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Ep. 74 Haunted Hillview Manor: America's Most Active Paranormal Hotspot
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What happens when the owner of a genuinely haunted building admits she's terrified to walk its halls alone? Welcome to Haunted Hillview Manor, where the paranormal isn't just a business model—it's an unavoidable daily reality.
Built in 1926 as the Lawrence County Home for the Poor and Aged, this imposing structure in New Castle, Pennsylvania has witnessed countless lives begin and end within its walls. From its origins as a poor farm where residents worked for their keep to its later years as a nursing home where many spent their final days, Hillview Manor has accumulated layer upon layer of emotional and spiritual energy.
We're joined by owner Carrie Triko and investigators Sandy and Dale who reveal what makes this location unique in the paranormal world. While many haunted attractions struggle to produce evidence for visitors, Hillview's staff report that 70-75% of visits include unexplainable experiences—from shadow figures darting across hallways to disembodied voices and physical touches. Sandy shares her chilling encounter with a full-bodied apparition of a man dressed in black, an entity later independently witnessed by an investigator who had no prior knowledge of her experience.
Perhaps most compelling is Carrie's refreshingly honest admission that despite running a haunted attraction, she personally avoids spending time in the building alone. "I put my radio on as loud as I can because I don't want to hear all this area," she confesses, adding credibility to the claims about the property's activity. During our interview, we captured unexplained movement on camera multiple times while the team heard unexplained noises behind them—a live demonstration of why Haunted Hillview Manor has earned its reputation as one of America's most consistently active paranormal locations.
Are you brave enough to walk the halls of Hillview Manor? Visit hauntedhillviewmanor.com to book your investigation or tour—just don't expect Carrie to join you in the building's most active areas!
Thanks for watching what's going on. This is Scalarius, I am John Olsen and with me, as always, is DW, the Dueling Witch, titty Serene.
Speaker 2:Sorry, the bottles aren't as loud. No're not. That was my, not your father's repair.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so that was my yeah, I don't have that right today. Thank you for not um again. Thanks for not selling the the name.
Speaker 2:Appreciate that well, here here's the deal. If anyone wants to uh uh, give me, uh, endorse, endorsements or suggestions. I'm actually running out of my hard cider and hard root beer, so I'm going to have to go to the store, and so here's an opportunity for someone to give a recommendation, if they have it. I have a recommendation for you. Does it have THC in it?
Speaker 1:It does.
Speaker 2:Okay, then I'm out.
Speaker 1:Okay, fine. Whatever, you don't want to take the recommendation. That's cool, dw, from you. I don't, yeah, thank you. So I know that you have been dying to hear this story, so I have to tell you.
Speaker 2:Yes, If you didn't bring it up, I was definitely. I was not going to let you pass this by.
Speaker 1:Okay so go ahead. So the saga of John and Dr Visits has been going on for the past what? Several months now, right, yeah, so first of all, I want to say this since I first started talking about eliminating the thc drinks, drinking mostly water and changing my diet up a little bit, I've lost like 27 pounds.
Speaker 2:So which, by the way, way to go.
Speaker 1:That's, thank you, that's uh, um, that.
Speaker 2:That's a considerable amount. That's something to be proud of.
Speaker 1:It is for a short period of time, right, because March 4th is when I got the blood test done, and it's April something.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, did it quick, but anyway. So I kept talking about. Dw is always like you never go to the doctor, you don't do this, and I'm like, yeah, you're right, because doctors are a waste of time and you know, yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Obviously we are not going to get into the like, we're not going to get endorsements from health care facilities on this show whatsoever, right? Anyway, the other day I was at work and I was doing my work thing, which is I'm a manager of a meat department in a grocery store, okay, and I was cutting chuck to grind into ground chuck, and it just so happened I had Back up hang on.
Speaker 1:You were cutting it how I was slicing it because you're supposed to cut it in a strip, so it goes through the grinder.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, you know, it's just a chuck roll and you just cut it up and take it through, so anyway. So I was cutting it and the knife slipped, and when it slipped it turned and went into my right index finger. Okay, Mind you, I'm left-handed, so therefore you know I didn't.
Speaker 2:So you were cutting your. The knife was in your left hand and it's okay, gotcha, were cutting your.
Speaker 1:The knife was in your left hand and it's okay, gotcha. So it went into my right index finger and it went it. It went good. Um, just to describe the injury, it uh sliced all the way the nail. Oh, geez and well me. I was like, oh, oh damn, oh no. All of a sudden I turned into christopher walken. Oh no, I cut myself, oh damn, anyway. Um, yeah, I cut it pretty bad and I was trying to get the bleeding to stop.
Speaker 1:The meat department looked like a murder scene, which was kind of hilarious. There was like blood spatter all the way across the door into whatever, but anyway. So I one of the guys that works there was like, hey, look at this. And he's like, ah damn, you need stitches. And I was like, oh, okay. So I wrapped it up. I wrapped it up and I was like like, if I can just get the bleeding stop, I'll be fine. That's what I was saying. If I just get the bleeding stop, I'll be fine. So I wrapped it up and I had to keep changing the bandage because it just kept bleeding.
Speaker 1:It was a gusher, um, but I had other things I needed to do before I was able to leave. I had responsibilities, wait, wrapped, what Really really tight, one more time and then when I did that, just kind of left, it Got all my stuff done. Then I was like, hey, if I'm leaving, I'm leaving for the day. I'm not coming back, because you know I live an hour away from work. Well, I left. It was back because you know I live an hour away from work. Well, I left.
Speaker 1:It was like three hours after the cut and I drive to the clinic to get it checked out. I get in there and they start messing with it and they told me they were going to, you know, pull me apart and everything, just to make sure, whatever. And uh, the doctor said wow, and. And I said, yeah, she was like starting to heal. So whatever you've done, you've done well, because it started to whatever.
Speaker 1:I was like wait, hold on. So you're telling me I don't need to be here. And she's like well, I mean, we'll put some glue on it. But if you were here earlier, right after it, it would have been a lot different. And I said, what do you mean? And she's like well, we probably would have like, took off her nail, stitched it, put the nail back on whatever would have been horrible. And I was like, so hold on, I just need you to tell me in front of my queen consort that me doing this coming here was a complete waste of my time. And she goes well, I mean you might need a tetanus shot. And then she looked and she goes nope, you're up to date on that. Yeah, pretty, no, we're just gonna glue it.
Speaker 1:Then I was like, hold on. So what you're telling me is I could have just glued it, like I thought I was going to glue it, and this up here was a complete waste of time. And she's like I'm not going to say waste of time because it wasn't. You know, you need to get it cleaned out, yeah, so they put glue on it, which I would have done anyway, and I have done since, because I busted it open like three times would have done anyway, and I have done since, because I busted it open like three times, um, and I would have been absolutely fine without seeing the doctor. So, um, although she would not say that it was a complete waste of time I am so yeah, okay I did a medical procedure to myself and I was fine, so therefore, there it is.
Speaker 1:No need to go to any doctor whatsoever for anything.
Speaker 2:Well, all right, so there's a few issues I have with this. Okay, First off, what happened to the meat that you were slicing when this happened? Like did you just put it on special because it had you know? Blood on it or no, that I mean, that was gone, if there was anything, and it went bye-bye, so okay see, and here's the thing, you claim that this is a testament to your the uh uh uh uselessness of doctors and how good you are at medical uh procedures or the machinists of john.
Speaker 1:Either way, right well.
Speaker 2:But the, the smarter thing to do would have been not to cut yourself in the first place yeah, it was, you know okay, help that, it was now okay but here's, here's the bigger question and here's what I I've been thinking ever since. A couple of days ago I had this question which finger do you use to stop the podcast, and is that going to be a problem for when we need to end this, because I know you have problems ending early? Is that going to be an issue when you click end?
Speaker 1:I don't have problems ending early. We've discussed this many, many times over many things. There was a couple times where I ended the podcast as mid-sentence, as I was like trying to say but not ending which some might call early.
Speaker 2:You know, if the lady is not satisfied, that's early.
Speaker 1:So okay, um, no, don't just so it's not going to be a problem. No, putting this out there for everyone to hear I am not, there's. No, no, ending early for me, what's that? That's not an issue. Now, the podcast sometimes you know I'll be like and then it just cuts off and whatever. But, as you heard, last week's episode it did not happen. So therefore, in last week's episode went a long time and it, so this didn't happen. So it's not going to happen anyway.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it is that finger. Anybody want to see it right there, I mean nobody's going to see it, but you know whatever. It's right there, all right.
Speaker 2:Don't don't see that. There we go, Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, but yeah, that't see that. There we go. Okay, all right, but yeah, that. So that was. That was the tale of the finger, of the podcast finger, or I called it my comedy finger after when I when I injured it.
