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Ep. 73 What Lies Beneath: The Dark History of the 1771 Enfield House
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Step into the shadows of one of America's most haunted dwellings as we sit down with the Yaple family, owners of the infamous 1771 Enfield House in Connecticut. For 18 years, they've lived in a property so haunted that even renowned demonologist Lorraine Warren refused to enter.
The Yaples share their harrowing journey, beginning with their innocent purchase of what seemed like an affordable fixer-upper in 2006. That fateful decision plunged them into a nightmare of paranormal activity—objects moving on their own, apparitions manifesting throughout the house, and physical attacks from unseen entities. Most disturbingly, they discovered that over 27 people had died within these walls, nearly all from violent or mysterious circumstances.
Through meticulous historical research, the family uncovered the property's blood-soaked past—murders, suicides, and inexplicable accidents dating back centuries. A strange numerical pattern emerged in their research, with significant events repeatedly falling on dates featuring the numbers 11 and 22, suggesting something beyond coincidence at work.
Despite multiple attempts to leave, something powerful keeps the Yaple family bound to this house. As Elka Yaple explains, "The house is alive and protects itself." What began as a terrifying ordeal has transformed into an extraordinary journey of resilience and adaptation. Today, they open their home to paranormal investigators and curious visitors, sharing their first-hand experiences with the unexplained.
Whether you're a skeptic or believer, the Yaple family's account of living in America's most active haunted house will challenge your perceptions of what lies beyond our understanding. Connect with the 1771 Enfield House through their Facebook pages to arrange your own investigation or historical tour—if you dare to cross the threshold.
Thanks for watching what's going on. This is scolarius, I am john olsen and with me, as always, is dw, the distorted wang serene there's a weak pop dude. Why was that so weak?
Speaker 3:I don't know this is so today is wild state cider wild apple nice okay I got one for you it's um. It's a little dry, but got just enough sweet in it where's wild state cider at is that here in minnesota that's the um, or what's this one?
Speaker 1:yeah, duluth all right up there in the all right ready, all right, that's what have you? Got sound like um it's you can hear the fizz it's uh aw sugar-free soda again.
Speaker 1:So oh right right, right, yep, yep, yep, yep. Uh, still not doing the weed drinks. Uh, I don't worry, I adjusted. So again, we're playing. When will it kick in? Um, it's always a fun game. So, dubs, how have things been going? We, we went on, uh, man, we, we had an excellent adventure, we had a bogus journey. Now we're back and we're we're doing some things, so like you're, you're doing this.
Speaker 1:Uh, bill and Ted, yeah, we did, yeah, so we had an excellent adventure to the hotels, then we did a bogus journey to Ukraine and Chernobyl and now back to the States hanging out going to do some uh, going to do some chatting here in a little bit with a pretty popular place right here, yeah, so, um, yeah, yeah, yeah how's things over in, uh, the serene manner.
Speaker 3:Well, so we, um, uh, we actually our listeners might not even realize it, because we prepared for it, but we actually took a hiatus for a while because, uh, me and the child did a papa daughter trip to washington dc, oh nice. So that's where we were for pretty much the whole week it was. It was awesome. I had actually never been there before, so it was a first for me as well got to see, we did a bus tour and did the all the major landmarks the washington monument, lincoln memorial, um, uh, aremetery, all those places, white House stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Did that, saw the cherry blossoms, which were awesome, and then also went to the zoo and saw the two pandas. So pretty much half the reason we went is the Smithsonian Zoo I forget what the official name is for for the zoo there in dc um has, on loan from china, two giant pandas and uh they are. They're very playful and not not like each other, just like on their own. They just randomly like I'm going to do somersaults down the hill and you just see her rolling down the hill and stuff like that, and even the way they walk it just seems like they're happy trotting and stuff like that. So it was really cool. It was.
Speaker 3:I've also never seen so many people gathered around one exhibit at a zoo. Ever before there were so many people watching the pandas in the panda exhibit outside. I don't know how many people came just for that, but yeah, there were a lot of people there. So it was a really good time, it was a lot of fun and we got back late in the week and back to work and back to school and back to normal life.
Speaker 1:Reality yeah.
Speaker 3:And you know, honestly, that was probably one of her. There were a lot of favorites for her.
Speaker 3:One of her favorite parts was just the ability to stay up until whenever you know. And so we stayed up kind of late a few nights and went to bed very, very late, because I mean, for the first time it was like like we had Very, very late. Because I mean, for the first time it was like we had our plan, like our agenda for the day was oh, we're going to go to the zoo, like that's it, so there's no like urgency to get anywhere or anything like that. So it was very relaxed and so it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:That's cool and I'm assuming that the pandas like having fun doing somersaults just willy-nilly, and everything reminded you of me hanging out with me, I'm assuming no, because the the pandas looked friendly, so but you know just as well as I do that I am friendly. I just don't look friendly, right, right, we've been over this.
Speaker 3:And here's the thing. This is the dilemma we have. You don't look friendly, but you are. I look friendly, but I don't want people randomly coming up to me, so we've got the reverse problem. So the pandas did not remind me of you at all, because they were um happy and and playful and and joyful so fair enough.
Speaker 1:I I have joy sometimes, um so I would be. It would be a wasted trip if don't do this, okay, go ahead if several times during that trip you were there, you didn't, in your Forrest Gump voice, go all nations capital. Did you say it? Did you do it? Yeah, in all nations capital.
Speaker 3:Okay, whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I did not.
Speaker 3:I didn't do that Sorry, and the reason I tried to stop you is. One of the things that drives me nuts about going on a vacation is when you get back before, like instead of saying, oh, you went to California, what did you do Instead of that, what people do is they say, oh, you went to California, did you see this? Well? California, did you see this? Well? No, did you see this? No, did you see? Like, don't ask me I. I let me tell you where I went, because you're just going to make my trip sound, you know, uh boring and uh disappointing if you just list off a bunch of places I didn't see. I'm sorry, I didn't go to the places you wanted to go to, but here are the places that I went. Let me tell you about it. I don't know. It drives me nuts when people do that.
Speaker 1:That's the thing I wasn't going to go. Did you go to blah blah blah? Because I've never been there. The only references I ever have of washington dc is from the movies. You know independence day. You know, uh, forrest gump oh yeah, yeah, you know things like that. So, yeah, there's our nation's capital. No, it's just, you gotta do that stuff um. Dw, when you were there, did you get any souvenirs?
Speaker 3:Um, we, I, I didn't. Personally, I didn't get a lot. My, my daughter did. She is big on souvenirs. Actually, I take that back. I did get a shirt. I got a t-shirt. We went into a souvenir shop. They were having a deal on, just you know, shirts that are like Washington DC and fancy letters, stuff like that. Um, I got one of those and, um, I, I got a coin. At the, the zoo, they, they had this thing where they gave out or not gave out, but sold little coins. I thought that was cool, a nice little memento.
Speaker 3:Me, I, I'm beyond, I, I don't get a lot of souvenirs. When I go somewhere, I feel like I'll take pictures because I want to remember it, but I don't need more stuff. And that's just me getting older, I don't want to collect material things. Now, my daughter, on the other hand, she's big on souvenirs, right, but also not just for herself. She's big on she sees something, oh, this reminds her of so, and so I'm gonna get this for them, get it for them, bring it back to them and give it to them when I get back. So when she goes somewhere, she likes to get things for other people, which is you know which is very sweet.
Speaker 3:She did, though one of the things actually I don't and now that I think about it I don't think she got too much for herself but one of the things she did get is she got one of the t-shirts at um the zoo that are you know panda something, which, again, all purchases at the zoo, you know, with the panda stuff, go towards the pandas, so it was, you know, kind of dual meaning, but that was one of the things she got. She got a a panda shirt, so that was, that was a cool one, I thought so you're saying that you know she likes to get things for herself and other people yeah, she's.
Speaker 3:She likes to get things for herself every once in a while, um, and this is, uh, in general, yes, but especially on vacation, she does get things for herself sometimes, but she's thinking of other people and she'll even go through in her head like I have to get something for this person and this person and this person.
Speaker 5:I got something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so she's. She's very, especially when it comes to her friends. She's very close with her, her group of friends that she hangs out with a lot, and she has her besties and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So that's good. See, we need more of that. We need people that think of themselves and also think of other people, especially when they're buying merch. And, with that being said, if you want to get yourself some merch or you want to get somebody else some merch, and it's for scolarius, the scolarius merch, not anybody that you don't do like, you're not going to come onto the scolarius spot in in crowd made and get something from limp biscuit or or stuff like no, you're going to come to the scolarius page and crowd made. And you how you do that? You go to crowdmadecom forward slash collections, forward slash scolarius pod, and you're going to go in there and you're you're going to get cool shirts. I have a shirt. I have a couple shirts, right. I have one that says like I'm you know I didn't mean to offend you, but I don't care if I did that, that was fun. Um dw shirt. You know, here's the thing, right, that, yeah, all right, we both have a shirt together that says you can find us together but we are not a couple.
Speaker 3:But we're not a shirt together that says you can find us together, but we are not a couple and then obviously we have dog bowls or cat bowls, or hamster bowls, or maybe guinea pig bowls we call it a pet bowl, for whatever animal if you have a tarantula, you can drown the bastard in that, anything like that, and then you know we have leashes.
Speaker 1:If you have a tarantula, you can drown the bastard in that, anything like that, and then you know we have leashes. You can use it on an animal or for fun with your significant other. Either way, it doesn't matter. You can get it at crowdmadecom. Forward slash collections, forward slash Scolari's pod. Okay, everything is under $30. Go get some gear, get some Scolari's gear. There's hats and all that stuff. And then when you're there, you're probably sitting there going like you know John's T-shirt is really cool. I wonder what John thinks of his t-shirt. You know you could reach out to us and you know how you do that. Dw, do you know how you do that?
Speaker 3:You can. Well, there's the old-fashioned I don't know if it's old-fashioned, but we call it old-fashioned email which is scolariaspod at gmailcom. You can find us on Facebook. I'm DW Serene, comedian. On Facebook. You're John Olson, comedian 2.0. 2.0, because you had to start over, I did, and then we're not a couple, but we do have one together.
Speaker 1:It's called Scolarius, by the way, yeah, scolarius, yeah. And we have a tiktok scolarius, yeah. And then we have the instagram, which is also called scolarius, yeah, or even on threads, it's hilarious, yeah. And then we have the email that he talked about. It's scolariaspod at gmailcom. And if you want to, if you want to, you can go back and listen to every single episode that we have at scolariaspodbuzzsproutcom. And also, you know, there's a little thing in the episode, every episode that we put out, there's a little thing that says, like, talk to your co-hosts, because we're co-hosts, right, not co-hosts, we're co-hosts. Talk to us, throw a message in there. We had one that says I love DW. Like, dw is my favorite. Throw a message in there. We had one that says I love.
Speaker 3:DW. Dw's my favorite. What are you doing? I'm always looking for more of those. So if anyone feels that way, feel free to send that one. You can feel that way, but you're wrong.
Speaker 1:Anyway, yeah, just reach out to us, we can have a conversation. I swear, and you know, even though me and dw like to travel to get well okay, I like to travel.
Speaker 1:Dw doesn't like to travel with me because he he says I'm a party pooper for some reason, I don't know why. Anyway, yeah, we, we went all around the world and we're back, back, and then we got to settle down for just a little bit. You know, dw flew back from DC, but now, guess what? We're going to pack our bags again. Okay, sorry, dw, we're going to have to do it. We're going to pack our bags again, but this time we're going to Connecticut. Yeah, it, we're going to pack our bags again, but this time we're going to Connecticut. Yeah, you know what's in Connecticut, dw, do you know what's in Connecticut? I'll tell you this. I know you're not a fan, but the WWF headquarters are in Connecticut, stanford Not too far.
Speaker 1:Whatever, we can go there and hang out if you want, if you want to. This is why we don't. Whatever we could go there and hang out if you want.
Speaker 3:If you want to, eh, this is why we don't travel together, okay.
Speaker 1:We could go get a hard roll at a deli.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:You're into that.
Speaker 3:I'm with you there.
Speaker 1:Maybe have a club or something on a hard roll. Sure, fair enough. Why we're really going, though, is we're gonna go and hang out at. Oh, this place is pretty famous. One of my famous is some very, very famous people went in there, and a couple of them were like nope, and they bolted out. Okay, it's a very, very haunted place. I have with us tonight the owners and proprietors of the Enfield House in Enfield, connecticut, the Yaple family. Hey guys, what's going on?
Speaker 5:Hi hey, what's happening?
