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Ep. 69 Ghost in a Box: Real Haunted Items
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What makes an object truly "haunted"? In this riveting exploration of paranormal artifacts, we dive deep with Quinn from Real Haunted Items to uncover the fascinating world of collecting, investigating, and rehoming objects with spiritual attachments.
Quinn reveals the surprising science behind what makes certain materials more likely to hold paranormal energy. Forget plastic or iron—it's natural materials like wood and ivory that serve as conduits for spiritual energy. The most compelling evidence? A Victorian-era baby coffin currently under investigation that consistently triggers REM pods regardless of location, and a mirror from Pennsylvania that caused nightmares so intense it was eventually sold to a priest better equipped to handle its dark energy.
The conversation takes an unexpected scientific turn when Quinn explains why hauntings intensify at night. UV rays, it seems, interfere with the EMF bubbles that spirits need to manifest—explaining not only why activity peaks after dark but also why full moons temporarily quiet paranormal activity. This intersection of physics and the paranormal offers a refreshing perspective on phenomena often dismissed as purely supernatural.
Beyond the chilling stories and scientific theories, Quinn shares insights into the business model of Real Haunted Items, which functions more as a caretaker network than a traditional retail operation. Items change hands through the Paranormal Asset Network (PAN) and undergo rigorous testing before being offered to customers. Interestingly, it's often the most skeptical buyers—those purchasing small "mystery bags" containing photographs or film fragments—who end up returning items after experiencing unexpected activity.
Whether you're a dedicated paranormal enthusiast or a curious skeptic, this episode challenges conventional thinking about the objects that might carry spiritual energy around us. Ready to question what ordinary items in your home might have extraordinary attachments? Listen now, then check out Real Haunted Items on social media, eBay, or Etsy—if you dare.
Do you like stories about haunted locations, or maybe tales of cryptids and spooky folklore from around the world? If so, why not tune in to Haunted Escapes with Chris and Diane, where all this and more will be discussed? New episodes drop every Sunday, the visual versions the following Friday on YouTube. So why not come join us on our haunted escapes YouTube? So why not come join us on?
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Speaker 3:What's going on? This is galerius, I am john olsen, and with me, as always, is dw, the debilitating wart serene hey you, you gotta, if no no, no, I my thing, and that's how I do it. It was silent, though I've seen it, I know.
Speaker 5:The cans make more of a sound. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:So this one's a bottle. What are you drinking? What are you drinking?
Speaker 5:So I thought I grabbed one of my Not your Father's root beer. It's a regular root beer.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, wow, root beer. It's a regular root beer.
Speaker 5:I'm sorry, wow you're just huh, I know I'm I'm living on the edge today.
Speaker 3:You are you are living on the edge, uh dw um you'll never, guess what I'm drinking, oh um sauvignon blanc oh no, I was wrong. See, if you had been drinking that, I would have been surprised. All you would have heard is and then you know, and then, yeah, it would have been better than the silent opening that you had.
Speaker 5:Uh, so hey, I know you're criticizing my opening, all right I don't want to tell people. Oh yes.
Speaker 3:Okay, why not? Because you never know, maybe it's an opportunity at some point to be paid. But I'm just going to say this the THC beverage that I have tonight is freaking, amazing and dangerous. Is freaking amazing and dangerous, uh, because it tastes just like a beverage that we all had as well. It's gonna say kids, but maybe maybe a little bit older. You know, I don't know when did they come out? When, when? Okay, I'm just gonna say it tastes like ecto cooler. When did ecto cooler actually come out?
Speaker 3:out After the first movie or before the second.
Speaker 5:I thought it was after the first Okay, and that was when. Was it 89?
Speaker 3:84 was the first one, 89 was the second one, but I feel Ecto, I think Ecto Cooler came out before the second one. But I could be wrong. Well, if they're coming out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, either way Between 84 and 89 is when it came out. Either way it's badass, it tastes freaking amazing and it is legitimately dangerous because it's a. It tastes no, you can't taste anything, that's. I mean, there are some thc beverages that I have that you can kind of taste the, the weed in it. Essentially, this you cannot, and it's just straight like having an after the cooler and yeah, they're like 10 milligram cans, but they taste so good that you don't just have 10.
Speaker 5:You might have 10 cans, well, and isn't five like one serving, so 10 is already twice a serving like two servings.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, because in I can't remember what state it was, was it minnesota or iowa, I can't remember which one it was that they, uh, they said that five milligrams is the highest they can go. But you can have a 10 milligram can, because so I had it in Iowa. Here you can have damn near as much as you want.
Speaker 5:Because a can is technically two servings.
Speaker 3:Is that their philosophy? It works out that way.
Speaker 5:You know what that reminds me of? I was thinking it's not THC, but have you seen the Duff? I think they're energy drinks.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And it's in a can that looks exactly like Duff from Simpsons.
Speaker 3:They are not that good, oh you've had them. I have not. Well, did I taste it? I think I did. I think I taste it, I think I did, I think I did. I know the kids did. We got the kids each one, so I don't remember it being that great, you know, I think it.
Speaker 5:One of those things where I feel like people are going to buy it for the look of the can not necessarily for the taste.
Speaker 3:So absolutely, I agree 100% on that. Everybody knows this. I'm not a big doctor guy. I don't go to the doctor because I hate the doctor.
Speaker 5:Only go to the doctor if you have to, because you're about to die and you're being dragged there into now.
Speaker 3:Or that too. I'm not even a fan of Dr Pepper or Dr Scholls or Dr Scholls.
Speaker 5:I mean or Dr Doolittle, or Dr Doolittle, yeah, or Dr Doolittle. But what was the joke? The Mitch Hedberg joke that Dr Scholes didn't need a degree. Because why does it take a degree to know that stepping on something soft will feel good? Exactly Something like that. I would have bought that from a Mr Scholes, yeah.
Speaker 3:I went to the doctor Kind of dual purpose Got life insurance. That's right. Life insurance, the queen consort and the kids will be taken care of. But you know, if I just happen to be, you know, an untimely demise on my, on my part have you ever had life insurance before?
Speaker 3:I did, but I was younger and I didn't have to go to the doctor or any of that stuff, like whatever. They were like yeah, you're fine With this one, I did. They wanted blood work and this, that and the other thing, because previous John who was on life insurance didn't have horrible COVID, didn't have everything else known to man that you can think of, but anyway. So they're like yeah, you better go. So I did, and here's what's up now. They didn't tell me that they were taking blood. Well, I should have known.
Speaker 5:You know, based on the fact it's like a physical or whatever yeah um, but they didn't tell me they were taking blood, so I ate before I went and you know if you you're, I, you're supposed to fast, like 12 hours, I think, and which is, and the only reason I remember that is I usually schedule my appointments in the morning and so that way they just have to ask me have you had anything to eat or drink today, like this morning, have you had any coffee? I usually say no and then I'm good, right. So if they and the thing is I I have, um, I'm like uh, uh, the kind of concerned. I'm not diabetic, but like they, not yet type of pre, whatever, anyways, um, but also like high cholesterol.
Speaker 5:So for me, and that that's a family thing, like I don't eat lots of butter or whatever, but um, I I've, I've ever since I was, ever since I've gotten my cholesterol tested. Since I was a kid it's been high, so it, and my mom has it, my dad has it, it's a family thing. Um, point being, when I go to the doctor because I go more than once every 10 years, john when I go to the doctor, I know there's a good chance they're going to be doing some blood work.