Speaker 2:So I was like is that finger funnier than your others? How was that your comedy figure?
Speaker 1:mr phalange. Um no, so I no, it's not any funnier really, but like I said, you know, if it you know, I performed later on that day and if it would have been a bad performance I would have blamed it on my my cut comedy finger.
Speaker 2:So did you really during that performance?
Speaker 1:yeah, just that one. But yeah, so that was that whole thing. Hope everybody was quite entertained by that. I still have nine and three quarters of my finger, so wait, nine and three quarters fingers, one, just yeah, it's still there, just kind of hanging on.
Speaker 2:So now that we've covered that, we need to figure out or explain to people where they can find us.
Speaker 1:Where they can find us.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Just in case they wanted to ask questions about my finger.
Speaker 2:You know, this might be the day. This is your heroic tale, or maybe people want to know how they can avoid going to the doctor too or maybe they want to know what you were doing, so they can stop slicing their fingers okay, I don't know or maybe they want to know what store you work at so they can avoid that store if they have.
Speaker 1:We're not going to go to that so anyway, yeah, but you know you might want to find us like, say, you want to start with DW. You can find DW, dw Serene Comedian on Facebook. You can find me, john Olsen, comedian 2.0, on Facebook. You can find us both together on Facebook. Not a couple, we're not a couple, but you can find us at the Scalarius page. Also, if you want to email us, you can email us, like, chat it up with us. You know you can do that at scalariuspod, at gmailcom or I don't know. You can find us on TikTok, you know you can do that, or on Instagram, also as Scalarius. And then you know, if you want to only if you want to you can go back and listen to every single episode that we have at scolariaspodbuzzsproutcom. You can do that too. And while you're doing that, you know you're hanging out trying to find us and everything. You know. All these Scolarius guys are pretty cool. I like them and you're like. You know what I'm going to represent, scolarius.
Speaker 1:If you wanted to do that, you could go to crowdmadecom forward slash collections, forward slash scolarius pod and you can get a whole crap ton of merch. Yeah, you get hats. Yeah, right now it's summertime, so you can get the regular hat. You don't need the beanie, that's not until winter, but you need to get just like a baseball hat with the sclarus logo on it. Or you know we have t-shirts like dw has a here's the thing t-shirt because you know he says it quite a bit. You'll you'll hear it through throughout the episode. Sometimes I make a tally. You know I'll be like one, two, three, four. I don't go much more than that because I just can't, because I don don't say it a lot, thank you. So you get the here's the thing T-shirt. Also, you can get my favorite T-shirt because I have no idea who John Olsen is. You can get that T-shirt. Or you can get in a hoodie as well. There's dog bowls, dog leashes, dog collars. Also can be used for cats or ferrets.
Speaker 2:I was going to say we call them pet bowls because we don't want to discriminate.
Speaker 1:Maybe a pet, I don't know. You can use the leash on a goldfish, I don't know. Maybe.
Speaker 2:I did see someone walking their cat the other day.
Speaker 1:Fair enough, you can do that. It's all there, all of it. Just go to crowdmadecom, forward slash collection, forward slash ScalariousPod, and you can find any and all that stuff. Or you can just go to crowdmadecom and type in and look for Scalarious. You can do all that, alright.
Speaker 2:Now we've covered all that. I think it's time we get rocking.
Speaker 1:Are we rocking or are we rolling?
Speaker 2:We'll do whichever all right.
Speaker 1:Okay, google it which one we're doing Rocking or rolling, all right? Well, you know, dw, the first thing you need to do is pack your bags, buddy, because we are going on another trip, but this trip, I mean, it's in the US, okay, but it's on the East Coast. So I hope you like steel. I don't know, just maybe steel. Oh, the office is from there, it kind of yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean we could hang out in Scranton. Maybe you know, take another little tiny trip, go to Scranton, check out all the cool, like the steam town mall. You know there's a Chili's there. Now that actually is office.
Speaker 3:Go there.
Speaker 1:That's actually is off the scenes. We can go there. Yeah, we can do all that, but first I think we should go and hang out at a very cool haunted location. What do you think? Yeah, alright, we'll do that. You know, I think we need to go to a very cool haunted attraction. That happened to be a poor farm at one point and it was also a nursing home. Yeah, it's got a lot of haunted history, so to speak, and we have the owner and team of this place right here on our show tonight. So Carrie Dale Sandy from Haunted Hillview Manor how you doing.
Speaker 4:Great, glad you're here Awesome.
Speaker 1:I am happy to talk to you, so I guess I don't know how do you want to start? Do you want to tell a little bit of history about the place and then we can go into what happens there or what Sure.
Speaker 5:Why not?
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's do it All right, carrie. So tell me about Haunted Hillview, manor.
Speaker 5:Well Haunted Hillview Manor is going to be 100 years old next year. It opened its doors in 1926. Well Haunted Hilby Manor is going to be 100 years old next year. It opened its doors in 1926. And prior to that there were three poor farms in the Newcastle area. To give you an idea where Newcastle is, it's on a river, steel town, a lot of old money up there. It's about an hour from Pittsburgh, so we're on the west side of Pennsylvania, not the east side of Pennsylvania, and it's an old town. Hillview was a product of three poor farms. A lot of people don't know what a poor farm is. I tell people it's a homeless shelter that's 24-7, 365 days a year. Except to live there. You have to work there or contribute. That said, three farms came together and Hillview opened, but it it was called. What was it called prior to that?
Speaker 4:you guys um lawrence, county lawrence county home for the poor and aged right so how do it?
Speaker 5:yeah, it didn't get its name until the hill view, until there was a contest, I believe somewhere around the 30s or 40s, and hill view came about. Did I get that right? You guys, I get that. Nope, 50, 1950s, 1920s, 70s. Okay, I'm totally off, um, but hillview. Hillview changed its name a few times, so but what's really odd and unusual about hillview to me is that many of the people that were in the poor farm lived there their whole lives until they were elderly. And it's so unusual to have that kind of a story that people lived there a long time, and I find that really quite quite interesting. And I find that really quite quite interesting.
Speaker 5:It has a rich history. It's creepy up on a hill. It's on 13, 14 acres. It had an orchard. It has a bunker in the back of it. There was a burial ground. Now that's not on our property, it's called the Lawrence County Cemetery. It's still a cemetery. I don't know that they're burying anybody there, but they got in a little bit of trouble. Let me make sure I get this right. You guys got a little bit of trouble and mass burials, shallow graves, probably not really create. You know doing the right thing with how to process, um, our dearly departed, so to speak. So, um, it's, it's kind of interesting there. Uh, there's a morgue on the. There was a morgue on the um property, um surgical units, um, and we had children. When I first came about the property after my mother um bought it at auction, I had no clue there were children there. I knew of a nursing home called Hillview Manor and that was it. We've got a whole bag of everything at Hillview.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's really cool. We have a poor farm. That's literally what. Are you going to say it's probably about three miles from me, dw, maybe on White Bear Avenue? Are you gonna say it's probably about three miles from me, dw, maybe on white bear avenue are you familiar with?
Speaker 2:it yeah, you don't know the farm I, if it's the place I'm thinking of. I've been there a couple of times.
Speaker 1:I just yeah, they used to have a farm. Um, they used to have it be like the haunted farm or something like that, like around halloween. It's over by I mean it. It's, uh, it's past 36, so is um, it has the.
Speaker 2:The one I'm, the place I'm thinking of, has had like art shows and stuff there. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I have been there.
Speaker 1:So and that place has, uh, the burial ground right there, but nothing is, there's nobody, that's uh marked or anything like several thousand, I guess, people just buried in a little. I mean that place is not very big. I mean the cemetery is I don't even know if it's 3,000 square feet, it's not very big at all. So there was a lot of people there, yeah. So poor farm. I know about them Well for the most part, and I know that there's a possibility of some paranormal activity happening. So what led you so? Did you know the place was haunted when you purchased it, or no, was it not at all okay no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5:Um, my mother had an interest in old buildings like this. Our family had done some old schools and converted them to apartments and and they were. The buildings were in the 1930s, mostly early mid 30s, and so my mother saw this building going up for auction. Little old lady goes to Newcastle and I are away from Pittsburgh and buys a building one Saturday morning my brother Buck Hilder, and with the intent of turning them into condos or apartments, like we had done. It was going to be a rather large project.
Speaker 5:The building had been shut down a year prior to it going up for auction and unfortunately she passed away shortly after purchasing the building. She passed away shortly after purchasing the building and while we were dealing with the estate, figuring out what to do, my brother vowing that he was not going to do apartments in Newcastle and have to take care of all kinds of other stuff too we were relieved of some of the copper in our building, so to speak, by some pirates of sorts, and it rendered the building pretty much useless. And God bless them. I hope they got something out of the deal. And it really was a headache. And we were approached, my family was approached my brother and I about by somebody local who had done research on the building. There's a lot of like newspaper articles and you know um different people that had experiences, that had worked there and police officers and all this and and this gal came and wrote my brother a letter or got him on the phone and said do you know? Your building is haunted. We said like Ghostbusters.
