'm thinking baseball, like did your dad take you to baseball? She says no, my name's Jacqueline. My dad called me cracker jacks. Oh, misinterpretation.
Speaker 2:Right, I'm baseball.
Speaker 3:I'm thinking cracker jacks, that's what he's showing me. So that's the other piece. So it's a lot of telepathic communication. But I have to put all of those pieces together and figure it out yeah.
Speaker 1:So I was sitting there going like, okay, like, and not trying to be like haha or anything. No, that's not the point. But I'm like, if you're, everything is subjective, right anyway, like it, everything is part of perspective, like even, I would assume even psychic mediumship and stuff like that is also a part of its perspective. So you're seeing it from the perspective of what they were seeing. Everybody knows that a memory is just an echo of an echo. Your memories that you have aren't even 100, true, they're an echo of an echo. So therefore, like, my point in that is like, even if you are tapping into her, you're seeing a memory that could be all jumbled as well. So what you're communicating, like, whether it's me, clover, uh, dingleberry, what's the dog's name? I'm sorry, I apologize. Posy, posy, my bad, okay, dingleberry, dw, whatever, like it I'm gonna name a dog dw.
Speaker 2:So dw come here, not you dw. Dw stop that other. Dw don't hump that. No, not you dw the other dw oh you, dw, stop humping that anyway.
Speaker 1:So, um, no, I'm just, it's whether you're getting communication from anybody. It could be all jumbled anyway. Right, so what your your interpretation of our interpretation? That's what you get, like you ever seen the movie?
Speaker 3:minority report I've never seen that. I'm not a big movie tv person.
Speaker 1:I mean sorry everybody's like oh my god, but it's it's a great flick, but their pictures that they're showing and they're putting these people away in prison for a psychic, basically saying that this is going to happen, but they don't know, 100 that's going to happen. That's just like the interpretation. So the anybody ever wants to watch a good movie, watch minority report and you'll see how all that unfolds. But my point is is it's all interpretation. So even if posy is talking to her and saying here, you know, here's the light, hello, like there's where it's supposed to, whether she could still be like millimeters off and kind of correct at the same time, like she's been pretty much right on. I mean, I don't know every single thing, but I know by by your reaction to what she's saying and the fact that there are things that I do know she's been pretty spot on today she has, she well, and the thing is like the, the thing you said about being millimeters close, she has been like multiple times, but again, I don't want to give away.
Speaker 2:Oh, do you mean this? Right? Because I'm, I'm just waiting for for you to say this is what I mean, or this is what I heard, or something like that. So I'm, I'm trying'm trying again, I'm, I'm getting excited because, yes, you're so close, but I don't want to say, I don't want to give away the answer because it's. You know, I would much rather you you say it.
Speaker 3:So I agree, I agree, I would much rather say it. You know like I would much rather say it. So I agree, I agree, I would much rather say it. You know like I would much rather say it and so yeah, so what?
Speaker 2:what else can you tell? I think, here let's do this. I have one more thing, okay, go ahead one more thing.
Speaker 1:Then you go back that, like I said, it's a dw show today.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say, this is the first time I've tried like no, no, I want to talk normally it's a DW show today.
Speaker 1:I was going to say this is the first time I've tried Like no, no, I want to talk.
Speaker 2:Normally it's like, yeah, whatever, just wake me when it's over.
Speaker 1:All right. So what is I'm trying to speckle in like actual interview questions as we're going through this thing because I feel the reading's going to take most of it. But I want to obviously talk to you as well, because you know it's been six months and some of the stuff that I may have gone over on the first episode I've again jumbled 100 episodes of people. Essentially, you know that it's all up in there. So what is your percentage, or what do you feel your percentage of being correct is with your readings?
Speaker 3:so this is the honest answer. I'm only as good as my last reading, so my percentage is not. If you ever watch me live on Facebook, people might think, oh my God, she's 90% right, 95% right. But it's also. It's a trifecta here. I'm working with the animal and I'm working with DW.
Speaker 3:Right now, if DW just wants to test and be like no, no, no, that link is being cut off and I'm not saying you're doing that. No, that link is being cut off and I'm not saying you're doing that, but that link is being cut off, that link that's being cut off. Now the animal's like oh my gosh, I'm hearing no, no, no, no. And I'm like okay, well, I'm getting no, no, no, no. And even though I could be right, it's not.
Speaker 3:There's not that trust there, you know. So not, there's not that trust there, you know. So that's the other piece. Yeah, right, trust there between the three of us, or sometimes it's 50 of us, because people have numerous animals and people in the spirit world. I never check my percentages. I've had people tell me what they are and I'm like I don't want to know. And usually their their interviews like oh my God, we met with you last year and we did a New Year's Eve thing and this and that and the other. I try to trust in the spirit world and the animals. I'm just a conduit. It has nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1:OK, right.
Speaker 2:Well, which is fair, because I feel like I have this whole interview been going. I don't know if that's you know you're close, but I'm not going to say it. So I agree with that where you might be right, but if I'm just saying no, that's not it, then it comes off, as you know swing and a miss.
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 3:OK, so that's a good question too. That's good, also Like give me a no when that's a good question too.
Speaker 3:that's good, also like give me a no when it's a no right there's been plenty of times where I've been in readings and people are like nope, I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm like you know what. You know the animal's telling me yes, or the spirit world's telling me yes, and I'm gonna give it to you anyway, and I get off the phone or I get off the call or I get off the reading and I they go home and also they're like holy shit, I had no idea. I spoke to my mom. I spoke, you know yeah that's the other piece.
Speaker 3:Don't feed the medium, the animal communicator yes do that, don't feed us. But um, if you know something's right, don't say no. If it's a yes, don't say right.
Speaker 2:You know which is why like so, when you said October, I was like, well, there, that that's a whole month, there's significant things that have happened in October. I don't want to give away, you know instantly. This is why October is important. I'm kind of trying to get you to say like, well, can you give me anything else that you know? Because, again, there's significant dates in October. But what is it about October? So I mean, because I could pull from anything and say that, oh yeah, october I bought a car and that was very significant yeah, you got it, you know right, and that's the other thing.