Speaker 3:Fair, I didn't know. I knew they were going to test my urine. I knew that because you know.
Speaker 5:Well, when it comes out green, yeah, they should probably test it it never comes out green.
Speaker 3:I mean they could probably get high off of it, but that's one thing.
Speaker 5:There's THC in your stool. That's something to be concerned about.
Speaker 3:So they took my blood and, first of all, that was an experience in itself, because my veins roll and they could not get a vein. They couldn't Really. Yeah, I was like a pincushion experience in itself, because my veins roll and they could not get a vein. They couldn't really. Yeah it. Um, I was like a pin cushion. I came out I had like 14 freaking holes in me, uh, so that there was that. It doesn't bother me, they don't, they never. Needles don't bother me, um, but so they took it and I got the results actually this past weekend. So I am going to share those results with all of you.
Speaker 5:So just so you know I'm sure this is the highlight of everyone's like. Oh, I'm sure people put down their pen and paper and they're like I gotta hear this they might want to turn off the tv I want to put you know, okay, you know it, it's a paranormal and comedy podcast, right?
Speaker 3:so?
Speaker 5:and this is neither.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hold on, just wait. What I'm saying could lead into the paranormal, just throwing it out there. All right, in in one way or another. All right. So my cholesterol was a little high. Okay, uh, what is the ldl and the hdl or something like that? Right, they were a little high, do you remember what it was. It wasn't completely off the charts, do you remember?
Speaker 5:what it?
Speaker 3:was uh, 256, okay, somewhere around there. So I mean it's a little hard that's.
Speaker 5:That's actually around where mine is. I think mine's a little lower, but that's where, and which over 200 is high is high.
Speaker 3:Yeah, quote unquote. But I mean, I think most people nowadays are going to run, you know, 250s I think.
Speaker 5:Yeah, well, and and the thing is, the conversation I had with my doctor was they look at several things and cholesterol is one of them. They basically take um age, blood pressure, so on and so forth, all these things, put it into a chart, hit, enter and they come up with a percentage of, like, your likelihood of heart attack or something like that. Yeah and above, I want to say like 10 percent or whatever is concerning so so obviously they weren't too concerned, but obviously the numbers weren't concerning enough.
Speaker 3:Uh, so it was that my blood pressure was fine, it was like 140 over no, that's not bad.
Speaker 5:It's not.
Speaker 3:That's better than mine, so and then I get to the triglycerides. Uh, triglycerides, that, if ever anybody who knows or don't know, or it's the fat that's in your blood, right, um, which is also based on sugar and you know whatever, zero to 150, obviously zero, you're dead. You know right, you're not gonna have zero.
Speaker 5:But no one has zero, right.
Speaker 3:So zero to 150 is normal.
Speaker 3:Uh, you know the number, but I'm gonna say it now uh, now that's what I said like I ate like three like peanut butter wraps before I went. So I mean I think the numbers are skewed quite a bit, but just throwing it out there, zero to 150 is normal, my triglycerides 450. So, needless to say, old john, like just immediately, was like okay, well, wake up call. Perfectly like, I'm good with it. Like I said, it could lead to the paranormal, because I am whoo, I'm one stressful day, you know, from being a ghost. So with yeah, um, just letting everybody know I'm gonna stick around as long as I can. But I mean, if one day dw is just on the show by himself crying, you'll know why here's the thing if I'm ever on the show by himself crying, you'll know why.
Speaker 5:Here's the thing If I'm ever on the show by myself because you're not here, it will be the last episode. The last episode will be me saying John's triglycerides were at 1,500.
Speaker 3:And he went by.
Speaker 5:I can't do this anymore. I agree, it would basically be that. And here's the thing I don't want this anymore. I agree, it would basically be that. And here's the thing. I don't want this to happen to me. If something were to happen to me, I don't know if you'd have a show, really, because the show is the, the discord between the two of us exactly, we are the paranormal odd couple and, by the way, I don't know we are the paranormal odd couple and, by the way, hopefully they won't notice a disruption in episodes.
Speaker 5:But we are actually going to be gone for a while, but we're going to plan ahead and have extra episodes in the chamber. Basically, where are you going?
Speaker 3:by the way.
Speaker 5:I was going to go to Colorado but I'm not.
Speaker 3:It'll be okay, we'll figure something out. We'll put some bullets in that chamber and fire those babies off. On Wednesdays. We have some other things to get to, but we have to get to a guest. Uh, first of all, I want to throw this out there. Uh, if anybody would like any merch from us, please go to crowdmadecom. Forward, slash collections forward, slash glarius pod and get all sorts of really cool merch. You can get dw's here's the thing t-shirt. He said it three times already today. Uh, you can get my t-shirt and or hoodie that says I'm not trying to offend you, I don't care if I do. Um, you can get that.
Speaker 3:We have hats. We have all sorts of hats. We have the, the beanies, which you probably need right now, because I mean it snowed like 14 feet in the last couple days. Uh, also like, we have regular hats, uh, cups and uh, dog leashes and dog bowls. We have. We have everything you'd want, but it says scolarius on it, so you probably don't want it. Either way, we have it. Everything's like $30 or less. Please just go to Scolarius. No, don't go to Scolarius. Go to crowdmadecom forward, slash collections forward, slash Scolarius pod and get the stuff. What's your favorite t-shirt DW. What's the one you like the most?
Speaker 5:Well, we have the. I have no idea who John Olsen is.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, you like that one too. I see that I understand.
Speaker 5:It's in a t-shirt and a hoodie. A hoodie, yeah.
Speaker 3:I like hoodies.
Speaker 3:I'm wearing one right now see oh yeah, yeah, uh, anyway, uh, and you know you're doing all that and you're like, oh man, scolarius is pretty awesome, but I, you know what? I? I like the host and the co-host of scolarius, like the co-ghosts, I like them both. I wonder what they're doing right now. That's what you're thinking. I'm sure it is. You can find out what we're doing. First of all, you can go to DW Serene Comedian on Facebook. You can find me at John Olson Comedian 2.0 on Facebook. You can find us both together on Facebook, but we're not a couple. But we're not a couple. You can find us at the Scolarius page. Also, we do have a TikTok Scolarius8, and an Instagram Scolarius. There's a theme here. It's all Scolarius, all right. And if you want to email us, please do. It's scolariuspod at gmailcom. And if you want to listen to every single episode that we have, you can do that at scolariaspodbuzzsproutcom. Yeah, all right. So we're going to get the show on the road, or, as my old man would say, the show on the road.
Speaker 5:Wow, even for your caliber, that was pretty good it was.
Speaker 3:I mean, if I could only write them that good Anyway.
Speaker 5:Hey, side note, he's got some shows coming up, so if you want to hear more of that Hopefully they're better at the shows.
Speaker 3:Oh my god.
Speaker 3:Exactly, I would hope so, my word, people are paying for that. They're not paying for this. They pay to see me at shows Some, probably, not me so much but they pay somebody to see someone and I'll be there. So it'll, it'll work all right. So you know, I love what we do here. I love the fact that me and you you, dw, my hetero life partner how me and you, how we get along. It's a whole lot of fun. People like that stuff and I.
Speaker 3:I like the fact that we get to talk to people about ghost shit and I like the people. I, you know, I like the fact that we get to talk to paranormal groups and and things like that. And we actually, a few months back, we got to talk to somebody who had a like basically a haunted museum, right, had really cool artifacts and everything steve hummel, right, yeah, in, uh, west virginia. But now today, today, we get to talk to somebody who has a whole lot of real haunted items. Yeah, and it's actually in the name real haunted items. We have quinn from orlando, florida. Quinn, how are you today?