Speaker 3:That's all we knew.
Speaker 5:We're just business people and we're like what is going on here. So she ended up doing some early investigative work, later on rented the building for us to start ghost hunting and later on my brother and I kind of took things over um, and it's grown to what it is today, which is a very odd place to come and visit, and Sandy and Dale are one of quite a few um staff members that we have that do tours and investigations and special events and, um, it's quite a mix of stuff at our.
Speaker 1:So we're gonna go kind of all over the place here, but that's okay, I like. I like going all over the place. It makes it a little bit more fun. But I want to ask about the tours first. Um, are the tours strictly haunted tours or is it like if you don't want to deal with the paranormal, can you go in there and have a tour of the building, about its historical factor and everything?
Speaker 5:yeah, sandy, why don't you tell them about the day tours and stuff that you do?
Speaker 4:mostly okay. Um, during the day you can do that you can book a one and a half hour tour, which is just the history of the building and we take you around and show you the building. And then if you wanna investigate paranormally, then you can book a three hour day tour and then you get an hour and a half tour and then an hour and a half on your own to investigate.
Speaker 5:And like that first hour and a half we're giving you the history of where we have a lot of paranormal activity and known individuals that lived at hillview documented um, pictures of many of them, um, and artifacts and and stuff. So it I like the history of the building and the and in general, newcastle's of an old town, um, and we're south of of the central part of newcastle, we're in shenango township. It still has the same zip code, so to speak, but um, it's a very palatial and it, it it looks ominous at times up on the hill, but the best way to get that just the tour is, like sandy said, a day tour.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so this is. You said paranormal hotspots in the building. So I'm just going to let. Nobody can see this. Obviously, everybody can hear it, but nobody can see it. Carrie, you're at home, but Sandy and Dale I'm glad too, Sandy. I'm going to come back to that in just a second. Sandy and Dale are sitting in a hallway. I can see the hallway. Dw can see the hallway. So I have to ask that hallway that you're sitting in is that a hotspot? Yeah?
Speaker 4:Absolutely. This is the most haunted area of the building, even though it's the newest. It's a new addition. It's actually the most haunted area.
Speaker 1:Really. So what kind of stuff happens there?
Speaker 3:No, you muted me I unmuted.
Speaker 3:A lot of things that happen here in One North. We get shadow figures that cross the hall. We get shadow figures that will come out of the room and come up the hall a little bit and then go into another room. You hear a lot of metal equipment like heart monitors and stuff like that and just a lot of moaning like people were in pain because the very end of the hall was like the most critical when it was a nursing home, like that was pretty much hospice at the end of the hall and then the nurse's station behind me. You can kind of see it, I'm trying to figure out how it is. It's back here. It's a little white thing. That's the nurse's station there, the most critical of the patients who weren't ready to move on. I guess, for lack of a better term, they were directly across from that nurse's station. So, um, yeah, this is, uh, my favorite hallway, the the entire building.
Speaker 1:So is there a day that you are there, specifically in in the hallway area, that things don't happen?
Speaker 3:Um, I mean, I, I can't say for sure, but um, I mean, I guess we, we kind of just do this on on their time, and you know their terms. Um, you know, like, uh, like when I I actually correct tour guys when they say, oh yeah, you know, if you do this, you will, and I say, don't ever say you will Cause, cause then they expect it. Um, you know, you have a better, you have a good shot, is what I'd say. Something like, something like that you got a good shot of seeing this shadow figure, but um, yeah, it just depends on what you're into so my staff laughs at me because I don't ghost hunt but I definitely get creeped out in this building and stuff's weird.
Speaker 5:And two years ago, down at the very end of that hallway which is a long, long hospital hallway you know, these are rooms with patient they would have two or three beds in them, a bathroom and all that and this, this came on in the seventies, but we was. I think it was Halloween night or somewhere right near Halloween. We had a lot of people in the building and we were just cleaning up. I was cleaning up to go home. It was about 11 o'clock, 1130.
Speaker 5:And some gal runs in and said I got something on my video feed and it was a full apparition figure at the very end of the hallway. I mean there's 30 rooms down here down the hallway and at the end of the hallway they had a dark, full humanoid looking figure that moved across and then moved back and we we have a we do an actual scare house out back in our field in some outbuildings near the cemetery and the bunker and I'm I'm always the skeptic and she shows us this video and I said, well, hold on, I'm not the person to judge here and I gathered several of our staff and I said you know what, Go shoot the video again exactly where you were, just so we can see what it looked like and what you caught again. And we put them side by side and I was like, oh gosh, there's something there. It was terrible, In my opinion. It was terrible and everybody's like, wow, this is so cool and I'm like, get me out of here.
Speaker 5:Um, so we we started questioning whether it was somebody outside. Maybe somebody came in from a different door, which the doors are closed, and we knew it. And I'm radioing people like were you down there? Were you down one north? Where's the? You wasn't no carrie, nobody's there. I was like, oh my gosh, so we get some really crazy stuff and sometimes it's really a big deal. And I said, well, I think you should send us that footage because I think you're gonna win our best, best evidence award this year because it was good.
Speaker 1:So that's the kind of stuff we get down one north and it's freaky so I was sitting here thinking I'm like, well, you know, these guys are sitting there, the cameras behind them, you know, like the cameras pointing down the hallway and everything. I'm like what are the chances that you know we're sitting here chatting throughout this or whatever? And I see movement or whatever. Um, I I've had a couple of episodes where people were in a haunted location and I'd see something and I'd be like, oh, that's weird. They were able to debunk it, so it was, you know whatever. Like I'm just kind of hoping that you know peek over dale's shoulder there and I, I see somebody you know coming at me or whatever.
Speaker 1:I think it would be kind of fun, um, and then dw would be able to say that he witnessed paranormal activity and no I, I would completely dismiss it.
Speaker 2:You know you would say see something? And I'd be like no, that, that nothing.
Speaker 5:And see now, dale does. He's part of one of our um, well, two, two of our, our employees do the lives every one Wednesday night and Dale's one of them and they're one of the best ones to debunk because they'll have their foot. Now. Usually the lights are out and they'll have some lighting here and there, but I can't tell you how many times. I'll watch them on the live and I'm like is something there and everybody's texting the same time and then they're trying to debunk and we get a lot of stuff that they'll say no, that's a spider on the camera or what other things do you guys debunk? You've got dale sandy.
Speaker 4:Um, I mean, they'll work sometimes orbs, but it's a link or dust.
Speaker 5:People think it's orbs yeah, and but I can tell you there there's. There are enough days that they're. You know, dale's got every kind of equipment known to man, I swear, and it's going down the hallway blinking and people are handheld things and spirit boxes and whatever all these things do. I kind of know how they work. They definitely know how they work and I have to say that we're a little amazed. I mean, we did have somebody on, we had a celebrity of sorts on Saturday and he's looking for footage because something was a coin, was was thrown at him. Is that what happened saturday night? And yeah, dave schrader like I'm not 100.
Speaker 1:Sure, I think dave listens to the program, probably to make fun of me and dw, but that's cool. But I think, um, he could make fun of me all he wants, that's's fine, he's a cool guy though.
Speaker 5:He's a good ghost hunter. I don't know what was happening Saturday night, but they got a lot of stuff and he's like Carrie, can you send us footage? The room we didn't he was in, we did not have footage, but whatever he got, what's his recorder, dave? What kind of Dale, what kind of recorder does he have? Some funky recorder?
Speaker 3:Yeah, the DR-60. Sorry, I set my camera up so that you can see that one north. Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it looks cool. I'm enjoying the view.
Speaker 5:I'm sitting here, my eyes are peeled on it because I want to see if something happens and I want to be able to say hey, dw watching it yeah it's still nothing yeah, you know, my thing is, when people ask me, is it going to happen, I'm like don't expect anything and be in more than likely something's going to happen. I people get all kinds of sounds they're talking to there's, uh, there's spirit box and I mean, sandy, what do you guys get down at one North? I know there's some room everybody's been talking about with some mirror or something.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there's a room 144 with something. Something happened in that room and if you go take a picture in that mirror with a flash, your face comes totally. It looks really weird. I had like a long tongue coming out of my mouth, like a red tongue, like long, like a lizard. Somebody had no face, somebody else had, like their eye was drooping. It's really weird and in these rooms.