Speaker 1:You're all here.
Speaker 5:Nice for having us.
Speaker 1:You're very welcome. I'm excited for this particular episode because I want to know all about your house. I reached out. You guys were gracious enough to be like hell yeah, let's do this. And I figured, you know, we talked a little bit, but I didn't want to know too much. So now, now is going to be the time where we get to dig deep and we get to know some stuff. So, first off, introduce yourselves to all of our listeners Go ahead.
Speaker 4:Mackenzie.
Speaker 5:I'm Mackenzie, I'm Jay, I'm Elka.
Speaker 1:It's very awesome to meet you. I feel the same. Same here, Even though he's not saying anything, it's cool, all right. So you guys are in Enfield, connecticut. Whereabouts is that geographically?
Speaker 4:geographically we're about, well, we're about 10 minutes away from Massachusetts, from Western Mass, by Springfield Mass okay and uh, that's north of us, south of us. We're about 15 minutes away from Hartford, connecticut, the state capital. We we're right off one of the main highways, off of 91. We're like maybe three minutes off 91. So we're also probably about a half mile away from the Connecticut River, if less than that right.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and 10 minutes away from Bradley.
Speaker 4:Airport.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and.
Speaker 4:Six Flags, new England.
Speaker 1:Okay, so all right. Since I brought it up in the intro, I'm going to ask anyway how far away from Stanford are you? It's closer to New York City, but how close are you?
Speaker 4:That's where John Zappas lives.
Speaker 1:John Zappas also lives there. I suppose I could have mentioned him, but no, I went with WWF and WWE or whatever. But yeah, go ahead. How far? No, I went with WWF and WWE or whatever.
Speaker 5:But yeah, go ahead Like how far away from there, are you Maybe?
Speaker 4:it's 25 steps Stanford.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Stanford. Is it Stanford? Wait a minute, she's checking. Stand by, all right, it's okay. Hang on, houston, we do not have a? Problem. We're just going to our. Let's see here problem.
Speaker 1:We're just going to our let's see here um turk enterprise. Okay, uh, an hour and 34 minutes, all right, that's not too far. That's like a hop, skip and a jump. That's like driving to I don't know what do you think? Dw like mankato from us, maybe a little further than that okay, a little bit, so it's not too bad.
Speaker 1:That's pretty good, jaunt. Um, john zappas lives there. Uh, that's, that's really cool. I'm sure we're gonna get into john a little bit. That sounds weird, but anyway, we're gonna talk about john a little bit, you know, a little bit later, um, so another thing I want to bring up Springfield mass. Springfield mass is the home of one of our podcasting friends, the wicked wanderings podcast. So okay. Uh, yeah, they are. Uh, they're there at Springfield, so that they're not too far away from you whatsoever. All right, 10 minutes.
Speaker 4:And you know what's also is what? The birthplace of basketball, the Basketball Hall of Fame. Yeah, james Naismith, oh yeah, very awesome. Yeah, there's a lot Dr Seuss. There's a lot of cool things. Hmm.
Speaker 1:That's badass. We have to get out there, DW.
Speaker 3:We'll go stay at their house in separate rooms, because I don't want to, whatever that's hard, that's.
Speaker 1:That's cool, all right so I'll say that, and then they'll huddle together best thing, I'll slip you a 20 if you take and turn off the heat.
Speaker 3:You know anyway, no, uh so now we're gonna go k here, all right, oh my gosh the lights go off book me a red eye flight out of there tonight that's good stuff, all right, so let's get into it.
Speaker 1:Tell me a little bit about, okay.
Speaker 4:First of all, tell me about the house and how you acquired it okay, um, I guess you guys want me to do the history part, or? How do you?
Speaker 5:yeah, yeah, that's our history book.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know so how we, how we got in a house? That's a good question. Um, I was working in springfield, mass and, um, we were looking for houses and it was. It was in 2006, well, be, even beforehand, the real estate market went nuts houses that were like you know, 50 000 and going for 100 000 house, houses that were 100 000, over 200, 200 and up. So we could not find anything affordable.
Speaker 4:So I was in a meeting and one of the managers was like hey, you know, my husband is selling a lot of his properties, jay, he wants to start a car dealership. So she said you know what? There's a place up in Enfield, connecticut. You know it's kind of run down, but take a look at it. So, uh, yeah, that was the beginning. So we, we came up a couple times and, uh, you know, I mean great people. But he kept sweetening up the deal.
Speaker 4:You know, when we came up, we logged me, the house was house was run down, it was in bad shape. But he said you know what? He gave us the keys to come back as much as we want. But he said, look, we did it. I put all the big ticket items in. He goes, I put brand new boilers, brand new windows, all brand new electrical, brand new roof he goes. All you guys got to do is some sheetrock he goes. You guys got to do is some sheetrock, he goes, you got, he goes. You know a lot of people in trade fields and, uh, you can make it up, fix it up, turn into whatever.
Speaker 4:So we looked at it and elka's like no way, no, it's awful. She goes. How are you going to work? You know 50, 60 hours a week, and then she's pregnant and then work on the house getting it ready, you know. But us guys were like you know what? We're Superman, you know, it doesn't matter if you're working 90 hours a week and then coming home working. So we kept looking at it, looking at it, and he kept making a better offer, a better offer. So finally he says you know what? I'll let you guys have it for $165,000. And I was like I stopped in my tracks and I should have known right there. There must have been something wrong, did he know?
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, did he know, did he? Know, about that? I think he did.
Speaker 4:In the end? Yeah, in the end he did. I'll fast forward a little bit. When we were signing the papers, let me go back a little bit. When I would talk to this one of the property managers there. I'd be sitting in her boardroom and we'd just be shooting this shit and she would tell me about a place because I mean, but they own a lot of reality. So she would tell me about a place that she'd be afraid to go to because lights would be turned on, doors would be open. She thought it was squatters and a lot of times she had to call the police here because there'd be noises and things like that.
Speaker 4:Well, fast forward, when we were closing, uh, one of the weird things that happened was um, I'm gonna, I'll back up after then I'll let elka tell that part. But when he got up to walk down the hallway, I heard him tell his lawyer he goes, thank god I got rid of that house and I'm like what? So he knew, he knew something was up. Yeah, wow. So we had no idea what we were going to be.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he tried really hard Because when it came to the signing date and the lawyer said, well, we need a whole year of house insurance and flat insurance, and then that and I'm kind of like I looked at Jay and I'm like thank God, I said we don't have the money. I put every penny in it, I don't have it. And I was really penny in it, I don't have it. And I was really happy because I thought I was going to leave without peace. But then John said you know what I'm going to pay? That as a housewarming gift. He paid Over $1,600.
Speaker 4:He goes I'll take care of you guys. He goes Rochelle wants you guys to have a house and he goes this'll take care of you guys. He goes I'm sure he wants you guys to have a house and he goes this would be my housewarming gift. He said I'll pay you 1,600 bucks and we're like wow, wow, yeah, so he wanted out of this house. Really bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did. So okay, you get the house. And obviously the guy was he was was scamming it. It's kind of crazy. He was giving you, giving you a better, better offer to get rid of it. Most people want to take more money in. He was willing to give it away.
Speaker 4:Essentially, is what you're saying wow yeah that's crazy so, yeah, it was really crazy and you know and know, and I was like you know, I just thought, you know. You know, as I look back, you know when a deal is too good, you got to walk away and I let my guard down. You know, I was like you know. I figured Elka wanted to have a place to raise a family and maybe this was going to be just a stepping stone yeah, but you have to say to 2006.
Speaker 5:Well, that just started um coming up with Taps. That was kind of like the first uh ghost show on tv. So we watched the two before we moved and it was kind of like, oh it's pretty interesting, but we're believers so oh really no, no, not at all.
Speaker 5:So I'm kind of like, oh, that's kind of like nice, uh, entertainment. And so nobody really from us is thinking kind of like something like that exists. And then finding someone believing you too, that you maybe have something in your house, is a totally different story. Kind of like to find someone at this time period to say, okay, I gotta come how, come over. And uh, even our priest said stuff like this doesn't exist, but I'm coming over and do a house blessing. So even at this point it was hard to get help yeah, you had a priest come over do a blessing.
Speaker 1:I'm assuming that was an actual housewarming. It wasn't because you had any experiences yet, right, it was just to bless it well, uh, we, I guess we gotta back up a little bit.
Speaker 4:Um, what happened was when we, when we, the first it should have, we should have seen it come, because, um, it was just all coincidence, I don't know the day we were supposed to move. I had about 30 guys willing to help me, you know, and I had trucks and we, I was all set and then, um, it rained. It rained so heavy that we couldn't move. So the following weeks, a lot of the guys, a lot of my friends, were cops and things like that, and they were like you know what, they had duty and things like that. So I ended up with a smaller crew and now that weekend, now that one weekend this is crazy the weekend we were supposed to move, it rained.
Speaker 4:The following weekend my uncle died, so I was supposed to go to his funeral, but instead of going to his funeral we were packing and we had to move. So we moved in. Nothing went as well as we wanted to do, because I figured it was gonna. You know how us guys, we think we were going to have everything perfect, so, so our wives would be all set, and well, they handed me the first box and shoved me in the basement and they just kept shoving basement boxes. So living room stuff went to the attic right, the bedroom stuff went in the basement. So we were looking for stuff for months.
Speaker 5:I found the milk in the basement, so we were looking for stuff for months. I found the milk in the attic.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was crazy. So when we got everything going, elka was, you know, she was seven months pregnant and I took off a couple weeks of work to be with Elka and she was working and didn't think anything of it. You know, it's an old house. We heard our you know creaks and cracks and had weird feelings. You know, I always went by my feelings and something fell off and Elka had the weird feelings but just took it as an old house it's. It's over 200 years old. So we didn't, you know, figure nothing was gonna. I mean, we didn't think there was gonna be some kind of entity living in the house. Well, it didn't take long, did it? Things started to disappear. We would put our wallets on the table, turn around, our wallets would be gone. We find them on a renter side, or we go to put the keys down. Our keys would be somewhere upstairs in the bathroom and it was driving us nuts fire doors, open stuff out, yeah, so yeah so at the beginning it was, um, we couldn't figure out what's going on.
Speaker 4:So I didn't want, I didn't want to believe because my background, so I, I was like you know, I thought maybe there were tunnels, maybe there's somebody living here and playing some kind of psychological game on us, you know, and you know. So I'm, I I'm interrogating elka, like who did you give the keys to and everything? And then, um, then elka got pushed. Remember, elka got pushed down the front stairs and almost lost the babies. Um, and how she was pushed was really strange.
Speaker 5:So that made me start thinking you know what he started thinking yeah started thinking that something's not right.
Speaker 4:Because no matter how many times you go to trip yourself, your hands are always going to go in the front. That's a natural protection. You know, you try tripping yourself. Tonight your hands are gonna go like this.
Speaker 4:Well, we came with two separate vehicles and I went out and she turned around to come back to lock, to check the doors, to make sure the doors were locked, and we still, we didn't even own the house yet and all of a sudden I hear jay help me. I see her, I see her arms go flying behind her and she's staggering down. And as she's staggering down, I'm running and I'm looking in the house to see who shoved her and I'm trying to get to her to see if I can catch her. And luckily she rolled on this part of the arm and that's what saved the babies. So that stuck in my mind babies. So that stuck in my mind and I you know, because that's how I am like I start to play things in my head over and over scenarios. You know, um and uh. I just couldn't figure out how that happened. You know we rushed it to hospital and so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:So with that we saw it kind of like, ah, let's do a house blessing. But you actually told the priest right that you thought, of course me yeah my wife thinks there's something weird in the house well, hold on a second.
Speaker 1:I want to go back to your point, elka. Did you feel the push? Did you feel yourself getting pushed from behind?
Speaker 5:no, I didn't. I didn't feel it, I was just kind of like, all of a sudden I feel like someone uh really pulled the almost like the, the carpet under my feet and I'm kind of like and I stumbled, because we have several steps going down and I stumbled them all down, but then at the end, with the side curve, that's where I fell. Actually I couldn't, couldn't make it anymore. But he said what the hell did you do? Your arms were flying in the back and, um, I don't know, cannot believe yeah, to this day, I I never seen nothing like that so um, yeah, so now how long do we have?
Speaker 4:Do we have an hour, two hours, or how long is the show?
Speaker 1:You know, if it's as interesting as it is right now, we'll go as long as we can. All right, trust me. I would say you know what We've had people on. I was going to say we've had people on that were telling stories. So, yeah, I'm interested in in this, so all right.