Speaker 3:Is significant for me is a birthday and anniversary, a month of passing, see. Not significant for me is is buying a car, which sounds terrible and selfish. I don't mean to sound that way, but I mean something that you want to either celebrate or that you remember because it puts a mark on your soul. Right your child's birthday is significant you know this sounds terrible but their seventh birthday party may not be as significant, you know like you know.
Speaker 3:So it's when I say something significant. I don't want it to be that it was, you know, your third date with your now wife.
Speaker 1:All right, so that's another question I need to ask with that. So when you're picking up on Posey see, I got the name right. Anyway, when you're picking up on Posey, are you also picking up on DW? Are you also picking up on me? Like, where is the connection there?
Speaker 3:That can absolutely happen. So I try to have boundaries, I try to make sure of that. So if, if you sat let's say this was a paid meeting and you, you brought dw with you and dw brought posy and you sat in to be supportive I would say to you I just want you to know that stuff for you might come through because you're in this environment. But my intention, before coming on and sitting with the spirit world is like hey, listen, this is what we're here for. Please, please, honor what my intention is. You know, to connect with whatever animals that they asked me to connect with. Connect with whatever animals that they asked me to connect with. But, with that said, I tell my kids that when I'm no longer here, if they go to an animal communicator, you can damn well bet I'm going to be interrupting that reading fair, that's fair yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So I yeah, I just need to. I'm sitting there thinking I'm like, okay, well, just throwing it out there. October has significant. You know things for me as well, you know, and you know it's a possibility. Could you at any point pick up on something of mine? Now I will say this the 18th means nothing to me that I know of so october, though, the 18th of October, though, remember what I said Right, right, right, Another month.
Speaker 1:But I'm just saying do you see what I mean? Is there a possibility that in any of those messages you're picking up from me, him or whatever, just not just Posey yourself? Now, Posey is obviously an extension of dw and his wife and his kid and and even clover, a little bastard, so she's an extension of all them. So is there a possibility in any way that that could also be pushing through as well?
Speaker 3:So what I tell people, like when I do readings on lives, before I start I give my whole intro, all that fun stuff. I can't see anybody. It's horrible because the comments are delayed and you have to wait for people to say I can understand this or I can't. But as I'm doing my introduction, the spirit world is getting together and they're like holy shit, wait a minute. Your name is Chris, my name is Chris. You had a heart attack, I had a heart attack. You had a Siberian Husky. I had a Siberian Husky, let's go get her. And what we say is that there's such thing as a postcard where it's like you might feel something, where we that might be for me. That's your loved one saying, hey, I know you, I know, you know I'm here, I know you know, so just know I'm here. And then there's a parallel reading where you have more than one person and I always give this. This is where I get percentages.
Speaker 3:OK 95% yeses or more in my evidence, then that could be a parallel reading. If you're not, if you're 89%, that's a postcard. Okay, just so you know. I always say that and I tell people do not and don't take away from the postcards, because you know we need to hear from our animals that we lost, our loved ones, that we lost. You know the answers that we don't have. It gives us healing. So I don't take away from the postcards, but parallel readings. I love when that happens because it's just like it's not your basic evidence. You know it's a cracker jack box that I'm seeing that two people take and they're like, oh my god right we're like oh my god.
Speaker 3:Meanwhile, the spirit world's like look at these idiots, don't they think that we shared notes before we came on, you know?
Speaker 2:so that's really the truth of it so before we segue into the next dog, is there anything else about posy that's really standing out that you feel like you want to share they'll? They'll blow my socks off let me just actually kind of want to see that happen.
Speaker 2:I want to see w socks like fly across the room yeah, that's kind of what I want now too another advantage of zoom is that you would actually be able to see that you would be able to see that I just pulled posy's picture up again so was there was there.
Speaker 3:Did poesy like get away or like was poesy like missing, because she says I was lost, but I was found she, I mean going back to how she was originally, not not that far no, no, I'm sorry, I don't mean to say I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, that's because I want to get it right that's not.
Speaker 3:That's not my feeling. My feeling is like either she darted out of the house, it was like, and then you guys got her, but there's something about like she, she I heard this is what I heard I was lost but I was found. So it was like that fear of like her getting out or getting away but then getting her back. So it wasn't like she was missing for days or missing for hours, but it was like a quick thing that she's showing me with like this fear is it?
Speaker 2:are you sure it's her? No, because we just opened up a hole.
Speaker 3:We just opened up pandora's box with right, because that did.
Speaker 2:Uh, clover had that issue for a while where you couldn't open a door without her uh bolting out, and most of the time you know what happens and you run right after her. There was one time, however, it was late at night and it actually did take us a while to find her. So not like hours. We weren't searching the neighborhood or anything like that, but that did happen with Clover Posey. Quite the opposite in, in fact, because there was actually one time the gate was left open and she just stood by the doorway and said I'm not supposed to leave and she was like clover is the bad one.
Speaker 2:I'm fine, you know were they?
Speaker 3:were they? How do I say this? Were they living in the same home at any time together before? Before, before we adopted them, you mean posy and clover, because clover was the one who flew out clover was the one who flew out yeah and so the deal is.
Speaker 2:So I'll tell you this part of it. The deal was we got posy first, um, and she was. She was our only dog for only a short while when, until we got clover, and so they've been. They've been siblings more or less, uh, for most of their lives, because they were both of them were they do live in the same home, so they have lived together that. Well, we have both of them, so they're living okay.
Speaker 3:So that's a yes, then you said no. I was like what the hell?
Speaker 2:no I thought you meant.
Speaker 3:I thought you meant beforehand no, no, no, I meant now, okay, yes, I said that those are our dogs, so they're living together now. Yeah, so I didn't know if you were going to bring me a picture of clover or if you're going to physically bring clover, and I haven't oh no, clovers um.