Speaker 5:They're full length mirrors on the wall, like between stations where their beds would be, so they're kind of standard rooms on. You know where, you know how you go in a hospital room and there's a light above the head of somebody's bed. There's they're still there with pool stations and stuff like that. Now, other parts of the building don't quite have all that because it's much older part of the building, but one North is still somewhat intact with certain things and it's just kind of freaky with some of the stuff that happens in different rooms.
Speaker 5:And then, of course, on our live or people write us or email us and say my family member spent time here when they were an elderly patient and they were in this room. So staff will go out and try to contact and see if they get stuff. And you'd be surprised what former nurses and employees have told us about the building and the creepy things that happened to them while they worked there. And it's kind of neat when you still have people that are living while they worked there. Um, and it's kind of neat when you you still have people that are living that either work there or had loved ones there. So that's kind of rich for us, and, and and. Getting the story straight. You know, or right, not just like you know, we have this empathy, you know, make it, uh, beefing it up to make it better or whatever.
Speaker 1:You don't have to do that, just get it straight and yeah, give it straight is right.
Speaker 4:I'm hearing noises right now and there's nobody in here but me and dale, and I hear noises coming from behind me better you than me keep that mic on.
Speaker 1:I want to hear them. Um, so, all right, okay, I I want to take this and step back, I guess a little bit behind the curtain of obscalarius, whatever. So I reached out to you, carrie, and I was like, hey, I want to do an episode on this, really cool. I was like, I believe, uh, how I and I was like what a haunted nursing home need to talk to you, or something like that. It probably wasn't exactly like that, because that is more excited than I ever get, but anyway. So I did reach out and I'm like, hey, haunted nursing home, we should chat.
Speaker 3:And you were very cool. I was skeptical, chat and um you were very cool.
Speaker 1:I'm skeptical. You were very cool and you called me and you're like this is where I. I love this because I want, I want to talk about this specifically. You called me and you were like a paranormal and comedy podcast. What do you do? Make fun of the paranormal? And I was like wow, no, no, we don't do that yeah, but that was a great question because I was worried.
Speaker 5:I was like what do you? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1:right? No, it's, it's more. I'm quite interested in it. I I've lived in it. I've had a a ha. I've lived in it. I've lived in haunted homes. I've had experiences my whole entire life. I was a ghost hunter, all that stuff. Dw does not believe in any of this shit and I'd rather the same way, totally I understand.
Speaker 1:Yes so it works right. That's why the dynamic of me and him I understand. Yes, yeah, so it makes it. It works right. That's why the dynamic of me and him and the show and everything it works out. But I just wanted to say, like you asked a question that I'd never had to answer before but at the same time made me think about reaching out to people and how I do reach out to them and say, say, hey, this is Paranormal Comedy podcast, blah, blah, blah. I'm wondering if they think I'm going to, or me and DW are going to, roast them the whole entire time. Oh yeah, so when?
Speaker 5:I was coming from Was we have a lot of people that want to film at Hillview Right Podcasts mostly film, and and everybody wants to ghost hunt and put it all out there on YouTube and all that. And we've had some interesting YouTube channels saying all kinds of stuff. Like this was an insane asylum and there was all this terrible stuff happening and if you go on our tour, there were some very unfortunate things that did happen from time to time, but for the most part, this was a nice place to be, to be Okay, um, it's had a rich history and, um, you know, I I I'm a former school teacher and usually when a high school or college student says I want to do a project or a documentary and blah, blah, blah, I was approached by someone to do something on mental illness and the treatment of patients and all of this stuff and I'm like hold on. Um, first of all, this isn't a mental institution.
Speaker 5:Um, do I think there were people that were down on their luck and sometimes people that don't have a home, have some some issues to work through in their lives, and do I think there were very ill people here physically, maybe mentally too, and I said, you know, I really want this to be respectful and that's where I I get really protective of this place. And so when I heard that and I was like, okay, tell me your story, tell me who you are and let me decide from there, and it I I think you know, once you said I've lived in a home that's haunted. I've done this, this is what I'm about. I was like, okay, it just so happens.
Speaker 1:I'm a comedian as well, so that's where the bread and butter comes from. Right there Is that we had that comedic. I guess overtone Angle or undertone Angle.
Speaker 2:Undertone yeah, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1:It's our gimmick. Baby, it's our gimmick.
Speaker 2:Definitely not impressions, but you know.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so, anyway, I wanted to share that a little bit with carrie. Um, that our conversation that we had, because I thought it was really cool and just you know if anybody's listening to this, no, we're not going to make fun of you, but we might have some fun, you know, just saying throwing it out there. Um, oh, there's a lot of stuff I have to ask about this place. Okay, so, carrie, have you ever been in the building by yourself?
Speaker 5:Unfortunately, many times.
Speaker 1:Okay, and what's the percentage of times that you've been by yourself, that something's happened to you been by yourself?
Speaker 5:that something's happened to you. Um, I'm not collecting evidence. Okay, not looking to collect evidence. I think things follow me sometimes.
Speaker 5:Okay, I think I catch something out of the corner of my eye and it totally unglues me okay I do hear a lot of noises when I come in at times, um, and I just kind of say, could y'all just stop, because it just is not my thing. Now said, I'm running a haunted property, go figure. So there is a couple places in the building I'd rather not have to walk through and unfortunately one of them is main corridor to where these guys are standing right now and it goes to the back of our building and I have to go through there and it just doesn't work for me and it didn't work from. I put down a dog two years ago, sadly, and he didn't like this part of the building and they know, they know they definitely know, and we've had other pets come through the building that don't like these areas.
Speaker 5:But one of the places I don't like is called the Time Clock Hall. It's a real short little hallway that leads right to this hallway that Sandy and Dale are on, and I keep thinking I see something out of the corner of my eye and I don't want to see it. Now, everybody that comes in my building wants to see that. Am I looking to take a picture of it? No, do I want to talk to it? No, so, that said, I don't have evidence other than how creepy I feel and how I want to get out of there. And no, I don't want to be in the building by myself, and Sandy knows I will call her and say want to go, he'll be with me today.
Speaker 1:That's code for carrie's yes all right, so I I have to ask you this then so have you ever been through a haunted attraction like uh, universal studios, has the universal haunted or whatever, or like the um, the haunted houses and things like that? Have you ever been through those, carrie?
Speaker 5:In my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Two.
Speaker 1:Okay, All right. So this is where I'm getting at with this. I think I'm a wimp.
Speaker 5:That's what I am.
Speaker 1:So what I'm asking basically with that is you know, when you go through there, you know you're there, you're excited, you want to be scared, but you're also kind of unnerved at the same time. Is that the kind of the feeling that you get when you're in the Hillview Manor? It's kind of like the unnerving it's totally different.
Speaker 5:I've been to two haunted houses in my life early 20s I, when I was in my twenties well, I won't tell you how old, I am now a little older and within the last maybe four or five years, okay, very good haunt. I had met the owners at one point, I think they put out a really good product and scares, and I knew I was going to go and get scared and jump and scream and do all that stuff. And I did all of it, okay, and I said, gosh, I'm glad that's over with, because I don't like to be scared. And Dale was with me, remember, you were there and they all laugh at me because I'm a wimp.
Speaker 5:But this is different. You know a haunted house, you know you're going to get scared, right? This is a place that's just empty and serene and stuff was going bump in the night and stuff was moving around and stuff is. It just is totally different. I don't know why. That scares me more, okay, or it just unnerves me beyond belief and everybody's like but that's why we're here and I'm like good, you stay, I'm going home. So they will tell you this is the truth.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm going to get.
Speaker 1:I'm going to get back to you, terry because I want to ask you like business things about it, not like you know what's your profit is and everything that's kind of my business. I'm gonna get back to you because I want to ask you like business things about it, not like you know what your profit is and everything that's kind of my business, but you know business things about it. So, sandy and dale, I need to know since you're there all the time and obviously you're literally in the heart of the paranormal activity right now what, what is the scariest thing that's happened to you? One at a time, obviously, but what's the scariest thing that's ever happened to you in that building?
Speaker 4:okay, one north where we are. I was very new here, a new tour guide, and it was around three o'clock in the morning. I was locking up and I went all the way down this hallway to the right and there's a room, the last room. When I looked in there I saw a man sitting on the bed, all dressed in black, and I got so frightened that I ran to get my co-worker and I said you have to come with me. I saw him twice. Then we find out from ghost hunters that there was a priest in that room that was dying of brain cancer. Every time I go in that room my head hurts me so bad I can't explain it. So that's, that's the scariest thing that happened to me here wow, okay.
Speaker 4:So before I get to dale, I have to ask you this when you say you heard from ghost hunters, are you talking about like a group of ghost hunters, or are you talking about like taps, like jason hawes was there and talked to you, or no, um, I'm talking about, like, a lot of people who come here, and then we did have a youtuber here and I, when I gave him the tour, I didn't tell him about that room, because that room is not on the tour and it just happened to me and I said nothing to him. And when he came and investigated, he saw the same thing I did.