Speaker 4:So what I would say tonight leave the, leave the lights on and get your blankies, because when we, when we go into some of these stories, you're gonna be wishing you never met us. Um, damn. So we move in. And you know, like I said, things were just happening and I started to interrogate elk. I'm like who did you give the keys to? Did you give them to your sister? Is there anybody? And she's like I didn't give to anybody. I changed the locks four times because it didn't make any sense. Like you could come home from dunkies, you know, from dunkin donuts, and you put the dunkin donuts on a table and then you run upstairs to come back, to go to the bathroom, and you come back and you're like where's my coffee? And then I'll be like you put on on the table and then she'd be like where's my pocketbook? Then we would find him in a renter's side, which is the next door, because there's a duplex and it was driving us crazy. So, as that was happening, um, elka was still trying to work for the doctor's office.
Speaker 4:I was working, um, then the doctor's office uh, made elka stay home and uh, that's where it started getting even stranger yeah, that's why somebody there all the time like now really something is not not normal this is, yeah, this is where I think she starts to really believe, because I'd be at work and I'll start. I'll start with one thing I let her feel I, I, I would get a call and at my office, jay, get home now and I'll explain, go ahead. I'll go explain what happened with the DOG, I mean not the DOD, but the.
Speaker 5:DOJ. No, I mean, yeah, that day. I mean I called them for a lot of stuff, kind of like that stuff moved or stuff got banged or the dog was flying through the air. But this was particular, when I was bed rested at the end and I, um, we were still not completely um everything on the place where it's supposed to. So, um, our bedroom was still with boxes and we had at this point we had two little Yorkies and they were laying with me on the bed and all of a sudden, um, they started kind of like looking around and started crawling, barking. So of course I was, you know, eight months then and twins, so I was not that fast anymore getting out of bed.
Speaker 5:So I was half out and I look out of the door and I watch this black dog this big black dog black dog and through our hallway we have as our bedroom, and then we have a hallway where we're supposed to be in the nursery and on the other side is the wall to the renter's side, and he came from the nursery and like he walked pretty slow and by the time he was kind of like halfway through on the door. I am finally got up and I saw him going into the wall into the renter side. So and that's where I actually, I have to say I personally lost it and I called him. I said there's something weird going on.
Speaker 5:We had just the black dog going through the hallway and he said what do you mean? And I said and there's something weird going on. We had just a black dog going through the hallway and he said what do you mean? And I said and I don't know, and the weirdest part on top, he walked through the wall. And so he thought first, kind of like I have some issues well, all you said is get home fast.
Speaker 4:So I came home and when she described it, I'm thinking, you know, okay, she's pregnant. You know, people say hormones. Because I'm like where is this six foot dog, wolf-like creature? You know where's it going to go? So that started making me really start thinking. Okay, maybe there are tunnels here, maybe there are hidden rooms that we don't know about because we're, you know, we're missing things, missing things. Okay, now a giant dog disappears. So now I'm kind of going crazy because what people realize, I'm going up to old walls, I'm banging on them, I'm trying to find out their hollow. I'm in the basement with, you know, with like incense and a flashlight, looking for drafts. Um, it was starting to drive crazy because I'm like I, I'm because she doesn't get scared. So, um, you know, I, I finally, after looking through the house, I said that there's, there's no black dog here and she said, man, she goes, there was really one here. I'm like, okay, you know, there's a giant black dog. So and it started, it kept happening and, um, so around December we got the Christmas tree up. We still had boxes.
Speaker 4:We moved in in September and I came home from work it was on my birthday. It was in December and I remember standing taking pictures of the Christmas tree and I noticed there was a big white light and I said, oh, that's a reflection from a little ball. So I take another picture with a digital camera. Now the light moves on to we have these wooden blinds. Now, as I'm looking at the light, I want to see what it was. Now I see a man's face with his hair pulled back back in the middle part, in the middle with a mustache and the light is covering a part of his face. So I'm like ha ha ha, that must be me. I reached up, I was wearing a baseball hat and I said that's not me. So I told her about that. She's like I don't want to know, I don't know about it.
Speaker 4:So, um, we made it through the winter time. The babies came and it got weirder. Um, the babies were born premature. Uh, I came home the very first night and it takes a lot to scare me and, um, the house felt like it was energized. It felt like somebody plugged the house into an outlet. The dogs were restless, everything, and I think that was the very first time where you know what I left every single light on in the house, barricaded the doors and went upstairs and I was tossing and turning and where the tv was I could look at at that time was the doorway that went to the attic. And there was no door on the attic, it was just there.
Speaker 4:So I'm laying there about two o'clock in the morning and I'm just thinking okay, jay, your wife just had babies. It's separation anxiety. You know, you can't sleep, you're nervous. It's because you're home alone. And then all of a sudden, what happens? This ball light comes shooting down the stairs. Woof, right.
Speaker 4:So I thought well, okay, logical, a car must have drove by Somehow, it must have reflected off of a mirror or something like that and projected down the stairs. So 15 minutes later, another ball light, whoosh, comes down the stairs. So now I get up and I'm like anybody's up there, you gotta leave. Listen, the house is now occupied. We bought the house. If I come up there, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I went to lay back down and I said, screw this, I'm not gonna get any sleep. I get up, I drive right to the hospital. Now here's the crazy part those lights. Elka sends me up there a few weeks later to go to the attic and I start looking around and you know what? There's no way lights can come in from the outside. We had cardboard boxes still packed up in front of all the windows, so somehow those lights had to come from an internal source, and it was. It was it again. That was the second thing that puzzled me.
Speaker 5:So, as this time's going on, things are ending up yeah, that's where we actually decided kind of like, okay, maybe we're gonna do a house blessing yeah, because you were in the hospital.
Speaker 4:She went in the hospital. Um, uh, the babies are in the hospital. She had to go in the hospital. So I went to the hospital, I picked her up and I says we got to talk and she had no idea what I was gonna say, so I took her out to eat, I said we got to talk and I said I, I don't know how you're gonna handle this. And she, she didn't know if I was gonna ask her, if we were going to be you know whatever. So, anyhow, we go out there. And I said you know what? I think something's wrong with the house. And she's like you too. She goes. I pray that you don't have to go to work. She goes every time you go to work. Go ahead, I'll go tell them what the thing was, yeah, everything happening.
Speaker 5:I saw shadows, black shadows, or yeah, I put laundry in it and in the dryer, and then the dryer to open the clothes out, and then I put them in, and an hour later I go downstairs, the dryer to open and and the stuff out again. So when I started making fun I said what, the next time, if you take the clothes out, please fold them? And. And then that's where I saw that big mask coming behind the boiler and I'm kind of like, okay, I guess you don't want to fold my clothes. So I was running upstairs and locked the door and I called him again. I said we have some weird stuff down in the cellar, weird big mass kind of like. I don't know what it is, but it is huge.
Speaker 4:So so, yeah, as so as that happened. Um, how we got into calling the priest was, uh, a first easter. It was early spring of 2007. We went out to eat at a german restaurant, came back I was finishing up doing some like little dishes and Elka comes running over JJ, and the babies are crying, the dogs are barking and she's like somebody is scratching on the walls and banging. I can't tell if they want to come in or get out. So I go over by the door and my heart's beating a hundred miles an hour Cause I don't know what's going on. So I look out the window. I don't see anybody there. So I slowly open the front door, I look up and down the street. There's nobody there. So I said you know what we're gonna call in the local priest. I'm gonna go down to the city hall and find out if anybody died here.
Speaker 4:So, the local priest I didn't realize how local he was, he, he was walking down the road. So I met him and I said, uh, father john. I said, uh, you know, my wife thinks there's something in the house. He's like like what do you mean? Like a squirrel, a chipmunk? I'm like no more. Like I said a ghost. And he says jay, there's no such thing as ghosts, because that was all made up by hollywood and fictional. He goes and I'll prove it to you. So he comes in the house, he goes on my side right, he's throwing holy waters around. He goes everything, I'll see nothing here. He goes to the renter's side. I got table saw set up because I'm doing a whole construction over there. It's like, oh, I love the smell of fresh wood and go. So holding he blesses it, right, I said father. I said one more room, I said that's the attic, it's no problem. But what we noticed was on the attic door there must have been about I'm not lying at least 10 locks, all different kinds of locks to lock that door and I and I always wonder what are they trying to keep either in or out, you know. So he unlocks everything. He goes to, he goes to walk in. He takes three steps up and he freezes and he's staring, whatever he saw, scared the living crap out of him. He goes to take one more step up and and he stops and he throws holy water down. He makes a sign of a cross, he backs out. He never turned his back on it. He backs down, backs out, slams the door, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, locks, everything turns and runs. I'm like, father, where are you going? And he's just running, boom, boom, boom down the stairs. He gets one foot on the inside and one outside. It looked like he saw the devil himself. He looked at me with his frantic look he goes, ignore it, it will go away. And he was gone. So I'm like you just told me there's no such thing as ghosts or demons. And now you're, he's running for his life. So elka comes out, she's making, you know, coffee and tea, and she goes where did the priest go? I said he's gone, he ain't coming back, you know he's, he's just gone. So, um, now, as that's happening, now it gets more crazier now. Now it starts to, now, now, if you were making a cake or cookies, now the batter, you know, starting to take form.
Speaker 4:I go down to the city hall and I meet this wonderful lady. Her name's Colleen, she runs the department and I said, colleen, I need a list of everybody who owned my house. She goes, well, what's the address? So I tell her she goes, yeah, no problem. She goes, it's a dollar copy. I said not a problem. So she starts going from where we bought it. And then she starts going downward and all of a sudden she stops and she reaches in her shirt and she pulls out this very old Celtic cross and she kisses it and she says is there something you're not telling me about your house? I'm like why, would you ask? I said that's a weird question. I didn't want to tell her. I was crazy. I thought it was haunted. Um, so she's like we haven't even got out of the 20th century.
Speaker 4:She goes, a lot of people own a house. She goes, if you know, this is going to be very expensive. Because how about this, jay? I write down when the house is bought, sold, the page number and volume, and I'm like, okay, so she's going around and she's doing more things and she's getting more freaked out. So she stops me and she said you know what? Do you have your phone number? So I gave her my office number. I gave her my, my, um, my, uh, oh, my god, the beeper number. I forgot about having those beepers on you, right, and all that stuff gave her home numbers. So a week goes by, I get a phone call. Um, are you sitting down? I said yeah, why? What's going on?
Speaker 4:she says um there was a guy that lived there and, uh, he committed a bunch of murders and then he came back and killed himself. But she was that she goes. But so I'm like when was this? She goes? 1930. So she said, but the good thing, she goes. I find a family from 1960 to 2000. She goes. They had six kids. She goes, jay, look on the bright side. They must have had a happy life, right?
Speaker 5:I'm like yeah a week goes by.
Speaker 4:They were actually the longest here yeah, besides the other family yeah so now it gets crazier. A week goes by. Hey jay, I said yeah, she goes. Uh, you know that family that we were laughing about and I said they must have had a happy life. I said yeah, she goes. They didn't she goes. They all got picked off one by one. I said what the hell is going on here? So she makes up a list. Too bad, I don't have it with me now you want to go get it and then I'll let you talk, right?
Speaker 4:so she comes back and she has a list like this of everybody that owned my house and I'm like what is going on? She goes. They didn't have those old house. She goes. When you built a house, she goes. You kept it in your family. She goes. So many people only had it for three months. So she's like something's not right. She goes. What's going on? I said you know you're going to think I might be crazy. I said I think I might be haunted. Colleen, she goes. You think she goes. I'm going to dig more. Well, she had access to death records. She had access to all the good things.
Speaker 4:So, as this is all happening, we decided you know what we got to do something, because now we, we, we know that this is no longer. You know a bump in the night. You know we would be watching saturday night live and um, elka went out, um, over to the sink and got a glass of water. And as she's walking back, I'm laying on a couch and the babies were sleeping in their little rockers and all of a sudden she drops the glass and she's like oh my god. She's like how did you do that. Well, the baby diaper changing bag, the handle levitated straight up in the air and it came down. So it started off like that and then it ramped up. So I I'm gonna let you ask some questions, because when I start talking I can just keep going and I can go off tangent.
Speaker 4:So no, it's all good it gets, it gets really crazy. Um. So, as all this is happening, um, between elka calling me up saying, get home, get home now. Um, I would leave my office, I would fly home and then I would have colleen be calling. You're not going to believe this, believe that. So this is the list that colleen had given me of everybody that lived here. So now, yeah.