Speaker 2:Clover is the nuts one, so I don't know if I'll go get her um okay, so this is why I so.
Speaker 3:Let me just explain, because we talked earlier. You said oh, I have another dog, I'm gonna bring in clover. I said you have a picture of clover. Remember me saying that to you in the beginning. Oh, yeah, it happened to clover at all, so I didn't know that they were living together now in the same home so actually, yeah, so the.
Speaker 2:So we have posy and clover, but it's actually a different dog that I'm going to be talking about in just a second okay, so and actually so, so, let me okay go ahead only because I saw this, I got out and then I got back, kind of thing.
Speaker 3:So it could be Posey sharing what she sees Because they live in the same home. So that's the only reason why I asked that question. I just want to explain. That's why I asked, because it was a really weird feeling Like I felt like I was there or I was around or I know this. That's why I asked if they ever lived together in the same home.
Speaker 2:Yes, I know this. That's why I asked if they ever lived together in the same home. Yes, so they're. They're. Posey and Clover are our two dogs, so yes, they do live together Okay. So before we move on to pumpkin, different dog. So and you'll see why I'm going to ask this question, so we've been talking about Posey and Clover, who are in the other room right now. How are things different from a living dog as opposed to a dog that's passed on?
Speaker 3:So it depends on the person who's sitting in front of me and this is why, and it depends on the personality of the animal that's there. So Posey, coming in, was very calm and very just kind of chilled. If you have an individual that has their pet and the pet doesn't want to be held on to them like you don't have to, but they're insisting on it, that creates friction so that with a live animal might create something that makes it a little bit difficult for them to trust in me, just because of the environment that they're in. When we have an animal that's past, sometimes people's emotions can get in the space of connecting with that animal that's past okay you know.
Speaker 3:So that's the other piece of it, but is there really a difference? You know, if you ask me what is know if you ask me what is it like to meet somebody psychically and what is it like to meet somebody mediumistically, I would give you the same answer.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, so let me see. If so, can you see the?
Speaker 3:picture there, I can.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, um, I'm pretty sure you can guess which one is pumpkin um, but yeah, so, and I'll, I'll give you a just a little context, but not too much, because, again, I want to see what you can tell us do me a favor.
Speaker 3:Can you enlarge just pumpkin a little bit, or no? Um, I just want to make sure that I don't tap into the two others.
Speaker 2:There we go. This might work OK.
Speaker 3:Is that? There we go? Yeah, I just don't want to tap into people that I'm not supposed to tap into.
Speaker 2:Ok, so you want to let me know? So, yes, so this is Pumpkin Pumpkin was. Yes, so this is Pumpkin Pumpkin was. She's a Papillon Spaniel I'm just giving a little for those who, because we're audio only, and so she passed away. Gosh, it was a while ago now, so, and actually I'm just going to leave it at that because I don't want to say too much. But yeah, so that's pumpkin.
Speaker 3:Okay, oh, can you bring that picture back?
Speaker 2:up. Oh, you want it back. I'm sorry, just so I can bring it to you.
Speaker 3:I'll take a picture of pumpkin. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:No, that's okay. Oops, there we go, okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, I got pumpkin now Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So so I don't confuse people again, posey and Clover are are the what our listeners would know as the hellhounds. Uh, pumpkin was the, uh, the family dog before them.
Speaker 1:So, uh, so actually, john has never um met pumpkin and actually wait, now that I think about it, you've only met Clover that one time from the previous episode and you haven't met Posey you keep your family and your pets away from me for some reason I don't know Well, because I don't want them tainted by.
Speaker 2:I get it yeah.
Speaker 1:The whole Serene family go up in flames.
Speaker 2:There's a reason why you can't reproduce anymore. So anyway, um, because I was sick, I'm just, I'm just trying to to fill a little bit of time for natalie to to.
Speaker 3:I'm like listening. I'm fine not to laugh throwing her off and and so, and. So you know I don't. I just want to explain it this way.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:I don't. I felt tremendous grief when I tapped into pumpkin and when I felt this. I felt like either this was the first loss that I've experienced or this this was like the first loss. So this feels to me like the loss of pumpkin was eye opening or eye awakening to me. So that's the way I feel, like it was something different about her loss and I said her is pumpkin to her yes okay, I just like to make sure of that.
Speaker 3:Like, sometimes it's out and then I just don't want to misgender anybody, um, and I just feel I don't know. I keep getting this, and when I get this I feel like it was either sudden and unexpected. There's something about the transition that was quick that she gives me so this is another um.
Speaker 2:You're close, but I'm not trying to.
Speaker 3:I don't want to give you, give you too much because, yes, I don't know, that's all, and I'll.
Speaker 2:So I'll say, uh, maybe. So I'm not giving you. Okay, you are on the right track. Yes, I'm.
Speaker 3:This is definitely not a no okay because okay, so this is what I just want, to go a little bit more because and I'm sorry for explaining it this way, but this is- the way.
Speaker 3:I feel, or I see it in the pictures here. So that's why I keep looking down. I feel my breathing is heavy and my throat is closing Please don't take this literally so I feel like either I got ill or something happened that had to change. So I feel like this is happening quickly and a decision has to be made for me. That's the way I'm sensing this. It's like you know, like and I'm sorry for this, I don't mean to give if this was a regular reading, we could say this way. You know, like I wouldn't, I would be a little bit more gentle in the meaning of the feeling of it. But then, when I feel the transition has happened, I feel the sense of relief. So I feel like pumpkin was hiding ailments or hiding pain that she was having and then took a turn for the worse. Sorry for saying it that way.
Speaker 3:But I just feel like I got bad quickly. So there was like no choice. And that's what I mean like no choice. And then pumpkin makes me feel like no choice because if I gave a choice choice they would have done anything, because there was no no in the vocabulary. So this is the way my plan had to be laid out. Can you understand this?
Speaker 2:yeah, okay so.