Speaker 4:I'm doing great. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3:doing good we're just hanging out and you know, uh, talking to each other. It's kind of I would.
Speaker 4:I would definitely be doing a lot better if I had one of those drinks that you've got. I think I'm gonna change what I'm drinking to one of those, because that that sounds better it is amazing, I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna lie. I don't know if you can get it down there, but, uh, maybe when we get off the show I'll tell you where I got it and you can hook it up on the uh, on the interwebs and see if you can get something. I don't know. Is it legal in Florida?
Speaker 4:Man, that is such a confusing topic for Florida.
Speaker 4:Okay, it's sometimes depending on who you are and what you got on you and what card you got, and if you paid in the last six months, you know it's all it's a constantly changing issue and sometimes we vote to go like, yeah, we're gonna pass that, and it passes with the majority, and they go, we don't care, it's still not gonna pass, you know, and that's literally what happened this year. Uh, so so, and then now, now we got we've got great lawyers that sue the heck out of the government and make it sort of legal, so they're in the middle of doing that. So that is in. That's a confusing subject. I. I'm going to be real.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, I understand, I get it. I don't, yeah, I can't. It's what they do with what they're doing now with the edibles and drinks and things like that. I mean, yeah, you can get it at Vegas anytime, just like that. You know drinks, edibles, cookies, you know anytime, and just like that. You know drinks, edibles, cookies. Uh, you know gummies, everything you know um, but like minnesota's doing okay, like michigan is amazing, you know. When it comes to that stuff, uh, I, I don't know, californ, colorado, oregon, I think, is legal. I think I don't know how many states are actually 100% legal, but I don't know.
Speaker 4:That gets more confusing. I don't know. I think it's a constantly evolving one.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, if it's not legal and I give you the address to where you could ship it, I mean, you know, if I give you the web address in order to order them, for you to get them, it's probably gonna, you know, cost you some money, I'm assuming, in fines and whatever else. But I mean, I think it'd be worth it because it tastes amazing, it's great, really is uh. But you know, I digress. We should get going into the reason why we brought you here, and that's uh, to talk about your stuff. You have a lot of stuff, am I right?
Speaker 4:um, I keep some stuff. Uh, we, we keep some stuff in the warehouse, but we we kind of, uh, keep things moving after a certain amount of time. Um, so we don't really hold on to too many things for forever. We like to kind of keep them moving and help re-home haunted items.
Speaker 3:You say re-home, so I'm assuming that you get stuff. Is it donated or are you purchasing it, Like how does it work?
Speaker 4:So we have a couple different avenues that we go through to get our haunted items. Some of them come from investigations that we do. Normally they're investigations that we're asked to go do and then we will help remove them if that is what the people who have hired us or have asked us to come in to investigate have done it. And then we also work with PAN, which is the Paranormal Asset Network, pan, and it's kind of a low-key group of people that exchange haunted items from their various investigations. We kind of work with them as one of their distributors to kind of keep them moving. So we have a couple different avenues that we get them from. We have bought a couple of them in the past, but it's normally just to assist.
Speaker 3:Uh, we kind of act as a dealer of the the haunted items you know it reminds me of, to be honest, and I don't know if you guys are into I know dw wasn't, but if you're into, back in the day uh, the old wrestling tape trading is is kind of like you know where you would get a tape of an event or whatever and then you would, you know, trade it with somebody else, and then they had some stuff from like Japan and then you'd have that and then you'd trade it with somebody else and all that really cool stuff.
Speaker 4:It sounds like it's pretty similar to what you guys are doing, probably not so much with the trading, but it's changing hands quite a bit right, I might have to look into that to see if I can get some uh, get it, give us some marketing strategies I'm going to be real to help us with our own you know process of everything. Um, but yeah, we, we just uh, we kind of use it to uh partially fund our own investigations. Um, finding people who respect the haunted items and get them into new hands, that are willing to kind of be the caretakers of something that has some significance, and people who just want to have experiences of their own kind of helps them hook them up with that.
Speaker 3:You know I'm going to pull back the curtain just a little bit. You know me and you. We chatted about, you know, this opportunity. I'm going to say it's an opportunity, an opportunity for you to be on Scalarious. Anyway, we chatted about you being on here and you had said to me like hey, shoot me your, your address and I'll send you an item. That's right, yep, and and and. So I was like, well, I, I looked at the, the queen consort, and I was like, hey, you know, we can get a haunted. She's like no, please, not don't. No, it's I. She just can't handle like the energy type stuff when it, when it comes to that, she doesn't want anything bad up in here, even if it's a nice little old lady she's. She just don't want to see somebody walking through her, uh, her house in the in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, but um, oh yeah, oh yeah, but no, it was really cool and I was like damn, that'd be freaking awesome. I would love to do it. I'm sure dw would just love it too. Oh, no, no, no, no no you think?
Speaker 5:you had your problems with your significant other. Uh yeah, my wife would not have been on board with it. Like, even even if I said here's a paper clip that might have the spirit of a puppy in it, she'd be like, nope, nope, we're not even going to attempt that.
Speaker 3:No, I'd end up, my luck, I'd end up with like Charles Manson's molar or something like that, I don't know, like horrible energy on this one and plaque. Oh god, it was horrible, uh, but no. So all right, you have a little warehouse, you, you go through the paranormal network there and and you have things that people have obviously in their, in their house. There's an issue, so explain a little bit about that. You go and investigate and you end up with these items.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so like, uh, for example, the items that you received, they're kind of from, um, we call them one of our, one of our little grab bags, right, um, so those all came from, uh, uh, an investigation that we did up in Minnesota. Uh, lake crystal, like crystal, minnesota, right. So we did up in Minnesota, lake Crystal, Lake Crystal, minnesota, right. So we were up there and those all came from an area where there was a bunch of scattered pieces and there was a lot more activity right around the area. They were found and we have found that when items spend a lot of time in an area that has activity, when you remove those items and put them in different situations, they will also show activity. So we collected those items and have brought them back and investigated them for a while and putting them under different situations eliminating UV rays, making sure there's no other EMF signals in the area you can kind of like see things start to happen you know, if you want to experience something.
Speaker 4:So those came from around there. You got like a photograph and some film and pages of some books, right, and those items were scattered all together and, even though separate from each other, they've shown to have experiences. Wow. So that's kind of how we do it is we go in and we just notice that some items tend to hold energy a lot more. So we like to just see what we can do with that and what we can learn from it, and after we've investigated something for a while, we want to hand it off to other people to see if they also end up experiencing something. So that's kind of one of the one of the reasons the network exists, a little bit well, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3:And you said Lake Crystal, that's just west of Mankato. Uh, right, I mean, that's, that's where you were. Uh, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, wow, that's not too far, it's a stone's throw. I mean, it's not too far from us at all. Well, it's far enough, it's a way, but it's not too far. Wow, okay, I didn't know you were up in Minnesota, but yeah.
Speaker 4:I guess you guys didn't know you were up there and it was cold.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we are in Minnesota, so you go all around. I mean, obviously, if you're in Minnesota, you go all over the nation.