Speaker 1:Wow, okay, and that's right down the hallway that I'm looking at right now.
Speaker 4:Yep, On there. It'll be on your right right hand side. The last room on the right, and that's was critical care. Basically, down that hall was people who really weren't going to make it. Right, I'll be damned so that was that scared me, like I was really scared. So that scared me, I was really scared. I was wondering if I was going to continue the work here after that.
Speaker 1:That's how scared I got. Well, that's a full-body apparition, you saw. I mean, they say Holy Grail, that's the Holy Grail.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I saw it twice, two different occasions, and now I won't go in there.
Speaker 1:Do you go buy it?
Speaker 4:I go buy it because I have to. But I won't go in there. Do you go by it? I go by it because I have to, but I want to go in it.
Speaker 1:We have the door shut now. If you go by it, do you see anything in there?
Speaker 4:The door is shut now, so I don't see anything.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Alright.
Speaker 4:I could just walk to the front of the door and I immediately get a headache.
Speaker 1:Wow. Yeah, that's probably not something you want to do. All right, dale. How about you Go ahead, dale, you're on.
Speaker 3:Nothing really scares me, but the most recent thing that had happened to me was in this hallway. I went down to lock the doors at the end of the night and I got. I got to about the nurse's station there where, where my phone's sitting, where, from the view you're seeing, I was coming back from that end of the hall up towards like where my phone is, and I could hear running behind me and it sounded like a human being running after me. So I turned around to make sure there was nothing human or living coming at me and it kind of stopped right before I turned around. So I walked about 10 more feet, got to about where we're set up right now and I can hear it again and as I'm hearing it. I turned real fast and it's still running but there was no one there and I was like, well, at least I know it was a spirit, not a human or somebody living. So it didn't scare me. I just I was glad it was a spirit.
Speaker 1:So did you? Did you feel anything like? Like? Did it go by you, you know? Or was it just? I don't know, I mean it was.
Speaker 3:I mean it was like running towards me and when I turned around I could still hear it, but it like died away, so I didn't. I don't know if it like ran into a room, I don't know, but that was the latest thing that's happened.
Speaker 5:I mean, a lot of people get their hair played with and people every once. A lot of people get their hair played with and and people. Every once in a while people get scratched, don't they? That kind of unnerves me a little bit every every once in a while. Yeah, and people get touched on the shoulders, back of their head, guys get locked in the bathroom somebody pushed me on the second floor, but when I tell people it wasn't a malicious push?
Speaker 4:it was like somebody was playing a game with me, like tag, you're it, and they pushed me. I thought it was Dale playing jokes on me, but he wasn't there.
Speaker 3:I can't blame him for everything. I'm sorry, tag out of nowhere is not fun Just saying Especially if there's nobody around you, no what the hell was that?
Speaker 1:that's mv. Yeah, dw you. What would you do? You'd pee yourself, say cripers or something.
Speaker 2:I don't know I don't say that in normal life. Why am I gonna start saying it at that moment?
Speaker 1:that's good shit, all right, so wow, I mean it sounds like you just have. I'm assuming where they're sitting is, like I said, a hot spot, but is there activity throughout the whole building and all the grounds?
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:Or okay, Even outside Wow.
Speaker 5:In the back, how many entities are really on the tour? I mean, last time I counted it was like maybe 13 to 15 or more. What do you? I think it's close to like 16 now. Yeah, I mean some people go to places with like one ghost, but that might be a house or something. I mean this is a massive property of close to 80 000 square feet, I think, or whatever it is. I mean it's a big building and, um, you know, we just had somebody say, oh my, my, my aunt or somebody worked here. Can, and you know we just had somebody say, oh my, my, my aunt or somebody worked here. Can you see if you know whatever, and my, you know, my grandfather worked here, or they, they, they lived here, and can you try to connect? And those are kind of cool to us because then we try to get as much information to just see maybe what part of the building they, they were, they had a room in, and then try to connect. And it's kind of cool, you know, and you'd be surprised what we get.
Speaker 2:That is cool.
Speaker 1:I need to know about, like, the business side of this, and what I mean by that is like okay, so it's a haunted attraction for those who want to come in and investigate after tours, or are you allowing teams to come in and spend the night for a rate, and things like that so um, we go to about 3 am on a public investigation as well as a private okay um, we start anywhere from six or seven o'clock and go till three, but we have, we have the ability to do a three-hour tour, six-hour tour, and explore sorry tour and explore some, sometimes frames, just let you explore, because some people have been there so many times they don't want to keep taking the tour.
Speaker 5:Um, but there's a lot of options for people. Um, you can't sleep here overnight. Typically we're going to go till midnight or three o'clock, depends on what tour option you picked. Um, teenagers, uh, cannot come in by themselves. Um, until you're 18. You have to have a parent or guardian, you know, and you need to be with them at all times, because we're in the dark, you don't know who you're investigating with. We don't know these people either, you know. So teenagers need to be accompanied by an adult, which is fine, you know, and we even do a teen hunt, but it's during the day and around Halloween and stuff, and it's a lot of fun, and parents are on the tour with them and it's a fun day, but for the most part, adults only.
Speaker 1:That's what I like. Adults only Keep the kids out there's a time and a place yeah yeah, we we really have on a public investigation.
Speaker 5:We've had a couple young ones where they have to talk to me personally and you know, the school teacher that I used to be comes out and I start talking about the rules and what we got to do to protect children and all this stuff and, and you know, mama bear comes out, you know, kind of thing.
Speaker 1:So okay, you have the ghost hunts that you can do until 3 am. Or you know, whatever, what do you? How many people are usually there during a public ghost hunt, like, how do how many?
Speaker 5:It varies it varies, public ghost hunt, like, how do how many? It varies, it varies, um. We've had some quiet little nights where we might have five to ten people in here, and boy are they happy because they're like woohoo, we just got a good deal, because a private investigation will allow you to have 10 to 15 people in here of your own choice for a price, but a public investigation you're with. Whoever signs up for that night, I will tell you we're very busy around Halloween, just like haunted locations. Everybody thinks it's more haunted in October, and that is not the case. It is, yes, haunted, very haunted, but it's very haunted at October, and that is not the case. It is, yes, haunted, very haunted, but it's very haunted all the time, um, even during the day.
Speaker 5:Yeah, one of our tour guides started coming when I think he was 17 ish and he came every Sunday paid like 2525 back then and he came every Sunday and if he was lucky, there might only be three people in the building, a couple and himself and it was like, woohoo, I got the cheapest seat I could get, right, and I got everything. And we tell people, day tours don't have as many people on as a night tour, right? So it's a great way to experience the building very inexpensively and, yes, it's haunted during the day. That said, the most we've ever had in the building for an event and it's usually when a tour group comes in and they do all kinds of stuff or a big headliner I think the most we ever had in the building was 90, but I would say on a on a good night, the average is between 25 and 30 on a really good night, okay.
Speaker 1:Hey, dale, did you hear something behind you? Yes, okay, so one, two, three, four something behind you? Uh, yes, okay, so one, two, three, four. Um fourth door on the right, I saw movement down below the brown um, you know the, the railing or whatever it was about coinciding with you turning around that just, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I was listening to carrie and I just happened to see, um, the movement there. Uh, because your, uh, your nameplate says mr hillview, but okay so, but there was movement above the w of the hillview. That's what I was seeing and I was like, oh shit, there it is. And yeah, so there was. Uh, it's probably I can see a wheelchair there, and then all the way down and right about there, is that 144 okay, that's room 145 uh to you. Are you to your left right now?
Speaker 3:yep, yep, right around there okay, yeah, um, I I always see something not this way, like right in here say I'm glad, I'm glad you're able to see it yeah, so, um, like I said, uh just to um, you can see.
Speaker 1:I mean, obviously I'm going to see movement. That's not supposed to happen. And you have one person. You have two people in one camera, one person in the have one person. You have two people in one camera, one person in the other, one person in the other and one that's empty. And there's movement on the empty camera, obviously that I know that there's, you know whatever. And then so um, dale's uh inquisitive turning around at that very moment kind of made me go okay, yep, there's something, something up.
Speaker 5:So well, you know the last couple of years, the last couple years, I don't know what color Was it dark? Wasn't there something kind of floating around one north that was kind of like a white misty thing towards the ground, or what was going on, the last that everybody seemed to be capturing on video and stuff.
Speaker 4:Some people were seeing a nurse dressed like in like from the 50s, like an old nurse's uniform. A lot of people see her down here okay, it wasn't a naughty nurse?