Speaker 3:So it's like we're blessed with having to make a decision, but we're cursed with having to make a decision, but we're cursed with having to make a decision at the same time, and I feel like a decision had to be made and we still sit and feel like, oh my gosh, but what if? Because that's what pumpkin's giving me. What if maybe we could have done this or tried this, or just change this? That's the feeling I'm getting.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to do this just to test you. So are you saying because she's close?
Speaker 3:And I'm trying to.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking of a number between one and 87. No 23, yes, I got it. Uh, so are you are you able to then tell me if pumpkin died naturally, or if she was put down.
Speaker 3:I feel that she was put down because I feel like I'm having a discussion with someone of making this decision. That's the way she makes me feel I'm having a discussion with someone of making this decision. That's the way she makes me feel I'm hearing conversation happening.
Speaker 2:So I might as well.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right. That's all of what you just said is correct. So can you tell me anything about and this I can only say because we know about it Can you tell me anything about the illness, or is she telling you anything about the illness that she had?
Speaker 3:So what I feel I just want to share with the little pieces that I'm getting shown.
Speaker 3:First I feel like I'm here and then I spread, so I feel like whatever I had started in one area of the body and then went to another. And then I feel like when I'm and listening, I'm listening to a doctor explain this, so I feel like I'm being explained, that like this is. I hate this feeling, this is not good and there's I'm sorry to say this like there's no coming back from this, and then I feel pressure in my eyes. So I don't know if it went to the brain and there was pressure in the eyes, because I just feel like my eyes aren't working the right way either. And I'm listening to this being shared and talked and I'm hearing this conversation in this space and this knowing and I also feel this is not pumpkin's emotions, but these emotions around of like that's not fair. So I don't know if we were told that pumpkin had X amount of time and the time was cut short, but I feel like someone saying this is not fair and not that it's ever fair.
Speaker 3:Let me just say, but I feel like those words were stated and it might even been like this is bullshit, you know, like that kind of feeling, cause I feel like that sense of also of like anger. How can you take this time away from me when you told me I had more than what I had and I'm upset about that. And then pumpkin comes back to say I don't want anyone to be upset because and I'm not just saying this because I don't have to say this she's sharing with me very clearly the life that she had was amazing and that she also had a fear of not allowing, of you, not allowing another animal to experience this. And I know you have the two now. But I feel like the decision to add more to the family was very difficult because of the pain that was endured, of the loss of Pumpkin.
Speaker 2:So I'm to backtrack quite a bit. Actually, I thought at first when you were, when we were talking about posy and you were talking about right, that for our daughter this was the first big loss that she had to deal with was pumpkin. And you're right, she had, uh, an illness that came on pretty well. I shouldn't say came on suddenly. We knew about all of a sudden, but may have been going on for a while. I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I want to go into the details of what the the illness was. Suffice to say it was we. We had that decision of basically we. We just decided that this was the, that we weren't going to um, that basically. So to give you a little bit more, we decided that there was, the treatment would have been expensive and even if it had worked, she was old enough that it wouldn't have prolonged her life that much and probably would have worn her down like crazy.
Speaker 2:So again, what you said before about um, a blessing, but not was okay. We can pick when pumpkin goes about Blessing, but Not was okay. We can pick when Pumpkin goes. That's kind of a good thing so we don't have to come home and find her gone on the couch, but at the same time we're saying she has to go. So anyone who's put down a dog that's basically what you're going through is saying this has to be done, but at the same time I don't want to do it, you know. So I and I bring that up because I wondered if, when you were talking about grief before and Posey filling that grief if that's what you meant- it could be.
Speaker 3:I can't say yes or no because I'm not in that space right now. You would know that by feeling it you know what I'm saying. Like that would be more of a tinge for you. I'm just delivering the evidence that I receive.
Speaker 2:Can you tell? So, can you tell me, because Pumpkin had a definite favorite. Do you see any of this? Do you get that at all?
Speaker 3:I'm gonna be honest, I don't and I don't giggle, but I don't get a favorite.
Speaker 2:I don't it? I don't, um, and actually so to to elaborate on that, do is there anything about cause? This is one of the things I wanted to talk to you about. Anything about, not necessarily me specifically, but pumpkin was had issues with with me to start out with when she we first got her. Is there anything there about why? Or?
Speaker 3:was she, so she was another.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say the word rescue, but oh, but which, by the way, when we this rescue was a very different situation, and I'd be very interested if you knew anything about that.
Speaker 3:Well, I just feel like there was a male distrust. So I feel like there was an experience with a male when she was younger, so that's where I feel that was imprinted with her. That's why I asked that, but to be fair, she wouldn't grow up and have aed with her. That's why I asked that.
Speaker 1:But to be fair, she wouldn't grow up and have a problem with DW.
Speaker 3:If.
Speaker 2:If you're going to do one joke, this whole episode make it a good one. Why do you the first time you Gosh?
Speaker 3:I was like, wait what it's all right.
Speaker 2:The sad I mean if it takes me that long to figure it out, and then it's not that good when I come to the realization.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it takes a while to land baby. Sometimes they circle the airport a couple times. They'll get there, They'll find their spot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if you've got broken landing gear, that's it.
Speaker 3:You know what's interesting? Um did you say papillon?
Speaker 2:papillon. Uh, we, we didn't the pumpkin, we didn't do a dna test on, so we this was just based on what they told us. They said papillon on Spaniel.
Speaker 3:I say Chihuahua, unless she's just giving me that personality, which it could be of. That feeling of trust takes me a while and I don't know my size, so it could be just that I'm seeing that because of personality reasons, but I do feel like there was a male at some point when she was younger that she did not feel safe with before you came around. That's what I feel.