Speaker 4:then oh yeah, whenever I can, we send different people to different places. I just returned from a trip to Tombstone where I was doing a couple investigations. Can't really reveal too much about those yet, but I've been to Tombstone a couple times. I absolutely love it there, so I can't reveal too much about that one. But yeah, we like to hop around.
Speaker 3:We take turns. Different groups, different members of our team, Wow so how many members of your team do you have?
Speaker 4:We have a little bit fluctuating, but we keep about 10 people give or take. We have some full-time people, some part-time people, some people that just help us here and there with investigations. So it kind of fluctuates, but around 10.
Speaker 3:Wow, that's pretty cool. So I want to get obviously to you and and your the business that you have here. So is this what you do full-time?
Speaker 4:um, I do some other part-time work outside of it, but it's like gig work and some some fun crafty things. I don't really, uh, I don't have a full-time job outside of this, I just have some other part-time work that keeps me sustained. Along with this, most of the pretty much everything from the business goes back to supporting its own investigations.
Speaker 3:Fair enough.
Speaker 4:We all do other stuff outside of it to keep ourselves going, but all pitch in to keep this. Our business mostly runs on eBay and Etsy.
Speaker 3:Nice, okay, let's get into some of the items. I want to talk about, items you, you, okay, let's. We'll start here. An item you previously had that was just off the charts All right.
Speaker 4:So there was this, there was this mirror, that that I held onto for a while, that we we end up selling to a private collector that actually happens to be a priest. I know every time it comes into it, you know it feels a little, a little less comfortable, right.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean it depends on anyway a little less comfortable, right? Yeah, well, I mean it depends anyway. Yeah, go all right.
Speaker 5:I I almost wonder if he was like trying to uh, uh, exercise the demons or whatever, or trying to, like you know, get rid of them or something, and it was almost practice for him, or he's a priest with a very weird hobby, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not the weirdest hobby for a priest, but anyway go ahead.
Speaker 4:So we got this actually through the Paranormal Asset Network right and originally.
Speaker 4:All we know is it came from Altoona, pennsylvania. We don't really know much beyond that, but all we've been told is that everyone that had had this mirror for extended amount of time had dark thoughts and became uncomfortable, right, so we kept this in our warehouse for quite a while. Right, we did every kind of investigation we could with this. I think we had to sit around our warehouse in different areas for about 10 months, and so finally I was like OK, I don't believe any of it, so I took it home. Um, terrible idea, you don't want to sleep in the same room as this mirror. Um, wow, I'm not a person that has dreams or nightmares like ever about anything, because, um, as you know, the thc tends to do that a little bit, right, uh, right, it blocks that pretty well, so I tend to not have those Right. Right, it blocks that pretty well, so I tend to not have those.
Speaker 4:Every night, that thing was in my home. I had a terrible nightmare the whole time, and then those just creeped into the day thoughts, giving me very dark thoughts the whole time. It only stopped when that mirror got removed, and that's why we ended up finding someone that we found was more equipped to deal with something like that. We that's not necessarily something we put out that is um safe for everyone, um, we try to only put out things that definitely have experiences, but not dark experiences, because we don't want to be a danger to society, so like that's. That's one of the items that we had. That kind of like reminds you of the forces you play with sometimes, you know.
Speaker 3:What interests me in that is okay. So was this priest? Is he practicing in paranormal?
Speaker 4:I think it's more of a side hobby for him.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:It's not like his. No, he is a normal, like priest. This is just something that is his, so private interest as well.
Speaker 3:What dw said is that he was probably, I mean right yeah he's. You're not going to want to bring in something that's going to bring dark energy and unless you're trying to, uh, not stop, but maybe contain the energy, so maybe that's going to bring dark energy. And unless you're trying to, uh, not stop, but maybe contain the energy, so maybe that's what he was doing practicing. It's kind of cool though yeah wow, so have you ever sold to somebody who is well known? Somebody who is well known.
Speaker 3:I, I don't, I don't think so, okay, okay, I'm just asking if good old zach baggins got any of his stuff from you you know, what I never know.
Speaker 4:You never know people could be using some, some pseudonames online. I don't necessarily know who's buying my stuff.
Speaker 5:Okay, I suppose.
Speaker 3:Yeah, fair. Have you ever had anything other than the mirror that literally scared you or anybody else on your team?
Speaker 4:to you know there are definitely items that have scared every single person on my team at some point, or not necessarily items, but definitely experiences out in the field. I'd say the only other one that truly gave me a fright, and it's just because I'm kind of a, I'm a tinkerer, I like to tinker with random things. Right, I like to. I'm a little bit mechanically inclined and we had this music box that would randomly just turn on and it drove me so nuts that I deassembled the thing and I couldn't figure out why it would turn on. And then I rebuilt the thing and a couple of days later it would just start turning back on again and I deassembled it again and I couldn't figure that out. It had no way to turn on and it would just turn on. So that one was just personally scary to me, because I'm not used to finding mechanical things I can't figure out. Okay, I said, but so like scary, no, no, maybe that, maybe that item was haunted, maybe it wasn't, but it definitely bothered me nice, all right.
Speaker 3:So let's go through the items themselves. Like what is your? I? I would assume dolls. Right, you have dolls, probably a lot of dolls we have had a couple porcelain dolls come through. Yeah okay, um, and you already said music box and things like that, anything weird like, because that stuff's normal, right, you'd be like what is like a haunted toilet seat or or any anything like that no, here's the thing.
Speaker 4:So, so what we've noticed is I, I it tends to need to be a natural product, right, it needs to be something that is some sort of natural material. So we're not going to get something like a toilet seat, right, because that's probably plastics.
Speaker 4:It's not going to hold on to that it obviously can't be something that is iron. It can't be any mineral that holds too much salt, right. So we are looking at the different items that are possible to hold on to this, on to any energy. I won't necessarily call it a spirit, but whatever is doing this, there's only certain types of items that will hold on to it. Um, but we've had, um like we've had a lot of shadow boxes come through, um that people have prayed to for some amount of time, um, indulgence boxes, if you're familiar with those uh, no, I'm not.
Speaker 4:But okay, indulgent just means, like you know you want to those boxes are often kind of uh, they're, they're associated with very specific religious practices. Um, for example, catholicism does it sometimes. Um, but it's an object that someone prays to for a long, a long enough time that we think that could also instill an amount of energy into it that causes these interactions to happen. Whether that be with EVP, emf, an REM pod, whatever is causing it is definitely latching onto these natural products or these natural materials. Latching onto these natural products or these natural materials, and whether that's from a large energy escaping from someone praying or someone passing a large violent event, whatever that is seems to grasp onto those pretty well. But yeah, so anything that'll hold onto that. So we've had those shadow boxes come through indulgence boxes, the debuck boxes.
Speaker 4:Really you had debuck boxes go through indulgence boxes, um, the debug boxes really. Yeah, dimmock boxes go through there. Oh yes, we've had quite a few of those. Those are, uh, those are common. Not all of them show us anything, so we don't send all of them out. Some of them we just kind of pass through other vendors that we're just like okay, we don't think these are actually holding on to anything, um, but if, if we end up selling them, then we have gotten some sort of interaction with them wow.
Speaker 3:So I mean a lot of people think that I mean I could, whatever, that a dybbuk box automatically means it's a negative energy and I don't, I don't know, I don't think that's the truth. Uh, as you just said, like some of your stuff didn't even really have anything that happened with them, you know. So I don't know. Like yeah, once you hear Dirk Vox, you're like whoo, you know, ears perk up, right.