Speaker 4:So now I have a hard time believing already in ghosts. But now I have another thing I uncover is numbers right, 22 and 11. And I'm going to tell you this is going to freak you guys out. I mean, you got a guy coming from a little bit of a law enforcement background in the military. You got somebody who's you know know, uh, it's really hardcore, you know. And now I have this up, there are, there is ghosts, and now I'm also looking at something I don't understand and I'm trying to piece it together. So we go to call in our first paranormal team.
Speaker 4:So at that time my sister was alive, we had the babies and um, we were using the old. I know a lot of people don't remember these, but remember the old telephone books, right.
Speaker 4:So we had telephone books, right, and uh, we were looking for, uh, paranormal teams, whatever. So we came across, uh, a local group in Suffield. They were two college police officers and things like that. So they come over and they're talking and they split up. The guys came over towards the dining room with me and the woman went in the living room. Well, now things got real. All of a sudden there was a giant banana plant and they were talking and they watched this, this huge plant, slide across the floor by like six feet. They're trying to get the guys over there. But now the guys are in my dining room and they're watching this little tea light um, with like a bird cage and when you walk it is swaying with the vibration. But now it's bouncing up and down and it can't do that. So now they're like, hey, guys, get over here. They're like, hey, guys, get over here and they're taking pictures and they're recording things, and they're like you know what, we'll be back in contact with you. They never came back. They called me up and they said oh, we're busy, we're busy. They never came back.
Speaker 4:So now we started a journey on. We must've went through at least a dozen, maybe a dozen and a half paranormal teams. We ended up going through about eight to 10 priests, shamans, native American shamans, rabbis, real witches and everything, to find out what this entity was. So, in the process of doing this, guys, it started to be a journey because we met some awesome people along the way. I mean some. Some people ran out of the house and did not even know how to begin to handle it. Other people got so affected to this day they won't come back, and other people fought it right to the bitter end. So it was a really big journey. So I guess I'm gonna go back and I'll explain this a little bit and I'll let elka take over. You guys want to hear some of the bloody history to the house before we get into our story, or you want? To hear our story yeah, go ahead yeah I'd like to hear bloody history all right.
Speaker 4:So colleen had made up this list, right, and we didn't understand him. But we see the house gets sold by this henry thompson. Now remember these dates. This is going to freak you guys out. By the end of the show he sells a house, looks, looks, harmless. May 11th 1846. He sells it to a gentleman, another wealthy man, named horace abby. Well, horace abby's living here. So colleen writes down the 22nd of May. So here's the first 11, and now your first two, two. The 22nd of May 1851, caroline Abbey sells it to Shabu Parsons.
Speaker 4:So Colleen looked to see what happened to Horace Abbey. Well, horace Abbey was found dead in the house, 1849. Guess what date, february 22nd, they said on his death record. Well, they didn't have a lot of medical back then. They saw him, probably his head, all in blood, and they said well, he died from sahibo, hemorrhaging, and they took his body out.
Speaker 4:Now where it gets interesting Horace Abbey again, this was at one time this was a very wealthy neighborhood. His daughters he had two daughters and his wife, who's is one of his daughters, grows up and marries another wealthy man who, um their family, owned Lovejoy Ferry. This is history, I love history. And, uh, she goes to build a house that used to be right next to us before they built like an in-law house. Next to us. They build this big gray house. So kyleen gets hooked on these people like a soap opera. She pulls her destiny of it and she says you're not going to believe what happened. She goes horace abby daughter burns to death. She said her destiny said that Charlotte died from burns from her whole entire body. And I'm like that's kind of weird. I said first he dies and she dies. So she said I'm trying to research the other family. So all of a sudden the house gets sold.
Speaker 4:Remember the 22nd May 1851. The Abbey's Horace Abbey's family sells it to this. This guy from Ireland or Scotland, his name is Chabot Parsons. But now, do you guys believe that you can actually see a physical ghost? Do you think that a ghost can appear like we do? Because I'm going to tell you I think we met one. So, as this was happening in the house, we would hear somebody taking a cane and going up and down the baby's cage. I'm not baby's cage, jesus, they're gonna think we're putting the baby in the cage. Holy christ, right, they locked the babies in a cage. It's jay pulls them all right so in the cribs, yeah.
Speaker 4:So you would hear somebody going like on a smoke, right. So I try to catch it because you would hear it through the baby monitor. So every time I go I would creep up the stairs, it it would stop. So this went on, and then the scary part is they were born and we had to wrap them up. They call it swaddling, where the babies are like little burritos. Well, elka would freak out. She would find the blankets pulled over the baby's heads and that scared the hell out of her.
Speaker 4:So, as this is going on, we get into like the summer, like the early summer of 2007. So what we decided to do? We want to have some fun. So we went and we started building like this, this dry riverbed in front that looked like a fake stream. Well, we went up to the mountains and got rocks and stuff and as we're building that, I'm going to start the story. Then we'll let elka take over. Um, as I'm placing the rocks, elka's on the other side.
Speaker 4:We got the babies on the on the porch and we got the monitors and all of a sudden I hear hey, did you buy this house? I look up and there's a man about 87 years old standing there hunched over with a cane nice guy and he's. I thought he was going to welcome us to the neighborhood. Guys, he said, uh, did you? You bought this house? I said, yeah, he goes. You shouldn't have bought this house. The house is evil. Get out, get out while you can. And I was like whoa, what a way to welcome us to the neighborhood. So as we're doing that, I just said, um, why would you say that? I mean what you know. I was curious why? Why would you think the house you know is evil?
Speaker 4:So now, the way he talked was out of time. He says I would walk down the street. He says, and, um, I would. There was a little boy up in that middle window. So he said, well, I would wake the little boy on my way to school. And the way he even carried his bag, the way he even carried his school books on, like somebody from somebody from a different time period, he had them bundled up with a strop and he would just carry them and he would swing his books. One day he stopped and he said I want that to have a playmate. Now do you guys go out and call your friends playmates? No, that's kind of weird. You guys already talked about dog leashes and things earlier all right, anyhow, let's not get on this.
Speaker 1:Well, that's not for each other, that for john, stop talking.
Speaker 4:Just make it weirder when you start doing that so he wanted to have a playmate right, this is weird. So he went there's like people here too. So he looked at me. He went to beckon the boy down. That was another weird word, beckon the boy down instead of call him down. But when he did, the boy's face changed, he said, into this hideous creature and he dropped his school books. Can you guys hear us?
Speaker 4:yeah yep, okay, he dropped his school books because the boy's face twisted into his hideous creature. He drops his book and he runs home. As soon as he gets in the house, his father's old and you know old school. He goes to take out his belt because he thought he wanted to play hooky and he's just screaming monsters, monsters, monsters. And his grandfather said what are you talking about? He goes at the end of Prospect Street. So his grandfather said wait a minute, he goes. Now we're going back another maybe 60 years. His grandfather said wait a minute, he goes.
Speaker 4:When I was a little boy, there was a story about a boy that ran out of the house screaming and as he did he was hit by a horse and buggy. His father ran out, brought the boy's body in where the boy died. So I asked him and I'll let Elka take over this part here I asked him. I said you wouldn't happen this part here. I asked him. I said you wouldn't happen to know the name of these people, would you? I mean, I was just a chance and uh, go ahead, Elka, what you said and how he was talking about, the different last names well, he said something with p peterson parsons, something like that.
Speaker 5:So so I'm like, oh okay. So it got quiet and we were still playing with our stones there and I looked up and he was gone. And we looked up the street and I'm kind of like, gee, what the heck? He had a cane, how fast can he run? We didn't see him anymore so we thought, man, maybe he lives kind of like close by in the houses. So that really bothered me. So a couple of days later I started, uh, going to the neighbors and asked hey, I met other over the weekend, that older gentleman, and I really would be interested talking to him a little bit more do you want?
Speaker 5:to to get your face in the way.
Speaker 5:No, I'm good and everyone everyone everyone looked at me and got like sorry, but we don't have anyone with that description living here in our neighborhood. So we only saw him once and we never saw him again again. So then jay went to colleen and said, hey, we have either peterson, parsons, whatever, and something with a p. Can you kind of like look in the time period if there was something happened? And she actually found something? There was a little boy got killed and she even had the death certificate and everything, and all the time when we wanted to connect and exchange the paper disappeared. So as of this day we still don't have it and we also believe that David, that little boy, is still here because we have a lot of EVPs and um and he comes with David and he likes to play also tricks, he giggles and he, uh, yeah, hides stuff and think it's funny. So he's a little boy, kind of like. So he's okay.
Speaker 4:I think he's a little boy.
Speaker 5:We don't know yeah, but Iris said he is really, he plays with the toys and she said that was probably also the boy who was playing with your kids' toys when they were all lined up in circles and stuff like that. So yeah, so that was the story with Parson, so we really think this guy is one of the jackals with. Parson. So we really think this guy is a former.
Speaker 1:I want to ask you something real quick. Yes, please, just out of curiosity. You're in the house right now, right, okay, so there's nobody behind us, right.
Speaker 1:No, I wasn't going to say that. I usually don't pull that. If I see something, I'll bring it up. I like doing this stuff because if I do, like you know, if I see something, I'll be like hey, you know you got anything going on, whatever. But the reason why I'm asking is have you done podcasts before, or interviews and stuff in the house? Yeah, okay. So when you do that stuff, does it increase the activity at all?
Speaker 4:you never know. If it does, it's mild because it's always listening. Okay, one of the things that will happen.
Speaker 5:We notice too. It's dates too, not what we do, but sometimes I feel like dates too. Around July, ish, we have a lot of stuff going on. Around. Christmas time. There's a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 5:So we have certain times of the year where it's getting a little bit more, but we also have sometimes more activity. How can I say that? Yet now, nicely, I think what we have in the house is just kind of like they like, I guess, doing when investigations are here. But I think also, if they like it or not, what, how to investigate it sounds now really really fetched and far off. But sometimes they're really engaging, really wonderful, and then other times, uh, sometimes they're really engaging, really wonderful, and then other times, um, I mean a filthy mouth is nothing.
Speaker 4:What comes out of that? There's one spirit.
Speaker 5:It's pretty nasty so, um, and they'll have sometimes where we have a little bit more, where where stuff picks up so to get back into the bloody history.
Speaker 4:So this is nothing. This is just ramping up to some really crazy things. Okay, all right. So now we know caroline had sold the house to that guy. Chabelle parsons uh, colleen, found him everything. Now that was in the 22nd of may of 1851. Now he gets rid of the house on the 22nd of september of 1851. He's gone after after.
Speaker 5:His little boy is gone I get it only for three months then there's another gentleman.
Speaker 4:He moves in. We don't know anything about him. We can't find nothing about him. His name is William Tate. Now Chevelle Parson sells it to him on the 22nd of 1851. And four and a half years later he sells the house to another wealthy man, the 22nd of march. So so far you have 11, 22, 22 and 22. Now you could even scare yourself. You add up all those 22s, right, that equals six six six, six, pretty much, yeah, the mark of the beast.
Speaker 4:So now, as all this is happening, we go, and now we went. Now we're gonna back up, we're gonna look at that thompson. Well, this part of enfield is named thompsonville, okay, after a gentleman by his name was horace. I mean, no, uh, uh, orin, orin thompson. Orin thompson created his if you guys ever got here, it's fascinating. He created his whole Orrin Thompson. Orrin Thompson created this. If you guys ever got here, it's fascinating. He created this whole complex of carpet mills and it looks like a little military complex and even half of them have been torn down. They turned a lot of them into luxury apartments, now called Bigelow Carpet Mills.
Speaker 4:Well, he became the richest man in connecticut and parts of new york city and on route five now, this is another creepy thing on route five he had 33 acre um complex, beautiful, beautiful. He must have had servants and everything. Well, here's the weird thing when he sells the house, when henry's well, let me back up. So thompson is like smith. Well, we, we didn't figure that this was connected. Well, last year, actually almost two years ago, me and mckenzie were doing research so I said let's do a reverse search and we wanted to look up henry thompson and we nearly fell to the chair because it happened to be the son of oran thompson, who founded thompsonville. So he sold the house because it was his great-grandfather's house. His name was um matthew thompson. Now that year it's like somebody has to pay a price that year that Henry Graham sells it to Horace Abbey. In May, on December 8th his daughter, orrin Daughters Thompson, dies at the age of 20 years old 21.