Speaker 2:So would. So then she wasn't trusting of males in general in the beginning. Yes, okay, which is right. Yes, that was uh. Um, and she never, since I wasn't the favorite, so my wife was the favorite, oh gosh can you read it my? House well you had a good chance because there were two people in that or two people in that picture. You know what. It wasn't like men.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait. I'm not going to sit there and say that I'm a psychic or a medium in any way. There's a possibility, there's a chance, a chance in my small little pea brain that I'm saying this, that I could be sensitive enough to where I could pick up on things whether or not I acknowledge them or not is one is a whole nother thing. But what I'm saying is you know, you said you're like can you tell which one is the favorite? Now, I did not know whatsoever who it would have been, and you're right, it was a 50 50 shot in that one photo. But there was also, like it's 33.3 chance that it could have been you as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we, we were talking about this. Part of why I brought it up is because she had issues with me from the beginning.
Speaker 1:So I said you know, like she, you're like which one's the favorite. And I immediately went to like I bet I bet it wasn't daughter. That was my thought. That was like it. I bet it wasn't her, that it it was.
Speaker 2:Well, true, but only for certain reasons, only because Pumpkin came first. So we actually got Pumpkin when it was just me and my wife, right? So then it was a 50-50 chance. Actually, not even a 50- 50 chance, because me, being male, she doesn't like males. She's like well, I'm going to become friends with the only female in the house.
Speaker 3:So I would have to know that you got her before you had children, even though I knew that it was the first experience of your daughter's loss. Yeah, that it was the first experience of your daughter's loss.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, and so do you. Can you tell me anything about now? She had a foster home. She, from what I understand, did well there, enjoyed it and everything. But can you tell me anything about the life pre foster home, before she was rescued? Just because it's an interesting story and I want to see what you can tell me about it she is, I always feel the need to fill the void Because we're audio, so no people at home. You didn't lose connection or anything like that, she is just deep in thought.
Speaker 1:I don't know. You just hear me every once in a while going.
Speaker 2:The thing is with you. It's two seconds of silence, and then that was awesome yeah, that sounds I don't know why I heard this.
Speaker 3:I'm just going to give you the words that I heard okay, breakup. And then I felt like relationship. So I don't know if pumpkin was in a family where there was a breakup or if there was a divorce or if there was something like that, but I felt separation, like two people that were explosive together.
Speaker 2:That's what I felt that I can't answer um, well then, because? Well, because I know there was. So I don't know if the man that we talked about, that she had a problem with before, was in that household. I do know there is a woman, but I don't know if there is a man. I don't know if they broke up. I don't know what the deal is with that. So, in this case, I can't say if you're right or wrong Very possible but I can't say if you're right or wrong very possible. But I can't say if you're right or wrong, but I, I'm, and I'm not going to say anything more because I'm. She just came from a very interesting, uh, uh, predicament that I was wondering if you knew anything about, um, and, and I'll, if, if you're not getting that, I'll, I'll tell you I keep getting divorce, separation, like, like, like, moving, so I can't.
Speaker 3:I can't, that's, I could only give what I get. And it's just this weird feeling of sounds. This is sounds terrible. What I'm going to, I'm gonna say and I want anybody to think like but like, pack me up and move me. So that's what I keep on saying, like literal, like I see boxes you're not picking up on me, are you, hey, queen consul?
Speaker 1:are you getting rid of me?
Speaker 2:you'd be the last, so it so the deal is. So pumpkin um, pumpkins actually was actually famous because she was on. Well, actually, no, her picture wasn't on the news, so she was on the news because the believe it was over 100 dogs in her uh uh, mobile home unit, out in her yard in a trailer park, and the humane society had to come in and say this is not good living situations for these dogs. And some dogs were okay and were adopted right out. Pumpkin was one of. I want to say it was like five, ten dogs that had social issues and had to go into a foster home before they could be, could be adopted out and, um, uh, what was I going to say? But anyway, so she was in a foster. So we don't know exactly how old she is, we don't know what breed she is. She was 3-4 around there when we got her and, yeah, she and the thing is.
Speaker 2:I like telling that story because she was a good example of how a person can change, a dog can change, a person can change, but also, at the same time, don't forget your roots, don't forget where you you come from, because Pumpkin was very different, as the longer she was with us and was more comfortable. But there was always that teeny bit of fear that just never went away. And even with me she got to like me, she was much more comfortable with me towards the end, but there was a long period of time where she would run away from me just when I came in the door. So it was, um it, I, I mean it. She was, she was fantastic and of course, we miss her.
Speaker 2:But the other person you saw in the picture was my daughter. She was, oh, let me look at the year, if I can guess when this would have been. No, I want to get info. Oh, what year was this? So this would have been seven. Oh gosh, seven years ago. So my daughter would have been, uh, three or four at the time. So, yeah, and so my daughter. Since pumpkin came first, my daughter was born, she grew up with this dog. So there was this was the first, you know, she knew of a dog, ever since she was a baby, and when she was put down, that was the first big loss that she ever had to deal with.
Speaker 1:That is a horrible loss. Like I had a dog from the time I was born until we were both 17. And I'm the one that took her in and let her go. I think we talked about this last time we were on here but, um, that's, that's horrible, it's, it's, it's a bad feeling and luckily for me, or unluckily, however you want, I had plenty of death in front of that to you know. You know what I mean. So it wasn't the first, but still devastating.
Speaker 2:So if that was the first for her, that's yeah it's and I mean I'll uh, I don't know how I. I said I I didn't want to give away too much. But the one other thing I'll say is she was very, um, tolerant of a baby, learning how to be with dogs, you know. So she, she thinks it's a giant fluffy toy so she wants to grab it. We were lucky that if we had posy or clover very different story, um, they might be dead right now, if you know we had would have murdered someone because that would have not been good. Um, but pumpkin, my daughter would grab her face and pumpkin would just like put up with it. And so you know, we could tell her no, don't do that. But she was a good dog to have for learning. This is how you treat dogs. You know, this is what we do with dogs. No, don't do that, pet her here, stuff like that. So we were very lucky in in that regard with with pumpkin that's good, so it's unconditional love.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the loss is always. I find with animals losses is harder because with people we have some sort of conflict at some point in our life.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it's gonna I think, that's true for the most part.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, yeah, I can't remember having an argument with a dog or my dog telling me to go fuck myself or some shit like that. You know, like they're probably thinking it, but it's never happened, so I know it has with friends and family.