Speaker 4:No, I've definitely experienced a couple that seem to have negative energies. Okay. Negative forces behind them but, like I said, we tend to not. We avoid sending out anything that gives us that negative side. Okay, we just want people to be able to have experiences, not have experiences that make them never want to play with paranormal again. Right, we don't want to scare people and never want to play with paranormal again.
Speaker 3:Right, we don't want to scare people, which is kind of weird in a way, because your name is real haunted items. So therefore, I mean right off the bat, wouldn't you think you know other than a collector?
Speaker 4:Anyway, have you ever been to Think of anything else that we're going to use the word haunted in? Okay, commercially, what is like haunted things that we're going to talk about is commercially. Anything that's haunted anymore is something that can also entertain. Yeah, it's fun, right? So part of selling these items is so that people have experiences that makes them want to investigate this more, makes them want to look into it more. You know, even if it's not necessarily paranormal, you have an experience with a Dybbuk box that we send you right and that might make you be like huh, I'm going to look into cryptids. I want to start thinking about UFOs more. I want to investigate, I want to stare at the sky and see something that I haven't seen before. I want to go out and hunt Bigfoot. You know, whatever it makes you want to do, I'm all for it. We just want people to question it. They get one of these items. They might have that experience that they've never gotten before.
Speaker 3:So can you? Are you guaranteeing an experience? No, we.
Speaker 4:We cannot guarantee experiences, because even for us some of these items we've had to put in different locations to get them to do something. But it's just a better chance of it than you've had before. We won't send it out if we haven't had an experience.
Speaker 3:So you guys do the goop and the toaster thing Is that what you do with your items. Before you set them off, make sure that they dance with Jackie Wilson. The goop in the toaster, that's a reference to. Ghostbusters 2.
Speaker 5:Where there was negative energy around the city. It was the slime that created negative energy. They put the slime in the toaster and the toaster danced to jackie will okay, okay, it's been a long time so that's why I mean it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, trust me, the reference fits all right.
Speaker 4:Well, we're not out there busting any ghosts, so all right all right, that's cool, so it's interesting.
Speaker 3:okay, so so you have dolls. How about Ouija boards?
Speaker 4:So Ouija boards are Okay. So here's the thing. I have questions about Ouija boards. We have sold a Ouija board Because one of our team members definitely had an experience with a Ouija board. According to this person and I totally believe them I question the realness of any Ouija board that has anything connected to it. Just because, to me, like, unless the Ouija board is of natural materials and it has been around something that can give it that energy, I don't think ouija boards themselves are more likely to have an energy or anything going on so are you saying that you bring the energy to the board?
Speaker 4:no, no, I'm saying is like, like, I believe like, uh, natural, natural material objects, when they're in an area that has an energy, they can absorb part of that energy and that's why items become haunted, right? That's kind of how I, how I view that and certain members of our team tend to view it, um, and that's kind of how we look for these items. So I only think the ouija board can be haunted if it has these natural materials, which means like real wood, not particle board right, like hasbro board isn't gonna work, a hasbro ouija board.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna like I don't think that's gonna do anything right but if you have somebody, go out and make a ouija board out of an oak tree right.
Speaker 4:Right, if it's some natural material, if it's stone, if it's carved, if it's wood, if anything like that, I I believe it can, but I don't believe that because it's a ouija board, it's more likely to hold an energy.
Speaker 3:I got it all right, I think it's the fact that it's what's the material made out of so like this is one.
Speaker 4:It's a hotly debated uh thing in our shop sometimes it's actually really cool.
Speaker 3:I I like that you're um explaining that, because that that makes a lot of sense in ways. My next question is what haunted item have you had that should not have been haunted? There should have been no way whatsoever. Was it a barrette or somebody's retainer?
Speaker 4:I'm trying to think of any item that just seems so weird. You know what? I do have one, and this is just weird to me Dice. We had a set of haunted dice that came through Now.
Speaker 3:I think that'd be fun.
Speaker 4:Yeah. When you're you, you know yahtzee I think, though, that they were the smallest. They were weird to me because they were the smallest haunted item that I have seen. Something do an experience with, like, because of how small the dice are.
Speaker 5:Um, yeah, do you know where they were from?
Speaker 4:I, I do not we. We got them through the paranormal asset network. Sometimes these things jump hands multiple times, um, and it was just different people passing it along to have other people research it so were they like wood or something? I uh, no, they were ivory. Oh okay, yeah, well, and when you said they, were ivory.
Speaker 3:Oh okay, yeah Well and when you said they were old dice. Right when you say dice.
Speaker 4:They were definitely old dice.
Speaker 5:When you say dice and when I'm thinking old, that makes me think like you know, old Western gambling, and maybe someone you know kept shooting their opponents and you know, somehow it stuck to the dice. I don't know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's possible or or like uh, maybe they, maybe they spent somewhere that had a lot of energy going on for a long amount of time yeah yeah, um but I think they could have absorbed enough energy to to show some effects right um, but yeah, those were the ones that just seemed to me they shouldn't have been haunted because of how small they were what is the largest item that you've had?
Speaker 4:um, the largest item we've had in quite a while is a baby coffin. That's like a victorian era toe pincher, it's a, it's all wood, wow, okay, yeah, so that one, that one, is a little weird to me that's about the size of my dining room table.
Speaker 4:I'm assuming, um, and you know, yeah, lengthwise I'm guessing right now it's probably about three and a half feet in length and it's a toe pincher so it comes in, you know, tighter at the bottom, has that traditional shape. It's definitely changed hands a handful of times. We've been we're still holding on to it and doing our investigations with it, but it has.
Speaker 3:It has shown some obvious effects wow, so you do it, you have it on you oh yeah, we we're holding on to it for now oh, wow, okay, uh, I'm gonna ask it has it been used? I?
Speaker 4:we don't know it's um, it's got dirt oh, oh, my okay yeah, I've been. I've been running some tests on the stuff I found on it and it's, it's definitely um, it's been in the ground at some point it's been around at some point, I mean for some reason it has a lot of charcoal. Huh, like ground into the wood, like there's still dirt and charcoal in the wood. So that tells me it's been buried at some point, but I have no other evidence that it's been, you know, actively used.
Speaker 5:But I mean, the thing is, if it were buried, you wouldn't bury it empty, so it probably was Right.
Speaker 4:I just haven't found. We haven't found any traces of any bodily fluids, no staining that would. That would make me think that you know there was any of that. But you know, depending on how also someone passed what they did with the body, that might not necessarily show like how they wrapped it, but I have no evidence of that and not a super clear timeline of like what its history has been. So we're still trying to trace as much of that down before we can do anything with it. So when you start investigation.
Speaker 3:You say toe pitchers, so you're talking. Probably it's a coffin. So what 1800s? Maybe early 1900s?
Speaker 4:early 1900s, late 1800s, between 1890 and 1910, is kind of what we're looking at for the time range. Uh, we do think there was a couple pieces that someone added on at another point in time. But maybe that's like someone bought it not realizing it was haunted and they were going to use it for some decor item, so they did something to it. Um, they just added some like trim to it. That's like literally all it is and it's just like the wood doesn't match. The wood is totally wrong I guess.
Speaker 3:So what occurrences have happened with in around that coffin?
Speaker 4:um.