Speaker 5:no, I would have known yeah, but wasn't there something that that people were getting that was more towards the ground? Was this towards the ground? It was this towards the ground that you were seeing, john, or what, what was it?
Speaker 1:uh, halfway, about halfway up the wall, yep roughly.
Speaker 5:You know wherever the, you know how they have the, the railings along the side right for people to walk it was right about the railing side there yeah yeah, dale's walking down there right now. Um, I don't know. I mean I it's weird, because I'll watch them on the live every once in a while and, like I said, I'll, I'll be texting the same thing and people, other people are seeing.
Speaker 5:It's like, almost immediately, everybody's saying did you see that here, did you see? And and it's all coming in. That's kind of weird to me. Um, I guess that's what it's supposed to be, but it's just like because I would say I'm not seeing it. I'm not seeing it, or you know, am I making this up or what's going on? You know?
Speaker 1:I'm digging this because the dale, like it was valid, that was a valid thing. He was reacting to what I was seeing and I was like boom and DW's still over there, going like I didn't see nothing well, I should warn you the last time we did a podcast where he thought he saw something, it turned out to be keys yep, but there was no keys down there. He went down there and looked there's nothing there.
Speaker 4:I was just saying, that was pretty cool, there was some validity here.
Speaker 1:So that was pretty cool. There was some validity there, because he reacted as about I was going to say, hey, like there's whatever. So pretty awesome. Wow, I'm impressed. Dw, do you want to pack up and really go to Pennsylvania?
Speaker 4:I guess well.
Speaker 5:You and I will go get ice cream. They can stay in the building there we go.
Speaker 2:I was going to say Carrie is a huge advocate for not even setting foot in the building. So I think she's going to be on the other side, okay.
Speaker 1:So, first of all, dw is very food motivated. Okay, like you offered ice cream, it's happening.
Speaker 2:There was like we're still looking for a haunted bakery.
Speaker 1:There we go in this show is to do the podcast live from a haunted bakery, just so he can have a donut and then the.
Speaker 2:the whole episode is going to be John, did you see that? Did you see that? And me going? No, but this donut is delicious Well there is.
Speaker 5:What is it? May's Donuts? That local place that makes their homemade donuts will find you amazing.
Speaker 3:There you go, all right.
Speaker 5:That might work.
Speaker 3:I'd have to bring. I'd have to bring Orums.
Speaker 5:Oh, yes, absolutely Another another well-known bakery down not far from Hillview, oh wow.
Speaker 2:See. So I would. I would see nothing and consider it a success because I had you know two and a half donuts Exactly. There we go.
Speaker 5:Okay, I will tell you a story. Do we have time, or was it?
Speaker 1:we're fine.
Speaker 5:So, um, I can totally relate to you, um, because dw, um, my brother was a total non-believer and and I say was so, um, I lost my brother a few years back, bit tragically, and won't get into that, but I had to give a tour about six months after he had passed and I was here again, right at that nurses station that you're looking at, with about 15 people and a little school teacher psychic, go believe, go figure and she was the sweetest, sunniest, most wonderful gal. And we're talking about the nurse who kind of ruffles papers and has a patient across the hallway, build boots and all the activity that happens right at that nurse's station that you're looking at. And this little girl says to somebody is somebody not taking their medication? Somebody needs to take their medication? And she's pointing to this guy and he's like she goes, are you taking medication? And he goes nope, she goes, are you supposed to be taking medication? And she, he goes, oh yeah, and she goes, the nurse is telling me to tell you take your medication. And then the next thing she said is somebody having trouble with their feet? And nobody's saying anything, is somebody having problems with something near their feet? And I was like, oh my gosh, I had just coming out of boot from Achilles tendon surgery and I said, okay, that's me.
Speaker 5:And she leaned in and said this is for you. You're working too hard, you're all stressed out, you're really nervous, you're this, you're this. And I said, yeah, I know. And then she looked at me kind of she knew my brother but didn't only met him a few times. And she looked at me and she said this is for you. And she leaned in and said he wants me to tell you he believes. Now, we never had that code between my brother and I. I never told people that. Well, I would tell people as I started a tour, see that guy outside having a cigarette. He didn't believe in any of this stuff. And people would laugh. And he gets so mad at me and say why do you tell people that I go? Because it's the truth, says that to me and it freaked me out. So for the non-believer, you just never know. Just saying I'm hoping.
Speaker 1:I'm hoping one day we're gonna go into a place and he and he's gonna have that experience that he can't, that he can't explain. That's's the thing, because he's going to try to pull up everything. Well, it was a breeze. It was a breeze that came through the doorway on the left, or something like that, and he's going to try to explain it. I want him to have that experience where something happens and he can't explain it.
Speaker 5:And I'm going to say, DW, better you than me.
Speaker 4:Well, this is the place to come, because I was on the fence before I started working here and I'm not on the fence anymore. I'm 130%.
Speaker 1:believe now the fence anymore. I'm 130, believe now, and the frequency of the hauntings is is it? I'm just going to ask this. I'm going to see how many of you, or what the numbers are between all of you. So what, in your opinion, is the frequency of the haunting meaning? Like your opinion, is the frequency of the haunting meaning, like the percentage of times that you walk in the door, that you're, that you are going to have an experience?
Speaker 3:uh, me personally I would say it's somewhere roughly around 70 75 okay about the same all.
Speaker 1:So three times out of four Yep, right, yep, roughly Okay. How about you, carrie?
Speaker 5:I'm just creeped out all the time, so I'm just I don't think I'm a good source. Okay, so just the building. It's just creepy, and when I start thinking something's following me, then I think it really is following me and I don't want to think about it. There you go. If they know this, they laugh at me. They still, even though I say this a million times, they laugh at me and it's, it's what it is. So you know, I started my own paranormal group with my, my web developer and it's called scaredy cat paranormal dw. You can be a part of it if you want, as the chief skeptic.
Speaker 2:But, seriously.
Speaker 5:We made t-shirts and everything. Scaredy Cat, Paranormal. That's what we are. There you go.
Speaker 1:That's funny because you would have to not really be that scared to do this.
Speaker 5:We went on TikTok and said we don't even want to ghost hunt. That's exactly what we said. And the weird thing is stuff does every once in a while right. Maybe three times I've seriously gone ghost hunting with a few people.
Speaker 4:Things happen we try to get her to come more often, but she won't no see, is this good, Is this good?
Speaker 5:And they're like yeah, carrie, it's good, are we getting some? Yeah, we're getting some.
Speaker 1:That's funny.
Speaker 5:It's just I'm not a good source, folks. I'm just I'm not it, I'm not it.
Speaker 1:You just write the checks.
Speaker 1:I do tell people that, yes, there you go that's, that's how it goes, that's awesome, okay. So, yeah, I don't know man it, I could talk about this all night. We probably shouldn't, because, um, yeah, we just shouldn't, we shouldn't talk about it all night. So I'm going to go with this. I guess, if people want to go there and they want to hang out and they want to do all the fun stuff oh, wait, hold on. There's one more thing I want to talk about before I go into this, and here it is, because I was this. What happened? I was going to say, if they want to do this, this, this, I was like, oh, question that I thought of earlier. And here it is. Do you guys do a haunted house thing there around Halloween? You do, we sure do. Okay, this is fun, little, interesting, little side mission here. So if you guys are doing haunted house things, what does the activity do during that?
Speaker 4:it's off the chain.
Speaker 5:Go, go ahead, sandy dale go ahead.
Speaker 4:Well, I'll say something. I'll have dale some. We do a haunted like a jump scare in the back of the building and we said that in the back it's haunted also. Well, we have actors that you know haunt back there and they see things, shadows and everything going through the woods out there too. So it's haunted, yeah.
Speaker 5:So we have a field scare and we have another building that we use. It's like a big, huge garage that we have a haunt maze in there and then a field scare. And we have another building that we use. It's like a big, huge garage that we have a haunt maze in there and then a field scare. It's not in Hillview Manor, it's out behind, near. There is a bunker that goes underground and there is a cemetery, not on the property, like I said before, but, like Sandy said, it was creeping our actors out because stuff was running around and it wasn't critters. It wasn't critters, wow.
Speaker 5:Then we had some employees catch um by taking some pictures that they had put up some balloons um, at the end of a haunt and they were taking pictures and, lo and behold, there was a disembodied face that showed up in the middle of these balloons and we tried to recreate it, recreate it. We did a YouTube video on it and we can't explain it at all. So it's weird, because we're working back there putting the haunt together and there's all this racket on the other side of the building. I'm like do we have critters in here? What's wrong? And they're like no carry, no carry.