Speaker 4:21 years old she dies. So now as we start looking into the Thompsons, we realize, you know what. The reason why Henry Graham sells it and the reason why we can't find any records is because it was in the family. I think they were selling it as their great-grandfather's house. So now it almost like sets off some type of a weird curse or something like whoever has it? It's like a hot potato. So now we get up to this other wealthy man. His name is william lydell, now william lydell. He buys it um, on the 22nd of march of 1856. Now he has the house. It was a single family house. His daughter, marion um, moved over from scotland and met and married his guy name of james arnott, now james arnott. They don't live to be very old, jane. Now we get told go ahead about Elke, about the psychic coming in, about the baby being bashed and killed.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we had a psychic group coming in and because they were picking up Scottish accents, and also during the night and we still have it that you hear on the renter side. I mean our side is carpeted but next door it's just.
Speaker 4:Hardwood floors.
Speaker 5:Hardwood floors and the steps are a hardwood floor, so you can hear the heavy boots going up and down the stairs.
Speaker 4:So, yeah.
Speaker 5:So they said he is not a really nice man. So I guess what they picked up on it that he was drinking a lot and he came home and got really upset that the baby was crying, um. So they're saying they picked up that he actually killed the baby killed the baby. I don't know if he shot the baby.
Speaker 4:Shot the baby? We don't know.
Speaker 5:But they're saying he was killing the baby. So a couple years later I mean now we can bring that later that we found bones. But so we kind of like, okay, nice story, kind of like okay. So we did a little bit of research and we found, we found finally their grave and Marion's grave and there was actually on the bottom there was no name given but it says kind of like infant daughter was listed on the gravestone but there was no date given or name given.
Speaker 4:So and the psychic said they burned the baby in the fireplace they panicked, and they because there was no law, there was no police department. So they probably would have hung them, who knows.
Speaker 5:So and they're also thinking that he is the guy who went with the stick or with his walking thing. He went along. He went along on the baby's crib, that rattling sound or sometimes you could hear over the monitor kind of like almost like someone smacks it.
Speaker 5:And the baby started crying and we went upstairs but the thing was they were deep, deep sleeping. They were not even awake. But we heard over the monitor someone, um kind of like hitting a baby and the baby started screaming and we thought, oh my god, someone is up there and I'm with our babies and they were both kind of like sleeping soundly in their crib. And so that is kind of like to that story where, um, yeah, and the end of the fact, when we were downstairs renovating we actually found little bones in the fireplace pieces of bones.
Speaker 5:So the bones. So I mean we don't know. But it's just kind of like really awkward when you hear that story and then I mean, um, there were human bones. So I mean that that is definitely. Uh, this was a female bone, so this was not something from an animal or so. So that was kind of where we buried them.
Speaker 4:Um, yeah, so, as I was saying, so we believe that's who converted the house into a duplex. Now what the psychic said is, uh, the mother had flipped out because after, I mean, could you imagine the one thing? He was a really bad alcoholic. He tried killing the. You know, after he killed the babies, they tried to burn the babies, but then she lost it. So they said she had help, which I think it might have been william, my dell, her father. They said they tried to suffocate him when he was drinking, and that, no, no, they, they, they. They tried to poison him. Oh, and that didn't work. So they went and they suffocated him with a pillow and then they dragged him up to the attic and they waited and then, when his work was looking for him, saying, hey, have you seen james? And they, and they started looking for him and they said, oh, my god, he must have came home drunk and went up to the attic and, uh, he died. So back then they took that. Okay, you know what everybody drank. Back then he got drunk and he probably fell down and he died, so they buried him. So now you feed. Now you think that, oh, yeah, that's in a story.
Speaker 4:Now, marion never remarries. So what happens to marion? She's living here, she has a baby named james jr. Right now listen to this, this is gonna freak you guys out, if you guys already freaked already she has a daughter named margaret and another daughter named elizabeth. Well, we could never find william lydell's wife's name because they or it must have been like really hoity-toity they always referred to her as Mrs William Lidell. So when we found his grave site we found her name. Her name was Elizabeth Lockheed Lidell. So she must have been like an aristocrat light out. So she must have been like an aristocrat. So what happens next is, um, everything seemed to be fine up to 1865 1865, I think it was in may the mother, elizabeth, dies in the house. They wake her body and, um, they get through that. A few months later the husband dies in the house. We're like three, three to six months he's dead in the house. So marion has to bury.
Speaker 4:You know the family, but now marion becomes very powerful and very wealthy. So now you see her buying houses. I mean in 1865, in the law area, to be a woman that's going on buying houses. That's kind of rare to see a woman buying houses, because women were pretty much back then. They stayed home and the men went out and they did all this stuff. But marion was buying everything in sight and, um, she also lived here, since it was a duplex. Her brother was a civil war veteran and he was a house painter, so he was also extremely rich, we find out. So now what happens is um marion's daughters. They never get married. They grow up, they grow old and um, I'll give you guys a trivia question, since you guys aren't here on the tour um, how many babies do you think were conceived in this house from 1771 till now?
Speaker 1:oh, baby conception, I am good at that um well, except you finish early yeah, how many babies you think were conceived in over 250 something years?
Speaker 4:I don't necessarily with babies, so my God.
Speaker 3:So, with all these families living here, right, well, and so it's supposed to be a number that surprises us, so I'll say zero.
Speaker 4:Wow, you're right. No babies were ever conceived in a house. That is the weird thing. They, people who moved in, were either older or they already had children. Nobody had a happy life. So next trivia question so we can keep this thing in a high train how many people do you think out of all these people died of natural causes? Not many people, you think, wrote huh none you're right, no one one, one, one.
Speaker 4:They said on their newspaper. Like elka said, she died from bronchial pneumonia, but we don't know that, they just said it. So now, as this is happening, now, this is now we're getting into the Arnott family. So now Marion passes away and it says here I gotta look again more on the paper she dies um, I believe, do, do, do, do, do, do, october 31st. Uh, it says 1922, but I don't know where that came from because I thought she died in 1900. So it says october 31st 1922, marion arna, or maybe that's when the house got put into the family's name. Okay, so Marion died in 1900, but the house gets put into Margaret, elizabeth and James on Halloween, 1922. I would run with that 22 being in there.
Speaker 4:So now what happens is Margaret and Elizabeth, they, they, they grew up, they're getting old. Margaret decides we, we just found out. She moves to Boston. Right, they got money. James grows up right same thing. He never gets married. Imagine that three kids right, we used to joke about them must have been born really ugly or something. Because, no, I'm just joking, but because none of them got married none of them, no boyfriends.
Speaker 4:So margaret moves up to boston, elizabeth stays here, james jr moves out, goes to manchester, uh, new hampshire, where he he done. He finally falls in love with a lady who owns a rooming house and he just gets married. But the poor guy never has a chance to um, have any fun. I'll tell you why. Now elizabeth is living here with her, with her uncle who was a civil war veteran. So 1919 comes up, okay, guys. So now what happens is william bill, uh, robert lydell jr, or um, he's, he's, he's again, he's for prohibition, so he goes out. Now this is how, what kind of money these guys, this power these guys had. They went to a place called king's island now it's really nothing, but back then it was like a big like place to go and picnic and things like that. He paid for the whole entire barbecue for prohibition. The newspaper said that every time that, whenever he gave a speech, he would always start out with a Bible verse. They said he was very well rehearsed in Bible history, history, so he was. He also donated um, before he died, to the library anonymously a whole entire civil war collection. So now 1919 comes up. He gets sick and um, he dies. Well, they rush him to hartford hospital. He dies. Well, they bring his body back here for viewing nice right. So now they bring his body back here for viewing and then they bury him at the cemetery. Now that's 1919. Now margaret takes a train from boston out to here to bury their uncle.
Speaker 4:Now, a month or two goes by, elizabeth falls down and the newspaper article said she crawled on her hands and knees to the living room. She broke her hip right. I don't know how she broke her hip, but she broke her hip right. I don't know how she broke her hip, but she broke her hip. So imagine this you just crawled all the way to your living room and you don't have enough strength to get up on the couch, and she laid there overnight until the next day. Where you hear Elizabeth, are you home? And then she's probably screaming help me, help me, help me. And her neighbor comes in, finds her. Well, she goes to the hospital and dies. They bring her body back here for viewing right. So now the only one that's left is Margaret in Boston.
Speaker 5:She comes back again.
Speaker 4:She comes back and go ahead. Elka, tell them what happened to her.
Speaker 5:So she buries the sister now and goes back to Boston and the newspaper article because we had a hard time kind of like on that family, really kind of like getting it sprayed. But three weeks later she passed away so now the whole family kind of like within two months gone jeez, everybody's dead.
Speaker 4:The whole entire family is eradicated. The only one left is james jr. Now, yeah, or?
Speaker 5:j Poor James. He sold the house. Oh we don't know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so now James is living in Manchester, New Hampshire. So now July 25th- it's my brother's birthday. Is it really? Oh, wow.
Speaker 4:This local gangster. His real name is something like almost like Cagiglio or something Camperito, but everybody used to call him Charles Camperito. Well, I know, I got scratched. I don't know why I'm itching now. This is weird. It's weird. Every time I talk about him I'll start getting wicked bad chills. Right, I'll go, he's, he's around.
Speaker 4:So what happens is they say in a newspaper article that he was no stranger because he had stabbed a couple of his fellow countrymen before. So during the he would work at the carpet mills. He fought in World War I with his best friend, angelo, right. So during the daytime he would be a normal guy. Then at nighttime, during the Prohibition, he would run numbers, he would run bootleg whiskey. He murdered people. Um, he was a pretty tough guy and they were all from sicily. This is the all, the birthplace of the american mafia. So they all came over from sicily his best friend, his and everything. So what happens is he had a son, charlie junior, and this is how we know so much I, I, charles Jr died. He talked to me for over two hours and he talked to another gentleman by the name of Bob Baker. So we got a lot of information from him. So we just thought, when we first saw what Colleen had pulled out, we thought this guy.
Speaker 4:Now, when I tell you this story, remember there's only one survivor that could have told this story and that would have been Charles' estranged wife. So she's going to make up anything she wants to cover her ass. So now as there as I'm going to back up, according to his son his son was eight years old and Charles bought this house here Never told his wife they come to this house. And he said, honey, I bought a house and back then it must have been a big house, right, you know it must have been pretty nice. And back then it must have been a big house, right, you know it must have been pretty nice. And she opens the door, all happy, and she's like wait a minute. There's people's belongings here their dresses, their wallets, their rings, money on the table, there's plates of food that were probably getting moldy on the table. And she looked at him and, according to his son, said this isn't my house. Somebody's living here. She goes. Even their boots are here. She goes, charles, I can't spend one night here.
Speaker 4:So, according to his son, they moved temporarily with their friends behind there and they waited for a month and then he said my dad, he goes. Mr, be able, my dad, even though he was a bad man. You got to understand, because my dad was a good man. My, my dad provided for us, he loved us. He goes, you have to remember, because I want you to remember my dad as a good guy, not as what they're going to paint him to be.
Speaker 4:So about a month later his father says come on, charlie, let's go to the house. They pick up everybody's belonging. They threw all their dishes, they clean it up and he says they took all their personal belongings and put them in the basement. So rosa, which is supposed to be his wife, but the weird thing about it was she never took his name. Her name was was Rosa Vila. Really weird because back in those days.
Speaker 4:So now they move in here and she would always tell him this is not my house, this house belongs to somebody else. He said my mother was terrified of this house. She said that she was always trying to do almost like the old Italian things, putting, you know, not curses, but trying to ward off evil things. Well, all of a sudden we find a newspaper article that says on July 11, 1930, he goes down the street and he knocks on the door. He stabs josephine like eight times. She falls down the stairs, goes into the basement, shoots his best friend now think about this shoots his best friend in the right arm right, then cuts his throat, then goes up and supposedly this is where it gets really, really weird. Supposedly they found the newspaper said that they found his body over on 2 South Street. The the destiny of it says he came back here and shot himself in the living room by the fireplace.
Speaker 4:So now this is where none of this makes any sense, according to his son that he said my father loved Josephine. She was about 15 years younger and back in the Sicilian ways it was okay to have an open affair back then as long as nobody complained. Now everybody knew his father as a really big guy, very dangerous man. So now here's what sounds like happened. It sounds like that night. Charles Jr said on June 10th he says my father brings out two bottles of wine and they all toast. They said this will be the last night. We'll all be together again. They all toasted.