Speaker 2:When a dog barks. That's what they're really saying. You just can't All right. So any other things before we wrap up, or John, since I'm leading this now, I guess. John, I'll let you talk if you want to. John, is there anything else you want to?
Speaker 1:I have a ton of questions, but I don't know how we're whatever, Because we've been talking about dogs and that's fine. I mean, that's part of the whole thing DW wanted you back on so you could read.
Speaker 2:Posey, if lightning could strike twice.
Speaker 1:So this was all a vanity project for D-dubs today. That's what this was all a vanity project for D-dubs today. That's what this was. But no, I have questions. Obviously, you are a psychic and medium, and what's easier for you Reading people or reading animals?
Speaker 3:I. What's easier for me are the people, that the living, that participate openly meaning, come in. So it's not the dead, it's not the animals, it's the living humans that ruin readings okay, that ruined.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can see that, yeah, yeah you know, and sometimes it's not intentional.
Speaker 3:I want to say that also.
Speaker 3:Like sometimes people come in and the grief is they're so grief stricken, they're just not ready they're grasping the straws too, though yeah to be honest and I'll be honest also during a reading, if I have someone who's like yes, yes, oh my god, yes, I will throw in a piece of bullshit in there that I know the spirit world or the animal did not give me. Because if they give me a yes and I know that, while they think that what they're doing is the right thing, I'm not connecting the right way. They're not getting what they deserve or what they paid for.
Speaker 1:That's not right so what do you do at that point? Do you stop?
Speaker 3:yeah, I'll say listen, you know, um, I hope that this is okay, but I just don't think it's the right time, you know. And and I'll say listen, you know, I hope that this is okay, but I just don't think it's the right time, you know, and I'll ask them to come back at another time. You know, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I'm like wait, let's just see. You know that kind of thing and the same thing also if I get three no's in a row. I'm very honest with people. You know what. I might not be the person for you, so let me see if I can get evidence and if I don't refund you right away. And it's happened four times in the 10 years that I've been doing this, where I've given people refunds because I just wasn't their person and they're so grateful for that. And I have people that I trust that I will recommend reach out to X, Y and Z, because they're good people reach out to x, y and z because they're good people.
Speaker 2:So is do you need time if someone has passed? Do you or a pet? I should say um, if someone has passed, is it, is there a chance? A time that's too soon, like, do you need to give it time before you can go, before people come to you? If it, like happened last week, they're so excited to hear something, to get answers, that maybe they're too too willing to believe it or to believe that you know, everything is right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so for the people, I open my calendar monthly and people are like, why do you only open it monthly and not like for the year? And there's a reason why. I find that when people let's say, someone lost someone last week, they'll try to get an appointment with me and they can't my calendars fill and they have to wait until the next month.
Speaker 3:I do that for a couple of reasons. One is I tell the spirit world, please open the calendar for that person when the time is right. There's been times where people have gotten a meeting with me the next day. I'm like how the hell did that happen? You know, and they even said to me how the hell did that happen. And I have people who've been on my waiting list for over a year, you know. So that that's that's kind of like a control thing and agreement that I have with the spirit world. Um, I also have and this is on purpose, and people who are listening are like, wow, that's fucked up um, I have an emergency reading fee. You want a reading with me? It's an emergency. It's like I think it's like $500 for 30 minutes. Ask me how many times somebody's booked that with me. I'm guessing Zero. You know why you should never need an emergency reading.
Speaker 2:I suppose what would be the urgency. If the person has already passed, then there's no sense in doing it right away. You might as well wait.
Speaker 3:So I priced it so high that when people ask me do you have an emergency reading fee, I say absolutely. And you know what I get back. That's ridiculous and I go, I agree.
Speaker 1:I think you should wait until you're ready.
Speaker 2:Fair enough.
Speaker 1:I mean we should do that. Dw Emergency podcast.
Speaker 2:We don't get anything for our regular podcast.
Speaker 1:All of a sudden we're charging our premium. What the heck? Whatever? Yeah, we get things. We get a lot of things. Okay, so DW kind of hijacked that question. It's cool.
Speaker 2:It's my show, did you hear?
Speaker 1:Now I don't want to get too deep into this, just a simple yes, I'm going to reverse this on you. I'm going to do this to the psychic medium and have fun with it. So, uh, just throughout the course of this, you had the dogs and everything. Did you pick up on me and or dw at all? No okay, all right, just just thought I'd ask, not asking you to just saying I won't do that, I won't just don't ask yeah um now, how so can you do that?
Speaker 1:meaning like, not can you do it right now? But like, say, I always ask this it's always the walmart trope, right? So if you're're in Walmart and you see somebody who's a creepy douchebag or whatever, can you pick up on them and see what they're thinking? Like if he's thinking, oh mama, and then you have to get all New York attitude with him, or like, does I mean, can you pick up on that stuff?
Speaker 3:So I have boundaries. So if I don't, so if you sat in a reading with me, I would have like oh, you know, welcome to the reading. Blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, are you okay with knowing everything I receive? If I don't, that's where the spirit world or my guides, or whatever, know oh, she's working, otherwise there is. No, I don't't, I don't want to know, unless it's like a life or death situation, that that they want me to interfere with, which I've never had, and not putting it out there to have it. I don't want to like, there's boundaries, you have to have boundaries all right.
Speaker 1:So, with that being said, and I want to go back to the New York attitude thing, have you ever had to go all New Yorker on somebody who's been in your, in your presence, meaning like getting a reading or whatever else, and just you're saying, you're shaking your head, yes so I'm shaking my head.
Speaker 3:Yes, I have.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 3:Yes, I have.
Speaker 1:And why?