Speaker 4:So are you familiar with an rem pod yeah, yeah yeah, so, uh, we're pretty big fans of the REM pod and pretty much no matter where we put this thing, it wants to set off the alarm on the REM pod. We put it in different rooms, different buildings, it will set it off eventually and it's one of the only items that we've had that much uh, uh, that much experience with. So we, like I said, we've been holding onto it for a while just to keep on and doing our investigation for it, but we've had it for a while.
Speaker 3:So you're telling me that there would be a buyer for it?
Speaker 4:Um, we haven't. We haven't sought out a buyer for it yet.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right, okay, um, we haven't, we haven't sought out a buyer for it yet. Okay, all right, okay. So we, you know, you always hear about this. You know like, oh, you know, hear piano music in the in the ballroom, blah, blah, blah, blah. So have you ever had a haunted piano?
Speaker 4:no, no, I've never had something as large as a haunted piano, though that. No, I've never had something as large as a haunted piano, though that would be awesome. I've always wondered with those if you could possibly like play the piano with the ghost, Like that's.
Speaker 5:Like a duet.
Speaker 3:To me it's the most traditional self-playing piano yeah. All right, yeah, very true.
Speaker 5:Have you ever had an item that someone returned because it was too too haunted, like they just couldn't deal with it, and they're like you have to take this back?
Speaker 4:yes, we we've had, um. We've had a couple items returned um. We don't do refunds on stuff, um, but we've had a couple people return um. We've got a few photos returned to us after we sent them out. And then we've also had, on two separate occasions, after someone has bought something, they have emailed us like the next day and said you know what, keep the money and hold onto it. I don't feel comfortable bringing it into the house Like they slept on it and went. That's a bad idea. Wow Gosh. Wow.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but most of the items that anyone has ever sent back to us has been like those small little mystery bags that we do send out that has photos and stuff. Those are actually the most common ones that people have experiences with that they send back.
Speaker 3:And why do you think that is? It's just too much for them, and why?
Speaker 4:do you think that is? It's just too much for them. I think that, honestly, the people who end up getting the small mystery bags.
Speaker 4:They're the most skeptical people that are going to be our customers. Right, because if you're a true believer, if you are a believer, you already believe. All of this is happening, right, right, this is happening, right, right. Um, if you, if you get one of those and you're, you think you're, you're going to uh, have an experience. You're probably going to get one of the bigger things. That's just.
Speaker 4:That tends to be why, the why when we do list stuff on our store, it doesn't last long because the real believers go for that. Right, because they already believe it. They're going to spend more money on it, they're going to get the, the uh, the box or whatever we we end up selling, but the skeptics are going to look at it and be like I'll spend a couple bucks or whatever and get the? Uh, the mystery bag, and then they'll have an experience and it will freak them out enough that they send it back or they're uh, you know they're, they're, they're a significant other or whatever might be a skeptic. And once it gets in the house and they have experience, the wife will be like no, no, no, get that out of my house.
Speaker 5:See, that's what would have happened if you had sent me something.
Speaker 4:Paul BW. If you send me your address, I got you. Nope, nope, nope, Come on let me spur an argument with your real partner and not your online partner.
Speaker 5:Oh God, oh geez, why don't you give it to John first?
Speaker 4:and then when he's done with it. I think John's already got one. John, do you have?
Speaker 3:something I didn't get it yet no, I was yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh darn, we thought I'd already arrived. We will check up on that shipping then.
Speaker 3:We thought that got to you already, but yeah, so, um, so they send it back do you recycle them?
Speaker 4:do you recycle them? We will. If something gets sent back to us, we hold on to it for a period of time. Okay, because we do feel like if someone sent it back to us, maybe they sent it back to us because it was a negative experience, not just an experience, and we want to make sure that we're again, we're trying to be, as responsible about it.
Speaker 3:Well then, we do relist it I, I think a negative experience could happen at any point because, like, just hear me out, people are people, right? Nemo ghost, at one point maybe were people, hopefully, and you know, demons aren't attached to everything, you know what I'm saying. So, but people are people. So sometimes people do not mesh, right, they just don't. So what if somebody got a mystery bag and they got there and this energy, you know, just does not mesh with either the you know the you know big daddy or big mama, however, that works there and that's why their experience turns out to be not so good. You know what I mean? There has to be chemistry there, right?
Speaker 4:definitely there can to be chemistry there. Right, definitely there can be some chemistry there. Um, so far we haven't really had too much problems with that. Um, but you know what, if they do have a negative experience, they can always find the person they really don't like and just slip it underneath their car seat, you know, and maybe, maybe, let them have a good time and see if they have better chemistry.
Speaker 3:You can always test that with someone that's actually a good idea yeah yeah, you see, now you got me and dw thinking about we might just get haunted items to give to people like I know.
Speaker 5:He's got a few in his office and I definitely have a few of my job the thing is they work close enough to you but the problem is they work close enough to me that if they, depending on what the experience is, I might also experience that. So I don't know if that's going to work. That's true, yeah, and I don't want to follow that person to their car.
Speaker 3:So I, you know, I sit there and I'm like, what you know, maybe it'd be great, you know, to get a future. And you're like, oh, I was thinking of you. Here you go, here's this.
Speaker 4:Happy birthday. Here's a random locket. Just hold on to that for a while. Thank you.
Speaker 3:Here's a random locket off of a dead girl. Here you go, take this yeah.
Speaker 5:Never mind the soil that's on it. That's from something else.
Speaker 3:Somebody else's dirt. Oh, that's good stuff, all right. So we talked about some of your cool stuff that you've had and everything.
Speaker 4:So where is the weirdest place you've ever shipped, weirdest place I've ever shipped? We've only shipped a couple things outside of the States. Okay, we recently sent some items up to Alberta, canada.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:So I think that was probably our weirdest place lately. Mostly everything is in the States when we do ship, yeah. So, yeah, I think Alberta, canada, is probably the weirdest for me, but that's mostly because I don't think I've been to Alberta.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's probably not weird at all. It's a rock. I mean, you know it's a mountain, state or territory or whatever it is. Now, what is it called? What are?
Speaker 4:they called. It sounds really cold. Providence.
Speaker 3:There we go, yeah, so all I know is Bret Hart's from there, so it's all cool, but well, okay, so of the lower 48 states, oh hell, we'll throw in Alaska and Hawaii. Have you shipped to all states or have there been some that you just not a customer at all, like Wyoming, most likely.
Speaker 4:I definitely assume we have not shipped to all 50 states. Okay, but off the top of my head I have no clue. I tend to not personally deal with the shipping on our team. All right, I tend to do a lot more of the investigations we have. You know, people do different jobs on our team and I just don't think I know. Off the top of my head well, okay.
Speaker 3:So let me ask you this too. I mean, since you are a business and and technically you're in sales, right, I mean, you are in a way, you have a warehouse, you you sell through ebay and things like that, do you have salespeople?
Speaker 4:Oh no, no, we let people find us. We don't do salespeople, we don't push our stuff, we don't do commissions Honestly, pretty much everything from the business kind of just keeps our investigations alive. But now we're not going to waste time on salespeople. Those seem smarmy.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah that's true I mean it's hard to you know.
Speaker 4:No offense, I mean I mean no offense to all the salespeople out there, but I've never been sold to and thought I wasn't being smarmy too right well, and it's hard to to uh convince someone who doesn't already isn't already interested in haunted items to buy a haunted item.
Speaker 5:Do you like haunted houses? No, not at all. Oh well, okay.
Speaker 3:I just assumed. Full functioning. You have sales people there, you have a marketing department, you have all that really cool stuff.