Speaker 4:Now what was supposed to happen was the next day, was a tuesday morning. Charles was going to get his suitcase, go down, grab josephine, and they were going to ride off into the sunset. He wasn't. He was going to leave the gangster life behind. He was going to leave everything behind and start a brand new life with this woman, his best friend's wife, and everybody was okay with it all toes. That was really weird. So now what happens is? He said the next day my father wakes, woke up and he was all happy. He's getting his dapper down, he's whistling everything. He goes, mr dapple, does that sound like a man who's about to go kill a whole bunch of people? He said my father was really happy. And then the next thing, he knows everybody's dead. So he said I spent my life trying to clear my father's name because I don't think my father committed, uh, murders and suicides.
Speaker 4:So for years we were telling that story, right, guys? Well, all of a sudden it didn't add up. I said how does a guy who's in love with a woman go over there, knock on the door and stab her all these many times that's, that's anger and then go in a basement, shoots his best friend in the arm and then cuts his throat? So that's kind of hard to do. And then all of a sudden, I remember colleen said hey, rosa's father lived in new york city. This was the height of of like the gangsters, with charles, oceano, bugs, moran, all the famous gangsters.
Speaker 4:What I think which seems plausible is Rosa got a hold of her father and said Daddy Charles is going to leave me for a younger woman. That means Charlie Jr is going to have to go live in an orphanage. I'm going to be on the street as a lonely divorcee woman begging and doing unspeakable things. Uh, because she goes, everything's in charles named and we're going to be homeless. I think her father said rosa, get everything in your name and that's where we see it.
Speaker 4:On june 10th, according to the paper, the house gets signed over to rosa we find out from everybody said the bank accounts, everything went into Rosa's name. Now, on June 11th, I think Rosa couldn't take it anymore and said she probably saw him getting all ready and said you know what? Charlie, go run to your blank, blank, blank. By the way, I talked to to my dad. I think at that point he grabbed a knife off the table, he grabbed his colt 38 and he ran down the street not to murder him, but I think he went down to save him.
Speaker 4:I think as he's running on the street he's probably yelling josephine, angelo, lock the door, lock door. And as soon as they get down there, I believe there was a five-man hit team already in the house. I think when they heard him yelling they were in the basement eating their lunch. And the head guy goes up to Josephine tell Charles, you're not ready, just tell him to go away, tell him to come back. Well, I think as they walked her up to the stairs and she saw the love of his life coming up the stairs almost like a Romeo and Juliet thing she probably did almost like a Hail Mary she runs out the door, bolts, figuring Charles was going to save her. Well, they stab her to silence her. She falls down the stairs. Charles doesn't even have time to grab his weapon. He runs in in a blind rage because he sees the love of his wife go down the stairs. As soon as he does that, the guy behind the door shoots him in the head. Boom. That's why the newspaper article said they found him lying on the ground with his knife in his hand and his gun by his side in the basement. That's where angelo's eating lunch with his kids. He hears a gunshot. Now he knows there's trouble. I think he goes to reach for something on the table. That's why he gets shot in the shoulder, then the guy behind him cuts his throat. Then they leave and jump on the railroad tracks and take off.
Speaker 4:So now charles has been picked up in the house. Through those ghost boxes you'll hear him sometimes come in the house and um, I'll let elka tell more stories, but a lot of stories about him. And he actually came in the house. He set off cat balls, strip lights and um. They said who is here? The psychic said and through the ghost box, it said it is I, charles, and um tell some weird stories. Sometimes you smell cigar smoke too.
Speaker 5:Um yeah, really, really, uh active. And I have down the stairs in the cellar shelf with candles and I was looking around and I felt kind of like tipping on my shoulder and I hear kind of like with a not really I don't want to say with a bad voice, but more like stirring and like where is rosa, and sounded more kind of like he's a little bit mad and he wants to find her he wants to find Rosa and they have to like probably to kill her for signing them all but this story is really kind of like.
Speaker 5:We really not, because the newspaper article says that he was found um in the house over on south street, but we have his death certificate and the death certificate says that he actually um killed himself here in our living room. So it's kind of like a paradox we have really we have two stories.
Speaker 4:I don't understand oh my god, siri just went. My phone is here and it just went off the first time the whole night. I'm sorry, I don't understand. I was talking to siri just went. My phone is here and it just went off the first time the whole night. I'm sorry, I don't understand. I was talking to siri.
Speaker 1:Weird huh so I have okay. So we gotta kind of move, move stuff a little bit. So I had to ask yeah, yeah, I know no you're good, how many people have died in the house?
Speaker 4:a lot probably about. I would say, I'm just guessing about 20 something people I mean, confirmed what we did, the research.
Speaker 5:It was 24, but um, uh, what we really could could lay out. But uh, um, I think it was 27, but we could not get 100 proof on the rest of it, either connected to the house 27 in the house 24 to 27 and one of those, possibly natural causes, even though that's sketchy.
Speaker 3:But even setting that aside, all of the others, um, I guess homicide, well, homicide, homicide, suicide, accidental.
Speaker 5:Accidental but, we also have a lot of suicides. Kind of like from carbon monoxide poisoning, from hanging to shot himself. Yeah, we'll jump into this one family family so yeah, but don't don't.
Speaker 4:No, I'm not going to go along because I only want to tell that story, because that that's a fascinating story about that, charles cabrera, because when you think now it's over, right, you think, okay, he's dead, everything over. But it gets weirder. So, anyhow, the house is bought, sold, bought, sold. I'm going to skip through this. When you guys come up you'll hear the other part.
Speaker 5:So now the house is being, it's like hot potato yeah, when we're talking about the last family, where colleen said, oh, you should be happy because they were the longest kind of like here. Um, so, and by the end. Actually five kids of six were dead yeah.
Speaker 4:So, as we, as we get all the way up in 1963, this retired air force guy buys it with his six children. He has. He has, uh, five boys, whatever. He has so many boys and he has one daughter. Well, all of a sudden, what happens is I'm gonna speed this up really fast the, the first boy we find out, falls down the stairs here, has to wear a special helmet. Then what happens is on July 1973, they take him to, which is Six Flags. Now he goes well, according to Colleen, he goes on to a ride and goes into a mysterious seizure and he dies on July 4th weekend. His father, who's the oldest Boy Scout, sues Riverside.
Speaker 5:But I found out today actually we have a lot of friends who do research and I found a newspaper article that he actually um must have been on a ride and he was vomiting and he actually choked on his own own vomit so he dies in 1985, their only daughter goes out with her boyfriend and commits suicide.
Speaker 4:They gas themselves in their truck In 2000,. Their other son, who was a Glastonbury police officer, goes to work one day, sits down, pulls out his service revolver and shoots himself in the head the same day. Now this is what's weird the same day that the first person died February 22nd 2000. The first one that we found out, remember I told you about Horace Abbey. He dies February 22nd 1846. Well, this guy, he dies on February 22nd. He shoots himself in the head. He dies on February 22nd. He shoots himself in the head.
Speaker 4:Now, a few months later, it goes by. Their other son, robert, goes up to the old garage which is torn down and he hangs himself. Everybody's gone except for one, son John, who was in the Air Force, and they thought they. When I talked to the family they thought it was just they had bad luck like the Kennedys. So that was the last family that lived here for that amount of time. And then they sold it to somebody on July 11, 2003 for $122,000. 2003 for $122,000. We buy the house, luckily, on September 28th, but it's logged into the books on the volume of 2222. 2222.
Speaker 4:So I'm like, oh my God. So I skipped through a bunch of other murders and suicides and accidental deaths, heart attacks, but the list goes on, guys. I mean, I could go on for almost 45 minutes straight and just going how everybody just dying. But now the weird part. This is where it gets even stranger. Charles comparado jr had a son which would have been his grandfather, would have been a gangster. Well, in 1973, see, nobody would have put this together, the same year that the first kid goes down to riverside and dies. That same year, his son was 22 years old. He was going to Anson-Untuck Community College. He was going to college. He was married. He drives out to. There's a big set of lakes down in another town called Congamon Lakes. He drives out there and he gasses himself and he commits suicide. So that was really bizarre. Now to end the end, to end that story with the family, we tried for years and years to go down to the anfield historical society to try to find some proof about our house being old.
Speaker 4:Every time somebody called, they would say we're looking history for 3739 Prospect Street. We have nothing here. Good day, well, in 2020,. I get an email that was signed anonymous and they said the reason why you could not get any information is because Charles Comperato Jr volunteered and was on the board of directors at the Enfield Historical Society and he died in 2020. And everything that we were trying to get our hands on he tried to put a stop to. There must be something there. He didn't want people to find out. So now we're up to where we are now and we, we we paid an awful price being here, I mean, we try to move out three times, and every time we try to move out, right if something would stop us. So now, guys I know it's getting late, no, you guys I'm fascinated by this.
Speaker 1:So I mean this is incredible. I I okay, so I was gonna ask this, and then, yeah, you kind of already answered it in the way. I'm like, okay, does it concern you at all? You know, with all the people that live there for as long as they have, you know the many people accidental deaths, suicide and stuff like that for you guys have been there a while 2006 to 18 years, right yeah okay yeah so I'm assuming mckenzie is one of the kids we're talking about in the beginning.
Speaker 1:Yep, she's right here. Yeah, I'm mckenzie. So I was. I was just kind of I was like okay, then 18, so I'm assuming. So she has had the luxury of living her whole life in a haunted house that is correct luxury and or and you know what, in another luxury.
Speaker 5:I don't know if it's a luxury, I don't know if it's a luxury, I don't know. We don't know yet. But both of the twins have abilities to see stuff. So yeah, they come. I mean even when they were little. I mean they're picked up. They played with kids who were living here. They were, they were actually um kenzie sees always still a girl in a white nightgown, um, still creeping around still creeping around, uh, yeah, kind of.
Speaker 5:And courtney was uh, talking about the suicide guy out in the garage when she was little and we saw it all the time she talks about barbie and, but she meant barbie and she jumped off her. We were party training and she was standing on her little toilet and she's and because jay said so what is it? Well, what did barbie do? And she said he, she hold her leg. And she jumped over a little toilet and got like she could.
Speaker 4:Actually. She told me how everybody called him Robert and she said, no, bobby died. I said how did Bobby die? She goes. Oh, I said okay, so you could show me. So I was sitting upstairs reading a good housekeeping magazine. The only piece like piece place I could get pieces in a bathroom with all the girls in the house. So she comes up and stands on her little porta potty and at first she was jumping up and down. I said that's not how Bobby died. I said silly goose, she gets on her porta potty, jumps off and cranks her head and starts swaying. She goes. That's how Bobby died. She had no idea, we didn't even know. And uh, and she goes, that's how he died. So she would talk to him in the backyard and that was creepy that is creepy.
Speaker 1:I am really. I have to ask this too. You guys have all had experiences there, right Like a lot. Yeah. Okay, a lot. So I want to ask each one of you and try to. I mean, yeah, so, mackenzie, you first. What is the scariest thing that's happened to you at the house?
Speaker 2:I would say probably lifted up two inches under my sister's bed when I was a kid. That'd probably be pretty scary because I could feel like someone threw the ceiling. I could feel something lift me up, I could feel the power on it. I probably would say that's the scariest moment.
Speaker 1:I'm sitting here thinking you guys have had all that stuff and somebody, just kind of like, lifted you a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean the shadows, like I used to in here. I mean we have noises or things move, and it's just so normalized for us. It's like I understand that.
Speaker 1:I get that, jay. What's the scariest thing?
Speaker 4:that's happened to you. Well, I had a lot, but I'll pinpoint one down. It was terrifying. When we first moved in the house we were, I was laying, we all went to bed, we got the girls in there in their little cribs and Elko goes to sleep like this and I'm, I'm, I'm there and I have a hard time falling asleep. Well, all of a sudden I hear somebody come up the stairs, so I I reached over the draw. I thought somebody broke in, so I reached over my draw and I had my hand on. I had my hand on a weapon and I'm waiting to see who's coming up and all of a sudden I see this girl, really skinny, she had long blonde, natty hair, right. Okay.
Speaker 4:Her skin was kind of grayish and really thin, her dress was skimpy and at the end she was barefoot and her dress was all torn. I'm looking at her and she's carrying these high, high hair, open-toed sandals. And she looks at me and I and, telepathically, I said oh my god. And she said there is no god and like. And then all of a sudden, at that point she jumped on my chest and I went to yell for elka. I went to go, I couldn't. I lost, I had no voice.