Speaker 3:Why? Because, again, the living don't have boundaries and they don't understand certain things. For instance, I'll read for you at any time you want. Are you okay with receiving a reading? Yes, I am. Don't call me and ask me if your new neighbor is a racist. Don't call me and ask me if your significant other is is cheating on you. The answer is yes, If you're asking that question, first of all, you know, but you know kind of savage, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Jesus, oh, that's what? Ah, that's a all right Business idea. That's what I should do $500. Ask me if your partner's cheating? Yeah, they are, that'll be $500. Thank you, have a nice day.
Speaker 1:It's actually really good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I'd, I'm curious to know why, if you were to ask that, why you would say yes, why?
Speaker 2:Oh it's because if you suspect they are, they probably are Right, isn't that it?
Speaker 3:And the thing is that, like I'm not going to tap into someone else to see what they're doing, so you're coming to me, you're asking that question because you know I'm going to, you know they are like you said, but the next question that it's going to be is going to be who is it? What are they doing? What are they seeing each other? Where is it at?
Speaker 1:and that's just completely unethical well, yeah, not, you can become an accomplice, because if they're asking where they are and things like that, it's just going to go down and yeah in new york, that's especially in new york. Yes, yeah, um, especially in New York. Especially in New York, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:And you're we're not going to go too. There's minority report right there. You caused a murder because you found out. Yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 1:I don't want to go too geographic here, but are you? You're in the city, correct?
Speaker 3:No, I'm right outside 30 minutes.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, all right, I was just.
Speaker 3:I was born in the bronx. From the bronx I taught in the bronx, so nice yeah, right, right there very, very cool.
Speaker 1:Um, is that? No, that's, that's brooklyn. I was gonna say tribeca, that's, that's brooklyn. Right, that's not the Bronx.
Speaker 3:No, that's not the Bronx.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you're straight New York. That's pretty freaking badass. I like that. And then another follow-up question to, I guess, the last one. So you said if a person was like here's my significant other cheating on whatever blah blah, have you ever been in a relationship where you knew that or you picked up on something that your significant other was doing, being that you're a medium or a psychic at this point, have you picked up on it and had to nix the old relationship?
Speaker 3:No, and it sucked.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:I had no idea, and it was right in front of my face that there was stuff going on and I had no idea.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, when you're too close, it's like what do you say? You can't see the forest from the trees.
Speaker 3:It still pissed me off. Right Like here I am, you know, like with that. You know that pisses me off.
Speaker 1:And then again you got your chance to go all New York on them. So I mean that's.
Speaker 3:Trust me. I didn't pack somebody's bag so fast like that.
Speaker 1:I legitimately, I you know. Um, that's something that's just I'm curious about, right, because you know people when they go through those struggles I went through them before it sucks, it's horrible. Um, nothing can make you feel personally as as I'm saying it as a person who's gone through it. Nothing can make you feel more like you are not wanted more than that that's the way, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like you might as well just put a dump, uh garbage bag on me and put me in the by the curb, that's you know. But I'm not gonna go too far into into that stuff. But I was just curious to know if, being a psychic, you could pick up on any of that stuff, like this curiosity thing, I guess in a way I could tell you tragic wise, that's really was.
Speaker 3:It has been extremely and I'm working with the spirit world now. I started doing this because my student, one of my students I'm also a high school teacher one of my students was murdered oh shit right before she was murdered.
Speaker 3:She was supposed to see me and I told her give me two more weeks and I'll be done. I could spend time with you. I missed seeing her because I asked her for two more weeks. A couple'll be done. I could spend time with you. I missed seeing her because I asked her for two more weeks. A couple of years later, one of my students takes his life. Reached out to me beforehand. I was like, hey, listen, I got off next week we could meet up. I lost him.
Speaker 3:Last year one of my students was killed in a car accident. They checked the video in the hallway the Friday before the weekend and I had come down the stairs and went up the hallway and she came right around the corner and just missed me and she hugged another teacher that she saw in the hallway because that's what we do with these high schoolers. And I said you know like, this is bullshit. You know like, why don't I get that goodbye? Why don't I get that? And then I realized I always shared with the spirit world. If I have someone in front of me that's going to die, I don't want to know. I respected my boundaries well, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's not crazy. No, I'm not saying that, I'm just saying like, wow, if that is, that's legit, you could do that with your significant other and things like that. And you know, you never know. See me, I feel I would be. I hate to say this, I would be the more selfish part of that. I want to know everything. Anything that's in front of me. I want to know everything. Anything that's in front of me, I want to know it. And it's more anxiety, I think, than anything else, because if somebody has anxiety, they're scared of what's coming next, right. So wouldn't you think if somebody who has like psychic abilities and it's anxious right, that they're going to be like hell, yeah, this is good, I know this. I'm not supposed to. I turned left up here, not right. If I turn right, I'm fucked right, like so I don't know. I just feel it would be a blessing for me in a way someone who has anxiety, though correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3:Do you like scary movies like?
Speaker 1:absolutely.
Speaker 3:I love scary movies of course you do, because that feeling of the anxiousness, of not knowing what's going to happen next in the scene, is familiar to you Because you have anxiety. So if you know what to expect, you're not going to understand the anxiety anymore.
Speaker 2:I don't like this, I'm just wow, that I mean, I guess that makes sense right, like and for me, because the opposite is true, because I don't like scary movies and I re-watch movies all the time because I know what's gonna happen. Yep because it's not scary, because it's like well, I know what happens in the scene. I know how this movie ends because I've already seen it isn't that crazy, that's just yeah, wow, that's, that's badass see there there's that phrase again. I told. Told you what.
Speaker 1:You should put that on a t-shirt, or that's awesome. Wow, that's awesome. Alright, dw, you're running. I have said what I will say.
Speaker 2:We should wrap it up, we should. I've got my this or that, and since it's been so long Wait hold on.
Speaker 1:What you have to ask her. I mean, obviously she's running the business here, pal. We need to. People need to know where to go to find she does things, and she just did a free one for you. Pump her damn stuff up, let's go.