Speaker 5:I'm like could we just stop. So I throw the radio on as loud as I can because I don't want to hear all this area. Not, it's terrible, it's terrible. And're like let's get all our equipment out here so it ramps up, just like it's like well, on the tour, they. They tell you that there were a lot of parties at Hillview for the nursing home people. They'd celebrate Halloween and Easter and all this stuff, and they put up decorations, like a lot of places do. So they like a party right. So when we have our scare house, it's like having a party.
Speaker 1:So they're coming out to support the cause.
Speaker 3:That's pretty awesome Some people think it Go ahead Dale, go ahead Dale, and we'd still decorate, decorate, we'd like to decorate that's yeah, that's good yeah that is good.
Speaker 1:I I like the idea that you do a haunted house basically in a haunted location. That's just it. It screams hell house.
Speaker 5:To me it's a movie and it's pretty badass people get excited because they come and they think they're going to be in the building, even though we advertise that this is outside the building, this is behind the building, and then we'll also sell you a tour of the building right after you go through. And they're like sell you a tour of the building right after you go through. And they're like, oh my gosh, you know like how cool is this? That the place is really haunted and there's a haunted house behind it. And then when you start talking to us and we're like, yeah, we're getting creeped out back there too, as we're haunting you, stuff's haunting us, that's just. You know, that's a little too much for me, but you know, here again, it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1:I dig every single bit of hillview. I'm telling you that right now I want to go. So do you guys go hunting?
Speaker 5:with dale and sandy.
Speaker 1:All right, tell me how y'all did me and dw can go ghost hunting with dale and sandy we can do, do it.
Speaker 3:We're waiting for you.
Speaker 1:You might be waiting. It's going to be hard to get him back.
Speaker 2:Ice cream. Traveling with John is A colossal pain in the butt and the thing is On the podcast. We've done imaginary trips and even those suck Because we're in paris for five minutes and he's like all right, ready to go. It's like I haven't eaten yet and we're leaving what the frick? So I don't travel with john if I can avoid it. So well, you know it'd be fun to offer ice cream and donuts, I mean really, maybe I'll go by myself and then that way, john, okay yeah, thanks man, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:So do you guys do conventions there like paranormal conventions?
Speaker 5:we do.
Speaker 1:I was going to say it's a big place. I bet it'd be pretty awesome. Do you have one coming up?
Speaker 5:yes, hillcon. Hillcon is in July 19th at Hillview. Prior to that we have a little different one, but it's we call it psychic fair and it has big, really interesting ghost hunt at night because four psychics go live at different parts and they're reading our customers and pulling everything in from the building. It's pretty much all hands on deck. Sandy and Dale have been kind of leaders of this stuff before. Along with others, they're leading investigations, taking people around. We get obviously a lot of personalities that come out, but Hillcon's a big night. We have a bunch of speakers and a couple of nice headliners. This year it's Heather Taddy and Lauren Hellickson.
Speaker 1:Oh nice.
Speaker 5:They're a great team. They're going to be a great team and Heather is near and dear to us. She's a Pittsburgher, so Hilvie's like her little niche, little area. That, heather, what do you want to do? Okay, I'm coming and can we dress up? You know she's a lot of fun and Lauren is just as high energy and she's the tech girl, so it'll be a powerhouse on Hillcon night. So come on out and we just keep adding all kinds of events. We have a mystery dinner theater, whodunit, which is kind of creepy because you got to kill somebody in hilvy and honestly they're not getting killed. But we're play acting and the whodunit arguments in our chapel over whodunit is a lot of fun. So that's coming up in may. It's a lot of different things. Check our website out. Everybody's got some kind of thing going at these haunted places and we're no different. But we're pretty proud of a lot of them, that's for sure.
Speaker 3:Well, that's a good segue. Why don't you?
Speaker 2:tell us about your website where people can find you, all the social medias that you guys do and stuff like that well, we're on most social social media.
Speaker 5:Sandy's our local marketing girl. She's boots on the ground. But you can go to haunted hillview manorcom and you can look up all our public and private investigations and special events and especially hill con and psychic fair. And you know you missed Dave Schrader. He was there Saturday night. He's he's always.
Speaker 5:Um got a good show and um actually was pretty excited. He had something actually thrown at him and some what is it? Evps guys, Is that the sound stuff? Evp? Okay, Got it. I can tell how much I know um. But yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker 5:There's a lot going on um right on our website. We're on um tiktok. We have some fun walk with me series, kind of creepy through the building um that um one of our gals is doing. And we're on instagram and obviously heavily on facebook. And dale is one of our main guys who runs our lives on Wednesday night. So Wednesday night he'll view seven to 9 PM and we call it the double D's. Dale and Donnie run that show and they have a lot of guests on it and we you know you can sign up on our website, send us an email and say hey, I want to come to your live, can I be your guest? Kind of like you asked us to be your guest. Same idea and um, it's fun, it's a lot of fun, and dale sets up the camera, kind of like this. But usually they turn out the lights and all kinds of creepy stuff is happening and equipment. And what did I say? I wanted the kids in the building to jump rope. The other night.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, my trip wire.
Speaker 5:What I didn't know is these things are expensive, and they said if we get something to jump rope with, that carry, we're buying four of them. Okay, so I don't know what I'm talking about, I just entertain myself.
Speaker 1:I mean, you do a good job, you're entertaining me. I appreciate the stories, especially the fact that you're scared to go in your own building. That's badass to me. Yup, I mean, it's just fun. Dale's gonna turn the lights out sorry.
Speaker 4:Dale's gonna turn the lights out. Sorry, sandy, dale's going to turn the lights out so you can see what it looks like when it's dark here.
Speaker 1:Ooh, maybe I'll see more. You just might A lot of things go bump in the night, so to speak.
Speaker 4:I just saw something again. Me and Dale are hearing stuff all night behind us yeah.
Speaker 1:so I'm just saying like it kind of darted out of that room.
Speaker 4:That's what you see down here.
Speaker 5:We were redoing our gift shop, opening it up and doing some different stuff, and I was up working on things during the day with a fellow who was putting the flooring in and I went out, was up working on things during the day with a fellow who's putting the the flooring in, and I went out into our main hallway and he goes. We got all kinds of racket going on today and I'm like um, like, like seen or unseen, and he goes. You know what I mean, carrie, I go. Could you just tell him to be quiet while I'm in the hallway? And it calmed down Really. Yeah, I came out about 20 minutes later I said, is it a little bit better out here? And he goes well, yeah, I go. Well, tell them they can entertain you. It's just when I come out, just tone it down and that's it.
Speaker 5:That's funny and when they mess with my computers, computers and electrical equipment, I just say can't, can y'all leave this stuff alone? And it usually fixes itself kind of fast. I think that's accommodating. I appreciate that. I just don't want to see it or feel it that's funny.
Speaker 1:I I'm sorry, I just think that's that is so good, like I like your perspective, because we don't see that a lot on the like when we have people that are um owners of, uh, haunted or the proprietors, I guess, of haunted locations or whatever they're all like oh yeah, I love going in and everything and see whatever you were, just like you know it's haunted, you just don't want to be there right that's so cool.
Speaker 5:I love that yeah on occasion I will accommodate my staff on staff appreciation day and go ghost hunting for maybe an hour and yes, things happen and I'm ready to go. They, they gave me a t-shirt paranormal investigator. Cause I always, I always tell people you know how you're a paranormal investigator, and they say how black t-shirt, white print paranormal investigator.
Speaker 1:That's funny, cause all of our t-shirts are black. They are black.
Speaker 5:They are black. Yes, and I'm like we instituted a pink one about a year ago Cause we felt, like you know, I'm like we instituted a pink one about a year ago because we felt, like you know, he'll need to go pink for breast cancer awareness too, but we needed pink in our world. I like pink, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's funny. That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 5:We're trying to branch out from black with white print. We still have a lot of that, though, I have to say.
Speaker 1:Like I said, every bit of our merch is black with white print. It's still badass. People like it.
Speaker 5:I got my black on here. We go Me too.
Speaker 1:We get down to the end of the shows and we do some fun stuff. We ask questions just to get to know our guests a little bit, just superficially. Right, just barely breaking the skin, unlike my cut we talked about earlier, anyway, and it's called this or that. So, basically, we ask a question, or two questions, and you just decide which one you like. Or it could be both, or neither, or whatever, but the answer we just need an answer, that's all it is. So, with that being said, I would like all three of you to do this or that. Are you down for that?
Speaker 1:Sure why, not Very cool DW. Yeah, I believe it's my turn.
Speaker 2:It is your turn. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1:All right, so go for it. This is good because I'm gonna do some fun pennsylvania-esque jokes. So hope you guys are sports fans, because that's about the only thing I know about pennsylvania. But here it goes. The awesome goes, the awesome. Badass Pittsburgh Penguins or those dastardly Philadelphia Flyers.
Speaker 2:Three confused looks.
Speaker 4:I'm from Jersey, oh devil's fan.