Speaker 4:I was like, oh, as I'm fighting this thing off me, I'm taking my elbow and I'm wailing elka in the back. I please wake up, please wake up. And it's like oh my god, oh my god. And then all of a sudden, she said something and then she jumped up. Well, the next morning I wake up thinking what a bad dream. It must have been a bad nightmare and my wrists were sore. So I looked down and she held me so hard that she left black and blues of her handprints on each of my wrists and that stuck with me for a long time, thinking what could be that powerful like leave black and blues of their imprints of their hands. So I never saw her again, but I'll never forget her face. That was probably one of the things that stuck in my mind of being really dope alright, elka, now it's your turn for get, you get it was actually more like the dog, but also um why I thought this thing has really power.
Speaker 5:Um, this is an old bible from germany.
Speaker 5:There you go and, uh, we, I had it in the kids room up in the shelf and we had the night before we had a paranormal group in here and they were actually trying to help us and that was where there was really some horrific footage captured. And Lorraine was on the phone, lorraine Warren, that night. And, uh, the next morning I found the Bible shredded all over the floor, kind of like what do you want from me? That is was for me kind of like, and crowding with it that and the dog. This was for me kind of like. What was for me, kind of like the worst.
Speaker 4:Those are pretty scary. Now there is again. Everything is a paradox. Now, what really happened was there was a team that came in there named CPRS I won't mention the other guy's name right now because he's going around and he's telling one story but his partner called me up and he corrected me and he said you know what really happened.
Speaker 4:Lorraine refused to come out to the house. They called her up and they had her on speaker and they said Lorraine, our dear, sweet, sweet friend, can you? We need you. And um, the gentleman's name was Orlando. And Orlando still will not come back to the house to this day. He says he goes. I love you guys, I think of you guys as family. He says but what happened to me at that house? I can never come back. So, um, but he said Lorraine was on the phone. He says I will never forget this because he goes. She's never refused. And they said you know they begged her. They said we need you. And she said what else happened? The camera woman, and threw her eight feet down the hall. And she says I cannot put one foot in that house until the day she died.
Speaker 4:She refused to come out to the house and, um, she, she gave lectures at the college nearby everything. Now we don't know if it was because she was getting older, already lost ed, but that changed um, orlando ferente, um, it changed his life. He goes. I've never seen lorraine refuse to come out to a house. He says we were on our own and by the time they got done, he, he fought, he stayed with us till 2015. Matter of fact, he was on one of the tv shows on discovery, a haunting, but he did everything he could and um, in the process, um, some paranormal people almost died fighting this thing and, uh, his whole family was almost, was almost destroyed. I mean, he almost went through a divorce, lost his job, I mean everything could imagine. And he hung in there. Right, he may I shouldn't say hung but he stayed with us to the bitter end yeah, we also had famous Bishop McKenna in here.
Speaker 4:He did Amarillo Horror yeah we had him he came in he came in and did an exorcism. John Zaffis was in John.
Speaker 5:Zaffis was here.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we saw John last month. We had oh my God, did you have that picture with the film crew we had when we did the? We were how we did the TV shows. I might be another question is we had another famous guy, robert Baker. Bob Baker, to this day I mean, I mean he got severely banged up, but Bob, actually he fought the biggest fight. He got scratched, he got pushed, he almost got thrown down the stairs. People don't know that whole story with him. But Bob said I have all these TV people coming and he said I encourage you to do as many shows as possible, as long as it takes until somebody sees your show and knows how to handle it. So the first show he got in was Animal Planet. And the guy can you hold this up? So now I'm going to show you really fast this guy right here.
Speaker 4:His name was Brother Bear. He was from an Indian tribe. They brought him in. They never had him on TV. They wanted to do us a favor. He came in. Oh, that's nice. As soon as I said that, did you hear that?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:As soon as I said that lightning struck Lightning. Well, thunder and lightning yeah, that was nice. I think it's time to change my depends right now. Thunder and lightning, yeah, that was nice. I think it's time to change my depends right now. But um, so now, um, they brought in him.
Speaker 5:I guess let's stay focused guys, I know the shepherd is scared. She wants to eat the firework but she's scared of so yeah, I guess, because so.
Speaker 4:So they brought in a native american shaman to fight this thing and he picked up on it and, um, he tried it. But this woman over here, she was a famous um director from hollywood that came out and, uh, she was going to do a movie on it. She didn't believe in the paranormal, but when she left she was, uh, she told me she could never come back to the house because something followed her home and messed her up. So we, it's okay, kenzie, so anyhow, and that's bob baker here. Bob got messed up really bad. So these are some of the people back then that we had um fighting, uh, the entity, the entity. We finally did get rid of the entity. Oh my God, everything is going crazy. One lightning strikes and it's like downtown Baghdad. Everybody's getting wiped out. But, oh my God, guys, I wish we could talk for another three hours. There's so much we really do, we really do.
Speaker 4:And we probably bored you guys out of your mind.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not bored at all. I'm kind of concerned for you guys because, based on all the things that happened there. So, okay, I'm going to go through and you just tell me yes or no. You guys have been on TV shows, yeah. Yes.
Speaker 1:The people that have been there, that have investigated your house, or at least come in to take a look at it, have been people like John Zaffis. Right, you've had several paranormal teams going in there trying to figure out what's going on. Right, lorraine Warren, who was a straight badass when it came to demon fighting, wouldn't walk into the house. Yep, I mean, how are you still there, like how you said you couldn't leave, but I mean, was it because of I mean, define that mentally or physically?
Speaker 4:Because I mean mentally, I really think I checked out and not not saying I went crazy, but uh, after seeing some of the things that I've seen, okay, it changed my whole view on religion and and and everything, because I lost my whole entire family my, my brother, my two sisters, a good friend of mine, and it rocked my foundation. But, like I said, we tried to move out and I'll let Elka, do you want to tell how we tried to move out.
Speaker 5:I mean let's say it this way try to move out, or you want to, or well. I mean let's say it this way in 2015, we got actually a gentleman in here um, or actually two reverend, neil farley and jay dodd and um, they were actually the ones who, who got the control over whatever it was a man, I mean, it was not human, um I call it a entity, I don't want to call it a demon I don't really believe in the demon, like, but we also know.
Speaker 5:I mean, we had. We found that out actually three years ago because we had a lot of activity going on. And uh, courtney, our other daughter, called jay dot and asked him for advice and and he said you know what? You know, I can't do that anymore. So he said can I speak to your dad? So he spoke to Jay and said you know, I actually can't do this anymore. And he said because I will die. So, um, we kind of like what's going on? And he said well, I was. I mean, he was a state trooper, it was healthy, nothing really. And he got in a dream. He got visited by that thing and told him, or warned him, to stay away from the house, otherwise he will do bad stuff. And Jay ignored it.
Speaker 4:Jay said, said I'm a child of god. You get you know, get me behind me, whatever, how they say in a you know satan. And the entity said to him do you know who I am? And jay dodd kept saying I'm a man of god. He said I'll show you. A week later, jay dodd had three heart attacks and flatlined and was pronounced dead. And when he came back I don't know if it was a vision or he was on the or he, like Uncle, said he was dreaming. The entity sat at the edge of his hospital bed and said now do you know who I am?
Speaker 5:And so he told us he, he, he struck kind of like a deal to say I stay away and you stay away. So I actually um have a really good friend in Germany. She's a, um, a psychic and she was actually handpicked by Ed Warren and, uh, she's really good and she still do cleansing here. But she had last year a heart attack too after she got a warning, but she said it has nothing to do with your house.
Speaker 4:That's what she said.
Speaker 5:That's what she says. But she said I know there was a deal made and the thing belongs to the land. She said it sleeps, they brought it to a sleeping point and she said we want to keep it sleeping and everything what you have in the house right now. So she does once in a while she does the house cleansing or she gives us remotely action.
Speaker 5:I mean, last week we actually uh, did a ceremony out there and we buried tobacco, because we also have indians, we have witches around here because salem witch trial around here the corner. We had it here too in windsor, not alone in samoa mass. They had the same amount of massacres there. So we had actually witches living here. So there is so much going on. But she said what you have right now in the house is more what is what was living here before?
Speaker 4:so we have a lot of like the people that live here are still here she said that thing, whatever it is.
Speaker 5:she said he is sleeping and we want to keep him sleeping. And and she said you, you're okay, you're good, you can live here. Was it our dream to get out of here? Oh, of course, for the last 20 years if I could get out of this house. I would have my suitcase faster packed than anything else.
Speaker 4:But there's also we also. Oh my God, how can I say this without I'm not going to mention no names? So, oh my God, how can I say this without I'm not going to mention no names? The house and I know you guys are going to have me locked up when I say this the house is alive and the house protects itself. Like, say, if you guys came in and like say you went to paranormal investigating and you just were looking for ghosts, you know you might get an EVP or maybe something might happen. We can't offer paranormal on demand. But if you came in and you had bad intentions and I'll give an example without mentioning any names last year, a lady had contacted us. We were supposed to have worked with this famous b psychic and he was going to bring up this woman and they wanted to film a documentary. They were going to be here for four days.
Speaker 4:Now what happened was this was interesting, because you start to see a pattern we didn't realize that they were coming in to scam us. We were here. We thought, okay, we're going to do the documentary. Well, behind the scenes, everybody who was involved with her, they had their own agenda. Now, after they left, each person that was part of that team all got messed with. She ended up kind of like losing it. Um, snapping on us, remember, uh, call me up, just call me up at random time, screaming at me, sending me weird text messages. It made no sense or like what. What's going on here?
Speaker 4:The other gentleman who was with her. He came up. He was supposed to have 40 years experience. His personality started to change and we started seeing him and we were all friends.
Speaker 4:I'm like what is going on with T I don't want to mention their names and now all of a sudden last week we had an investigation here a couple months ago and he totally lost it. And you'll see this. It's a weird pattern. But if you just come up to investigate, you're okay. But the house kind of knows if you're coming in just to investigate or to visit coming in just to investigate or to visit. But it also I know it sounds crazy, but it it knows if you're coming in to do harm. Even though it's it's, even though whatever this entity is is a badass, as they say, it knows if you're going and and it messes with them and it changes their personality. It's really weird. I could go in on a whole topic about this, because it just didn't happen to that team last year after multiple people it happened to a couple people who try to scam us in different ways.
Speaker 4:It it affected them to the point they not only scamming, but they were good friends.
Speaker 5:And then they came, and then a month later, all of a sudden, uh friendship gets destroyed. The same thing if you do wishes in that house you don't wish make any wishes in this house because somehow they always come true do we still have time, guys?
Speaker 4:can we talk a little bit, or are you guys want to?
Speaker 1:well, I was I was just going to, uh, to ask you guys like what, what is, where are the shows? Like, what are the shows that people can watch your story?
Speaker 4:hang on, let me get my.
Speaker 5:I'm gonna get my phone here because, well, some of them are, because they were all older, because a lot of people asking too, where were you? Because we had the stuff started when we moved in 2006. On and off we had people helping coming in and out 2015,. Neil Farley and J-ay dot were kind of like keeping it. So we had kind of like it was livable, no scratching or or anything. So it was kind of like, on one point, for us a normal life. Um, kids started school and um, yeah, they got thrown out out of preschool because they saw a dead priest and the nun freaked out there you go but wait a minute.
Speaker 5:And then uh, when they started school, um, it started.
Speaker 4:Oh, you live in the spooky house, so for about 10 years you didn't hear anything.
Speaker 5:So people asking. But we tried to have a normal life and, due to the fact that the kids weren't, okay, and all this finger pointing or people tried to call in pictures and I said I want that. So you didn't hear anything from us. But we had so much issues we never could have. We keep renters, I mean within a year. Um, they're freaked out. I mean that they literally kind of like had nervous breakdowns and and all kind of stuff.
Speaker 4:So we can't rent out anymore.
Speaker 5:So those shows are really uh uh older, so I don't even know kind of. Some of them say you can get them still on two weeks so you can stream them, but you have to look for them. But we will have new documentaries coming out. We actually had last month two ladies here and they did a did an awesome um, um, uh.
Speaker 4:I mean, it's not out yet, but yeah you want to back up and tell them about the other one first yeah, do this, I will tell you the name of them.
Speaker 4:But this, well, I'll tell you the name of the shows first and I'll go back and we'll talk about what exciting things we had happen this year. The first one was Animal Planet in 2009. That's how it got the name the Demon House. It was episode 105, and they called it the Demon House and that name stuck and so everybody knew us as the Demon House. But the next show, john wanted to come in here and he came in with the haunted collector and the name of that show was called the enfield horror. That was in 2012.
Speaker 4:Um, the other show, when they brought it back, as soon as they brought it back, was on the discovery, called a haunting. That was like the Discovery called A Haunting. That was like the original show called A Haunting. Well, they reached out to Bob Baker and they said hey, listen, we just brought it back and we want to get into Enfield. So Bob called us and Bob's like please, jay, do one more show, because doing shows like this are very stressful.