Speaker 2:This is why I don't lead the shows ever. I don't like when you lead the shows and you lead the imaginary vacations where I don't even get to freaking eat. All right, natalie, tell everyone where they can find you.
Speaker 3:My handle is for everything For Facebook, Instagram, TikTok is at NatalieLuciaMedium and my website's at NatalieLuciaMediumcom.
Speaker 2:And if you want to be the first person ever to pay $500 for an emergency rating, she has an opening next Thursday.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what here's what you do Go to Natalie, natalie, luciacom and type in the promo codes glaries, pod and nothing will happen and you will get your emergency rating for $1,500.
Speaker 2:I was going to say you'll get it for the discounted price of 499, 499, 99.499.99. All right, there's a 2% processing fee, so it ends up being more Okay Now that we've. Is there anything else? John, I don't know. You're the one leading the show. I don't know if I am anymore.
Speaker 2:All right, natalie. I think it's about time we. I'm looking at an empty can of hard cider. It's time to do this or that. So if we've repeated any from last episode I can't remember I doubt that you would anyway so some of these may be repeats, but I actually know I don't think so because I think most likely John would have let it last time.
Speaker 2:So we're going to be good, alright okay, I don't think so, because I think most likely John would have let it last time. Yep, so we're going to be good. All right, okay, apples, oranges.
Speaker 3:Oranges.
Speaker 2:Oh, and I heard the little New York accent on oranges. So clue or monopoly. Clue or Monopoly Clue, alright. Beach or pool Beach, alright. If you were ghost hunting, would you want to go with the Ghostbusters or Scooby-Doo and the Gang?
Speaker 3:Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 2:And the Gang. Yeah, there's a dog there. You can, yeah, so all right. Okay, you've perfected your time machine. Do you want to go back to 1825 or forward to 2225?
Speaker 3:1825.
Speaker 2:Okay, you want to see the picture.
Speaker 1:Coming from a teacher too, by the way.
Speaker 2:She wants history. Yep, okay, does the toilet paper go over or under?
Speaker 3:If it goes on the holder in my house, that's a mean poop.
Speaker 2:Best answer. All right, elephant-sized squirrel or squirrel-sized elephant.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's a hard one. I think I'm going to say elephant-sized squirrel.
Speaker 2:Okay, mozart or Led Zeppelin.
Speaker 3:Mozart.
Speaker 2:Mozart Vinyl records or streaming music vinyl all right, yeah, hiss and pop okay, makes so. Actually a couple from my daughter, because I said, hey, hey, we're doing this or that, do you have any you want to contribute? So here's her two dogs or cats.
Speaker 3:Oh, I can't choose, I can't choose.
Speaker 2:Just say just say dogs, and we'll move on. So that's the right answer.
Speaker 3:Well, if I go by numbers, in my house's gonna be cats I'm assuming cats because I have six, oh my gosh wow, who?
Speaker 2:uh, we'll move on all right. So here's her other one, black lab, or golden.
Speaker 1:Golden Lab.
Speaker 3:So it's going to be Black Lab, because Golden Retrievers they're a little too dopey.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right.
Speaker 3:I love them, but Black Labs are easier to train.
Speaker 2:All right, so our final one.
Speaker 3:John Olson or Jeffrey Dahmer Are we having lunch together.
Speaker 2:She needs to ask to clarify, so that's not a good sign.
Speaker 3:John, of course.
Speaker 2:If we had said lunch I, I mean she probably would have gone.
Speaker 3:Jeffrey knows how to barbecue he knows how to set a meal right, exactly, but you did win that one, so you're good does this taste like foot?
Speaker 1:why does this taste like foot? This is foot. What? Alright, john, I'll give you the.
Speaker 2:This is foot, what? Alright, john, I'll give you the, or actually, oh, do you want? Do you want me to?
Speaker 1:end it? No, because I'm the one that has to push the button. So I mean, why would you? Oh yeah, only you can screw that up. So that's right. That's my time, baby.
Speaker 2:It's my time, alright, everyone let's see if you can get this right the whole thing.
Speaker 1:First of all, natalie, uh, I'm gonna go backwards here. Uh, first of all, thank you for choosing me over. Jeffrey dahmer really appreciate that. Um, just barely, though, just barely, but that's still still pretty cool. Um, thank you for giving us your time and reading DW's mutts, which sounds weird to say, but anyway, that's pretty badass and always being a really cool sport. I enjoy chatting with you when I can sport. I enjoy, uh, chatting with you when I can. Um, you know, but, uh, you know, like I said, this was more of a vanity piece for dw and we needed to uh to get this get this done, so we can, so he could talk about you for the next 34 episodes and we can maybe get you on after our 100th or something. I don't know. You'll come back. You'll come back a third time. We'll just do humans right that'll be fun which again sounds weird.
Speaker 1:But you can figure out.
Speaker 2:If you can figure out what's messed up about john, then yes, then. I'll be convinced.
Speaker 1:I will tell you what. This is an open challenge and you have several weeks to figure this out. If you can figure out what the hell is wrong with me, I will pay for an emergency session.
Speaker 3:I'm just scared that Jeffrey Dahmer would show up. I'm just saying he comes in, would show up.
Speaker 1:I was just saying, that's.
Speaker 2:I heard that I wasn't the favorite. What the heck?
Speaker 1:Years of therapy, and that's a bad Jeffrey Dahmer impression, by the way, what?
Speaker 2:I don't know why I did that People can't see it but my arms got involved and suddenly I was King Kong from the 30swhacker luke or whatever like that's a wwf reference for anybody who got it all right.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter. All right, just want to say thank you for coming back on we. We had some fun.
Speaker 3:I like this thank you for having me seriously you're very welcome.
Speaker 2:All right, well, dw anything else no, I think you better see if you can end it correctly all right, we can try, all right.
Speaker 1:well, you know what that means. That means that you guys have been amazing, we have been scolarius and we are out Later, later.