Speaker 4:Just you know, oh no our, our marketing department is us messing around on social media. We're all pretty new to the social media, so we're trying to figure that out yeah, I mean, I think everybody's still new.
Speaker 3:Unless you're like a 12 year old now, then you're on top of the world when it comes to the social media crap. Wow, okay, well, I was just Okay, tell me. I was sitting there thinking like we've gone over about as much as we can go. But no, I want to know some of this really cool stuff. Where is a like? Have you ever collected a haunted item out of a fairly famous investigation spot?
Speaker 4:yes, I can't be super specific on the exact location, but I did just return from tombstone ah okay, all right, yep, yep yeah, a lot of the investigations we do are like private um, and we went out to tombstone specifically for a private investigation and we did bring back a couple artifacts, but can't be specific on which location, but it is a known location in Tombstone.
Speaker 5:All right. So I guess you can't say whether or not it had anything to do with the gunfight at the OK Corral.
Speaker 4:There is a lot more activity in Tombstone besides the OK Corral, true. Yeah, there's a lot more. There is a lot more activity in tombstone besides the okay corral, true yeah okay, there's a lot more. There's a lot more I I've actually, as I've been to tombstone a handful of times, I've never personally had an experience that I could relate to the the okay corral um I can't relate any of my experiences back to that.
Speaker 4:Um, I mean, I love the story, big fan of doc holiday personally, that's my life if I can like it's val kilmer's uh doc holiday oh my gosh not dying of tuberculosis, like that's my dream right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, I've never had experience with the okay corral, so, unfortunately, no, no, nothing from that okay so have you been to the stanley hotel?
Speaker 3:I have not okay, have you been to waverly hills sanatorium?
Speaker 4:no, that would be. That would be a lucky one to to score into, I think I think everything in there like I don't.
Speaker 3:I don't know if they have anything left of any of the beds. I'm assuming it's been picked pretty freaking clean by now Probably.
Speaker 4:I do know a lot of the really well-known locations are hard to be able to get the private investigations into. So when we do luck out with those, we try to keep pretty private about them makes sense oh it says you're in florida.
Speaker 3:Uh, I have to ask you this any items you have, have they ever been collect? You know, any items you've collected ever been at?
Speaker 4:you've collected ever been at saint augustine lighthouse? Um, no, but it's. It's actually. Saint augustine is at the very top of my list for my next investigations. Oh nice, so saint augustine is is up there. Um, it's funny that you mentioned saint augustine.
Speaker 4:We've been talking about it lately very cool and maybe you'll pick up some really cool stuff there, maybe, maybe I'd love to, but I do feel like it's sometimes you run into a problem with the places that are like almost um the local. I mean, I'm in orlando, right, tourism is everything about here and everything. Everything in central florida roughly, has become some touristy thing. Um, including saint augustine, and its touristy thing is we're the really old place, right? Uh, so unfortunately they commercialize so much of that that it's hard to find authentic, real items that have actually been around a minute oh yeah, I can see that so that's kind of one of the reasons I haven't really done saint augustine yet, even with it being so close.
Speaker 4:It's just I know how touristy it is here, so I I tend to try to get away from Orlando a little bit because of how I don't know, you know how, how tourism has done that to all of Florida.
Speaker 5:Right, right yeah. But I do want to go to St Augustine.
Speaker 4:I just think I'm going to do it more as an investigation of places and not necessarily trying to find any items an investigation of places and not necessarily trying to find any items.
Speaker 3:So you're, I, you know we took a little detour there went to say augustine figured I'd you know, ask about something. So I can bring it to this. And here it is the your warehouse, the haunted items in your warehouse, how many do you usually have at one point, like at one time?
Speaker 4:That is a varying number. We've gotten down to pretty small numbers before, when we don't have things coming in the door, but we've had a decently full warehouse before. We're not a huge warehouse, we're only I don't know.
Speaker 4:We're probably about 12, 1300 square feet but that's including, like you know, our break room and all of that, um, and we do have separate rooms for different things so we can try to keep things pretty isolated from each other. So while we're testing things, they're not right on top of each other, okay, but yeah, no, we've got. We got a pretty varying number, I'd say right now we've got a couple dozen okay, yeah, so um actual items not like little things like papers and stuff.
Speaker 4:Those are kind of not necessarily that, but but things that are boxes and larger are probably a couple dozen at the moment wow all right.
Speaker 3:So how's the uh hauntings in your warehouse?
Speaker 4:I mean, is your warehouse haunted? No, no. We actually did an investigation of the warehouse before we moved in to make sure it wasn't haunted. Okay, yeah, we actually, after we rented the location, we sat on it for a couple months and did pretty constant surveillance of it because we didn't want that to interact with anything that we were bringing in. So definitely not haunted might be haunted by the time we move out of there but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That's where I was going with this like.
Speaker 4:So all the stuff in there, the energy's got to be off the charts, right sometimes, sometimes, um, we definitely do notice that, like things get more active in the night, um, um, things tend to not like uh, we assume they don't like UV rays, um, but we try to keep it pretty discreet so we don't try to have too many people knowing where it exactly is, because we don't want anyone interrupting with our uh investigations of items or trying to interfere with them.
Speaker 3:So the ghosts are vampires.
Speaker 4:They don't like. No, no, no, it's crazy. No, uh, we, we tend to think that this is just kind of like where we start to theorize about how, how the uh, how the energies or spirits or whatever you'd like to call them, how how they start to interact. We tend to at least I tend to go along the lines of UV rays themselves interfere with EMF bubbles and they mess with the ionization clouds of the EMF fields. I'm honestly not the smartest when it comes to science, but from what I understand of it, that's what the uv rays are doing and that's why you tend to see haunted locations be more active at night than during the day that's probably the most scientific thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 3:When it comes to that, like any other time, like oh, it's's haunted.
Speaker 4:I'm not like a science person. I have very much forced myself to learn some of the science for my investigations and from my understanding, that's probably the most likely explanation of why things are more active at night. We also noticed that spirits or energies also are less active during full moons, which is the opposite of what you would normally expect. But what we have noticed in our shop it's less active during full moons and we think that's because there's still more uv rays being reflected off of the moon.
Speaker 3:But that's again just me theorizing at this point but still, like I said, that's probably the most scientific like explanation I've ever heard for why it's, you know? I mean, yeah, there's hauntings during the daytime.
Speaker 4:Don't get me wrong, it happens and there must be some very strong energies to be able to do that.
Speaker 3:In my opinion and which I, I could see that, yeah, but at night is usually when, when it's popping, so I mean in that, wow, I never, that was okay. You said or say you're not a scientist, but you, you, you got me that. I was like, wow, okay, it, nice, it's actually scientific. Ghosts don't haunt because they're like whatever. Ghosts don't haunt because they're like whatever. They just want to wait till night because they can actually do stuff.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're not being interfered with by uh uv rays messing with their you know, their emf bubble, I don't know. But then again I might just have come up with all that while I was too stoned, you never.
Speaker 3:I mean, it sounds like something that would be.
Speaker 5:You used enough technical terms. That it sounds right. It sounds intelligent.
Speaker 3:He wasn't sitting there going like all right. So the thing are.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you didn't sound like John.
Speaker 3:That's not how I sound.
Speaker 5:No, it's not so all right. So where can people find Real Haunted Items?