Speaker 4:It's terrifying what they put you through. It's almost like being interrogated. So that's why you don't see Elka in a lot of these shows, because she goes I'm done. I can't do this Because, I mean, they treat you fair. They put you in a hotel room, they pay for your food, but you also sit in a room with bright lights and they repeat questions over and over again. So we did the haunting um, a haunting called the uh, the shape of evil in 2014. So those were the three shows and that's how we got, and that's why we stopped them, because we got contacted by Reverend Neil Farley and J-Dod and they actually they paid for the whole trip up here for two days and they fought, while J-Dod fought the toughest fight of his life and was almost killed.
Speaker 5:So this year we kicked it off with a bang we had have you ever heard of this?
Speaker 4:Have you ever heard of them? Their name is Reverentivity Paranormal. They make equipment out of Boston by New Bedford. They make all kinds of really high quality equipment. Well, they came. This is kind of funny. They came last year and they said I hope you're ready, make all kinds of really high quality equipment. Well, they came, this is kind of funny. They came last year and they said I hope you're ready, we're going to put the anfield house to the test. They said we took every piece of equipment that we have and what we sell and we're going to test out the anfield house. I was like, oh my god, what happens if nothing happens? You know, and they got great results. So they came back this year and they wanted to do a live with us and that's on youtube and they got some incredible things.
Speaker 4:I don't want to say evidence because it's I'll let people make up that for themselves and what they captured. Um, right after that we had two other ladies, like elka said one one her name was patria and and, and, uh, jeanette bowman. They came up. One was from florida, one from ohio. Awesome people had a lot of fun and they had a lot of experience here. I mean I was surprised they had that much activity and um, so, uh, patria used to do, she used to film direct and uh do a lot of indie films.
Speaker 4:So she wants to, um, because she said I, I love this house I love you guys and she wants to make a documentary and give us a dvd. So we can, you know, either give it out or sell it, um. So that's kind of like what we kind of are now. Um, but the film, the documentaries that we're talking about, they were done in the early days and, like I said, I mean we laugh now but it was a battle for souls. We were terrified every single day not knowing what was going to happen. And when you see famous priests like, uh, bishop mckenna have his holy water stolen on him, or um car runs over you almost and yeah, and just other other things happening.
Speaker 4:Um, so what happened was um, you probably asked how we got to. Where we are now is in 2022. In the fall, a friend of ours who used to work with Bob Baker said listen, you guys can't keep renters. Why don't you turn it into something paranormal and try to? This way, at least you can pay your mortgage. So we tried to Airbnb, but then we found that there was a new word, john called event planners. So we stopped the Airbnb because it wasn't fair to people, and we tried to hook up with a large event planner and we decided at that point it would be better to go on our own because we we don't want to charge people a lot of money, like, like, like, you hear what some of these places are charging 1700 a night, 1350 a night. You know it's outrageous. So we decided because, since it's the duplex on that side, we would only charge 450. You know it was like way low.
Speaker 4:You and, and you get heat in the winter, you get air conditioning in the summer, it's a full functional kitchen, a full bathroom. Where else can you go and ghost hunt and have a full bathroom, where, if you want to take a shower in the morning before you leave, or you got a microwave oven, a refrigerator, we sell snacks, so we give a lot back. So we do a lot of fun things and when we do lectures here, when we have like a sold out lecture, we give back. I mean, it's not like we just take and take and take. What we do is Elko will literally take like little stickers and put them underneath the chairs and at the end of the event elko will say everybody look under your chairs and whoever has a sticker gets a uh, enfield t-shirt, t-shirts. Yeah, so we always trying to give back. We have free water and things, so we're always trying to do something.
Speaker 5:So we also wanted to be gonna start this year that we do history tours, um, including, kind of like, because we are in walking distance where charles cabaretto um killed um a cemetery tour. We will, we want to start and, uh, yeah, all new stuff, and that's why a lot of people saying, oh my god, I don't know what happened to your website. Our website is right now down because we overhauling the whole.
Speaker 4:Kenzie's making a new one.
Speaker 5:Kenzie's making a new one, kenzie's does a great job with all the new things, what we want to add on. We want to even see because she's I mean she will graduate this year. But we want to add on. We want to even see because she's I mean she will graduate this year. But we wanted to see too she's interested in creating a youth paranormal, where kind of where we have teenagers who are interested in the paranormal. She wants to kind of like with equipment, we'll learn. We'll also do research in the library, kind of like really from groundwork to when they do an investigation to figure it out who it is, who it might be and and stuff like that. So this will be all new added on for this year nice that's awesome, hey.
Speaker 1:um, I usually ask where to find you, but you've already said your website's down, so let me ask you this you guys have a Facebook page. We do.
Speaker 4:We have two of them. Okay, one, I'm going to let these guys do them because they kick me off social media, because they say I spend too much time on there trying to answer people and do good things and they're like dad, you got to get off. So but I have the first one that we have. Uh, you, you can.
Speaker 4:We're almost up to 5 000 people, um called the enfield ct haunting okay and then the other one which we want is going to be our flagship one, where it's a following site it's called the 1771 Enfield House, Elko. Can you find that Okay?
Speaker 1:So the 1771 Enfield House and then Enfield Haunting. Enfield Haunting.
Speaker 4:Kenzie, can you find it?
Speaker 1:alright, so so you guys, you can be found on Facebook. If anybody wants to stay there, like say they want to come there and they want to do an investigation, how do they get a hold of you? Is it through Facebook?
Speaker 5:Facebook Messenger.
Speaker 4:Messenger, and then the email too.
Speaker 5:That would be thehuntingcom. But when the website will be up it will be the 1771 Enfield House. Hopefully by the weekend we will have everything because we want to create also our bookings with the website. So it's going to be all a little bit more advanced that you can also can do reservations and that stuff over the website. So, we figure that out.
Speaker 4:So right now we're like said, if you want to do an overnight investigation, I believe unless I change it, I could be wrong, so don't hold me against this guy. Yeah, it's gonna be a little bit different, but the old, the old way was by up to five people was 450, from seven to seven, and then each additional person was an extra $75.
Speaker 5:seven and then each additional person was an extra 75 dollars. Um and um, we planning to do it a little bit different, because we had a lot of requests where they're saying, oh my god, our group is not so big, we only two people, and I get it. I mean, that is a lot of money when you, when you play it out, you have only two people. So we wanted to make it kind of like that we gonna do now individual prizes so that you have um maybe even more I think, kenzie, what was it?
Speaker 5:either 100 or 125, right? Um, yeah, per person. So if you are two people, only yeah so we're gonna give the chance also. If you have a smaller group um that you can, you can do also an investigation.
Speaker 4:We are also, um, we also do lectures here. Sometimes we try to get some famous people well, I shouldn't say famous, but well-known people come in, uh, and they give lectures. Like last year we had somebody come in that worked with the Warrens years ago and we did lectures and we kept their prices down to like $99. But most because we split it 50 50, so that type of person, they, when they come up, they get paid.
Speaker 5:We have mediums coming in. Who do readings?
Speaker 4:gallery readings we also have, which I think I love them, is uh, in the summertime, haunted campfire tales where we sit around with a fire on the side of the house and we tell ghost stories and answer questions. Um, so we, we're always trying to do something, and and and and. Uh, you know, our goal isn't to to get rich or anything, it's just to pay the mortgage, pay the bills, and if there's anything left over for pizza, I'm happy. You know. I mean, some places are. Are they charging on my leg, which I understand, you know they. That's what they do, that's what they do. But we just like to have people come out and have a good time, get scared and tell a few jokes at the same time too, you know.
Speaker 1:There you go. That's the best way to do it. So you told us where you could be found. You told us where all the movies and stuff are that are about your place and with you in it, and you know me and DW. We already told everybody where they can find us. But we have one more thing we need to do. Then we have to wrap this thing up because we have to go to bed.
Speaker 5:So Alright.
Speaker 1:What we do is Well, first of all, I want to say thank you, because you know, uh, you're welcome this is a whole lot of fun and, to be fair, you're right, I don't even think we like, even we're not.
Speaker 1:We haven't even broke the surface yet, but maybe we can have you back on in the future and we can do a part two and talk a whole hell of a lot more about it. Um, yeah, but right now it's time for the thing that we do, called this or that. So, dw, yeah, do you have this or that this week?
Speaker 3:is it my turn?
Speaker 1:I can't, I'm not sure if it's your turn or my turn. We we've been doing the flip city, dip city we last did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, because last time it was both of us and we turned it off, yeah I have one ready, should I, should I yeah, you might as well do it.
Speaker 1:Go ahead and um hit up the the yables with, uh, some this or that.
Speaker 3:All right. So this is just either or questions. Any of you can answer, all of you can answer, so we'll just go through these. So here we go Chocolate or vanilla.
Speaker 5:Vanilla Chocolate.
Speaker 4:Chocolate.
Speaker 3:All right. Burgers or tacos.
Speaker 4:Definitely burgers on the grill yeah tacos.
Speaker 3:All right. I'll be curious to see now if we get one where they can all agree Fiction or nonfiction.
Speaker 5:Nonfiction. Non-fiction.
Speaker 3:I like reality there it is would you rather stay up late or wake up early? Wake up early. I like to wake up early stay up late.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you do you get me out of bed and watch TV.
Speaker 3:Alright, if you perfected your time machine. Yeah, you get me out of bed and watch it on TV. All right, if you perfected your time machine, would you rather travel back to 1885 or forward to 2125? Back in time, back in time, that's fascinating.
Speaker 5:Yeah, back in time All right. Probably, the life was probably easier.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay. Would you rather have a magic wand or a lightsaber?
Speaker 5:Magic wand. Magic wand, yeah.
Speaker 4:Can I have both, because you can.
Speaker 3:Kind of defeats the purpose. You kind of have to pick one.
Speaker 4:Well, a magic wand can do more damage, because you can turn people into frogs and ants.
Speaker 3:So I go for a magic wand okay, would you rather ghost hunt with the ghostbusters or scooby-doo in the gang? Oh, they all pick scoobyDoo yeah. To travel. Would you rather drive or fly?
Speaker 4:Drive.
Speaker 5:Fly.
Speaker 4:You're going to see more of the back roads.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, I like to fly.
Speaker 3:Okay. Is it better to sing in the shower or in the car?
Speaker 5:None of them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's coming over. It kind of them. Yeah, it's going on, it's coming over. What kind of goes to that?
Speaker 5:the milk gonna get sour enough all right what else we got?
Speaker 3:all right concert or sports event concert okay, all right last one sports event Concert. Okay, last one, benito.
Speaker 5:Mussolini or John Olsen Mussolini.
Speaker 4:John Olsen. Yeah, I think Mussolini is a little bit out there.
Speaker 5:Sometimes you got to take it for the risk.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah well. I'm with you, mussolini, mussolini but then again John could be like Mussolini.
Speaker 1:You know well, I'm gonna be now.
Speaker 3:I like how to start out. One said Mussolini, one said John Olsen and the other I'm not sure. So it was the perfect answer, like one of each yeah, that's wonderful, yeah, perfect, love it.
Speaker 1:I love that, yeah you know, I love every time that there's a mass murderer or a dictator. They're always chosen before me, every single time I have to get creative.
Speaker 3:You know I'm trying to pick a new person every time, so I get it but they well, mussolini they.
Speaker 4:They hung them in the street naked right and they let everybody I don't know him and his wife and they created him around. Yeah, so he's actually executed yeah, they hung him and shot him and they had him naked hanging there so I don't know, I don't think I want to see that.
Speaker 5:I mean, I know he got killed, but I do not know, and I know for a fact ain't?
Speaker 1:nobody want to see me hung naked or anything anywhere. So, yeah, it's probably best if it shows Mussolini, I don't know. All right, well, I just want to say this Thank you so much for coming on. You guys have been freaking amazing. Uh, there's like I said, we haven't even scratched the surface here, but I'm sure we will. We'll get to it at some point. People need to check out the 1771 infield house, enfield, connecticut.
Speaker 4:These guys uh been through a whole lot guys uh been through a whole lot um, so yeah again, thank you very much for coming on.
Speaker 1:Dw, you got anything? I think that's it all right that that that means well, hold on, I got to do my thing, and here it is right now.
Speaker 4:That means that I'm holding on to Kenty's hand because she's fast with a button. Don't do it, Kenty.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 3:Don't end early, John.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to All right. You guys have been amazing. We have been Scalarius and we are out.
Speaker 3:Later.