Speaker 1:I got you, I'm from Jersey. Oh, devil's fan penguins yes alright.
Speaker 5:Dale's not going to answer, right Dale no, I said penguins, oh you did say penguins. Oh, I thought you were going to say something else alright, that's good.
Speaker 1:Alright, so might as well go for the other. Oh, I thought you were going to say something else. All right, that's good. That's good, all right. So might as well go for the other rivals in another game the okay Pittsburgh Steelers or the defending Super Bowl champions, philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4:My Eagles 100%.
Speaker 5:Coming back with the Steelers. Sorry, and I said it right Steelers.
Speaker 3:Steelers yeah, sorry guys. Yeah, no need to be sorry at all.
Speaker 1:Look, I don't know if you see this, but I conform to nobody. That's the Raiders hat baby.
Speaker 5:Guys, I'm going to go black and gold all the way, so just you know. You know where we're, where we stand, OK born and raised.
Speaker 3:All right, but if I had to choose between Pittsburgh or between the Steelers and the Eagles, I'd pick the Eagles.
Speaker 2:That's right, because he can't pick Pittsburgh, right I?
Speaker 3:hate Pittsburgh. I hate the Steelers.
Speaker 5:Okay, so he knows what's going to happen to him in the basement, in the boiler room, then.
Speaker 3:I have an understanding with George we're good, was that a frat?
Speaker 1:What's going on?
Speaker 5:now we have an entity that is a big Steelers fan and there's Steelers stuff all over the board.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5:And he's been known to throw things at people who are not Now. He's back in the 70s, when I grew up Big time 70s Steelers fans. So you better watch yourself down there, Dale.
Speaker 3:Me and him have an understanding. We're good.
Speaker 5:All right.
Speaker 1:I'm wearing a Raiders hat. He's going to be throwing shit at me too.
Speaker 3:What's he do?
Speaker 5:with guys with hats on Dale? What's he do with people with hats on with?
Speaker 3:different teams.
Speaker 5:Knocks them off.
Speaker 1:I'm only wearing mine today because I haven't shaved my head.
Speaker 2:The thing is I didn't do this on purpose. I'm wearing my Vikings.
Speaker 3:I've seen it. That was the first thing he noticed.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, all right. So we're going to go into the food. The food, and you know, because it's dw's favorite. So, and why not? Dw's favorite meal, breakfast? If you were gonna have breakfast, would you want your Over easy?
Speaker 4:Over easy Okay.
Speaker 1:Bacon or sausage.
Speaker 4:Bacon, bacon.
Speaker 3:Bacon.
Speaker 1:Toast or bagels.
Speaker 3:Bagels.
Speaker 4:Either.
Speaker 3:Bagels.
Speaker 1:Okay, biscuits and gravy or hash browns biscuits and gravy without the gravy all right, I'm with the biscuits and gravy all the way. It's a little fatty. I'm trying to stay away from it right now, but you know that's what I'd be, that's what I'd be doing. Okay, we're gonna go into the the ultra fun stuff paranormal or comedy paranormal both.
Speaker 1:Yay, I knew carrie was gonna say that all right, and since you know we're on the comedy a little bit, what is the best TV show in a workplace? Parks, and Rec or the Office? The?
Speaker 4:Office. Okay, dale's at a loss for words. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:I mean you could say many others, like WKRP in Cincinnati, I mean there's Dating ourselves.
Speaker 3:Well, it's either or, so I have to choose one of them two.
Speaker 1:It's played by the rules yeah, it's too hard. I mean it's not really, it's the Office.
Speaker 3:But I mean, you know, I mean it's not really.
Speaker 1:It's the Office.
Speaker 3:But I mean, you know, I just think it was Aubrey Plaza's character in Parks that.
Speaker 2:I loved she was yeah.
Speaker 1:She can be in anything I watch Right Just saying here's a guy, I'm just heard not carried was just hilarious I love it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, okay, someone just moved down one north, you guys yep you saw it too.
Speaker 4:Yep, oh, my god, almighty, we're hearing these bangs and everything. Yep.
Speaker 1:Yep, we're sitting here in the middle of this or that and, booyah, paranormal activity happening. Dw's over there just going. I want my donut, that's all he's thinking.
Speaker 2:All right. Something's wrong with my picture because I didn't see anything.
Speaker 1:No, it's right around the same area and it's been happening the whole time. Okay, we're gonna get to the meat of the matter here. This one's always always super, super fun benito mussolini or john olsen john olsen john or John Olson, john Olson, john Olson.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:For our listeners at home. Dale just shrugged in confusion. He's either shrugging asking who in the hell is John john olsen, or I have no idea who john olsen is or benito mussolini's. Not that bad, maybe I'll go with him. I don't know which one he's thinking I also like that.
Speaker 2:There was a big pause before anyone answered, so it was like I was like what's the meaning of this?
Speaker 5:oh, it's fun, that's. That's the meaning of it.
Speaker 1:It's fun. That's the meaning of it. It's fun. You ask if it's.
Speaker 5:Mussolini, with everybody. No, we change up the evil character.
Speaker 2:But you'll be surprised how many people say I don't know who John Olsen is, and how many people say, well, if we're talking road trip, yeah, I'll go with oj over john olsen so yeah, it's a very humbling question because john re-evaluates his life choices every, every episode, yeah so all right, so I failed.
Speaker 1:You're fine. These are the ones that are staples, at least when I'm asking. So I have to ask you know, and there is this Would you rather go to the wonderful, wonderful, fabulous Las Vegas, nevada or New Orleans during Mardi Gras?
Speaker 3:Mardi Gras.
Speaker 4:Mardi Gras, been there Neither.
Speaker 5:Neither I'm in.
Speaker 3:Square Square.
Speaker 4:You would like Mardi Gras, maybe.
Speaker 1:Alright, okay, so if you were going to go to neither one of those places but you were tagging along with your friends, would you want to drive or fly? Fly fly drive. I'm with you, dale, I'm with you, we'll drive alright. So I mean, that was this or that. You guys are freaking awesome. Uh, dw, do you have anything else? I, I don't think so um the.
Speaker 2:The only question I didn't get to answer or didn't get to ask was I was wondering about the psychic teacher, if she, at the beginning of the semester, can go to her students and say, um john, you're gonna fail, and so that's the way she can predict the future. And then at the end of the semester, it's like see, I was right, you're just.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a that's a first of all.
Speaker 5:It wouldn't have taken a psychic well, I'd hope as a teacher they would think they'd never think you would fail, because then they weren't doing their job and trying to that that's true.
Speaker 2:You shouldn't have that, that mindset, going into it right, exactly, yeah um, yeah, so you have your psychic teacher question answered.
Speaker 1:That's good. Movement's still happening down the hallway, so that's been pretty awesome and consistent, so I hope you guys have a fun rest of your night there, sandy and Dale while Carrie's at home, all right.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I just want to say thank you for coming on. This has been really fun, very informative and, I don't know, maybe I I might do this off air and get a hold of dw and see if we can make a trip out there for your uh hill con or whatever and and do some fun stuff there, so you could do this or that there we go, I do, I do the show there.
Speaker 1:Absolutely I would do it, I would literally record this podcast right there in that hallway with you three with well, no, she'll be zoom, but Sandy and Dale will be there with us and then I'll be with Carrie just going.
Speaker 2:So how?
Speaker 3:is it John?
Speaker 5:this is Carrie and DW coming from Orr's Donuts. Or what's the ice cream place down the street we could give a plug to. Oh, it's so good Creamy. About a mile down the street. Remote See, we could patch right in. We'll get a hotspot on our phone. We'll plug into y'all and talk about it.
Speaker 1:We'll figure it out. I'll do it shit. Why not let's go?
Speaker 2:I got this, that'll be chocolate or vanilla we'll do this or that in the ice cream shop that's I like it. Yeah, there are no, there are no losers in that game.
Speaker 5:That's right. Thank you all for asking us to come on. I was a little skeptic at first. Yes, thank you. This was very, very nice. You guys were great.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 5:I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Thank you for coming on, and I'm glad I get to hang out and see paranormal stuff while I'm recording the podcast. That's pretty badass. Last time this happened, we were at a strip club and, yes, we were doing the podcast and no, there wasn't any strippers, so we go to a haunted strip club.
Speaker 2:I see zero ghosts and zero naked ladies In that this or that. That was a lose-lose situation.
Speaker 3:Pretty much yes.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, we got to get out of here because you know it's getting late and they have to go home, otherwise those entities are going to keep them there. We don't want to have that happen. All right, so well. Again, thank you for coming on. This was a whole lot of fun. Greatly, greatly appreciate it, and you guys might know what this means. It means that you guys have been amazing. We have been scolarius and we are out Later.