Speaker 4:Yeah, so you can find us on the social medias like instagram, um, and ebay and etsy. Just look up real haunted items, um. And then, if you want to find me, I am quinn to the unknown, with underscores between every word on um instagram, and I just tried tiktok, so yeah oh I, okay, I just found one of your uh mystery bags.
Speaker 5:Okay, I, for some reason, I typed in real haunted items before and came up there's obviously. So there's. You type in real haunted items. You get other people who have uh, here's a voodoo cat spirit, here's a haunted skeleton key, stuff like that. Make sure people you're looking for the seller real haunted items.
Speaker 4:Yes, not just the tag.
Speaker 5:Not just real haunted items, and so we've got a mystery bag here.
Speaker 4:Okay, I know on some platforms we're also found as real haunted items for sale. I think that's what we're found on as eBay.
Speaker 3:Awesome. Well, I mean, I know where to find it now.
Speaker 5:So that's good. Sorry, that's one of the two things John does during the episode, and I stole it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know what to do now.
Speaker 5:Alright, well, let's hear it. Since I'm taking over, I'll next up, Since we've gone over where to find him?
Speaker 3:they've gone over.
Speaker 5:It's this or that. Would you stop interrupting. I'm taking over the show, so that's.
Speaker 4:Gosh I was waiting for this or that, it's this or that. Would you stop interrupting? I'm taking over the show, so that's gosh. I was waiting for this or that to come up. I was probably excited for it.
Speaker 5:Yay, and you did the last one, so it's my turn.
Speaker 3:I did not do the last one.
Speaker 5:Well, the last one. The last one was the three of us with. We actually both did because you asked yeah, I asked okay, and then, but the time before you did and I remember that because when you do it, the first 20 questions are all about food. Food, yes, and it takes like five minutes before you're done with breakfast.
Speaker 3:I like food, hence your triglycerides.
Speaker 4:I can tell which one of you guys are the smoker.
Speaker 3:I don't smoke, but yeah, he eats them now. I have to eat it now.
Speaker 5:Alright, so we're going to do this or that. I take it you're ready, because you said you were looking forward to this.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, this is the fun part, dw.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry for interrupting, but I have to ask this. I thought I was the this or that this week, so I have like two really good questions, so can, can I want to do.
Speaker 5:Do you want to do yours first, or do you want to?
Speaker 3:I'll do, do, I'll do mine after okay, all right all right.
Speaker 5:So books or movies.
Speaker 4:Books. Books can be haunted. Oh okay, Movies got too much plastic and shit in them. They can be haunted.
Speaker 5:Since you said books, fiction or nonfiction. Ooh, fiction, fiction, all right, chocolate or vanilla. If you could time travel, would you rather go to 1825 or 2225?
Speaker 4:2225. Oh, I gotta see if we, if we survive.
Speaker 5:I just I was just gonna know what happened at 1825.
Speaker 4:I can look that up in a book. I don't know about 2025. That's true.
Speaker 5:I've just noticed that a lot of the guests we have tend to go back because they want to see the stories that they've read about and stuff like that Hauntings and stuff.
Speaker 4:I've read about that. I want stories.
Speaker 5:I don't know right, okay, got a barbecue. Do you want a brat or a burger?
Speaker 4:a burger all right.
Speaker 5:Would you rather fight with a lightsaber or really suck at latin? All right, uh, mozart. Or led zeppelin, oh zeppelin, nice, okay. Would you rather ghost hunt with the ghostbusters?
Speaker 4:or scooby-doo in the gang. Oh, scooby-doo in the gang, I mean only partially, because it's got shaggy and Scooby and those are obviously like that's my dream spirit duo right there and I don't want to bust no ghosts. So Scooby-Doo Gang. Okay alright.
Speaker 5:Alright, Unicorn with a Mustache or Monkey in a Top Hat.
Speaker 4:That's funny, unicorn with a Must, a mustache, because I can't imagine that one exactly.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so I want to, I want to see it so that I can imagine, it, I can imagine a monkey in a top hat that's like that's that's easy yeah, all right, this will be the last of mine before john his is john olsen or saddam hussein I.
Speaker 4:I have no idea who John Olsen is and it's really hard to taste it on Hussein. So I'm going to say DW.
Speaker 3:Every time.
Speaker 5:It's the second time that's happened.
Speaker 3:Every time oh.
Speaker 5:I love it All right Go ahead.
Speaker 3:John, First I want to bring it back. You said something about Scooby-Doo and you said you want to hang out with Shaggy and Scooby. A little fun fact about Scooby-Doo. And you said you want to hang out with Shaggy and Scooby. A little fun fact about Scooby-Doo. Alright, His original name was going to be Too Much, Too Much Like the dog.
Speaker 3:Too Much. Yep, it would have been Thelma Daphne, fred Shaggy, too Much. That makes no sense. Know weird, but but uh, the hannah barbara I can't remember who it was that actually, uh, developed him, or you know, scooby-doo, but took the name from the end of Frank Sinatra's song when he was scatting and they thought they were saying Scooby-Dooby-Doo. No, he said Dooby-Dooby-Doo. Oh, okay, yeah, so that's how Scooby-Doo became whatever A little fun thing at the end of your All right, go ahead. Do your who's john, okay yeah funny, love it all right.
Speaker 3:So, quinn, since you're down there in florida, I have very important questions to ask you about people in florida, and here's one of them right, carol Baskin or Joe Exotic oh god, hell, that's a hard decision.
Speaker 4:I've actually been to Carol Baskin's place before the before the documentary came out. Um, she definitely killed her husband, though, so I'm gonna go with joe exotic, I, I mean because, here's the thing I met carol baskin once she's. She's genuinely nuts. I mean, joe exotic is too, but like at least he's kind of entertaining yeah yeah, wow, okay, but he's not in florida.
Speaker 3:He's not from florida.
Speaker 4:I don't think he's like somewhere else from florida, but you can't listen but he definitely radiates florida man energy like like he is florida man's spirit animal, if I ever saw one.
Speaker 3:It's a shame he's not from here, like he should be just outside of miami that's funny, okay, well, you already answered the second question, so I can't ask that, and that's fine. I was gonna say like do you think carol baskin killed her husband?
Speaker 3:oh oh yes, that's yeah yeah, all right, well, that that's fine. Um, yeah, I guess well that that was my this or that, because there was two of them and the first one, we, old joe, won it and that's good. I do not like the fact that DW was picked over me again.
Speaker 4:I just didn't know the John Olsen guy yeah. Hard to answer that one.
Speaker 3:Funny. Yeah, I love it, it's cool.
Speaker 4:I never want to offend you. I just don't care if I do.
Speaker 3:I fucking love this.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:Everything he's doing, he's saying, is my shirt, go to CrowdMaker and get it All right.
Speaker 5:Here's the thing that wasn't the plan. I was going to say you need to end with. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3:All right, here's the thing, cripers. Here's the thing, cripers here's the thing this is.
Speaker 5:I have not said cripers this whole time and all right, quinn, real haunted items you.
Speaker 3:This was fun. I enjoyed this and I like to hear about this stuff. It was good stuff yeah, yeah, fun time. Thanks for having me, You're welcome Alright. Well, DW, you got anything?
Speaker 5:Here's the thing Time to be done.
Speaker 3:Time for bed Cripers, alright, so.
Speaker 5:Dude, the worst impression of me I've ever heard.
Speaker 3:I love this. Alright Quinn, Again, thank you very much for coming on all right, thank you all right. Well, you know what that means. That means you guys have been amazing, we have been scolarius and we are out Later.