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Frighteningly Funny! Comedians John Olson and DW Surine chat with entertainers, authors and creators about their paranormal experiences, and paranormal experts to back them up! A perfect mixture of paranormal and comedy!
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Ep. 66 Haunted Journeys and Unforgettable Tales: The Doss House
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Ever had one of those moments where life feels like an episode of The Sopranos? Join us as we kick off with a tale of DW's near-miss at a THC shop and a blunder from our previous episode that left us cutting to black in laughter. The Super Bowl didn't escape our playful scrutiny either, as we imagined how rogue proctologists might have added an unexpected twist to the game. John Olson and DW, your favorite duo, serve up their signature blend of humor and charm, ensuring you're entertained from start to finish.
We're thrilled to introduce Danielle and Shauna, the dynamic co-owners of The Doss House in Loretto, Pennsylvania, who took their passion for the paranormal to hauntingly new heights. From operating rooms to mysterious shadows, Danielle's journey into the supernatural is both hilarious and captivating. Shauna's heartfelt tale of honoring her late mother's dream adds a poignant layer to their spooky adventures. Together, they've created a haven for ghost enthusiasts, transforming a haunted house into a bustling hub for paranormal exploration.
Buckle up as we journey through time anomalies, shadow figures, and the fascinating history of a barbershop with a supernatural twist. Our discussions range from psychic awakenings to the intriguing past of Loretto's haunted locales, all wrapped up with a spirited round of "This or That" that pits Ghostbusters against Scooby-Doo. Whether you're drawn by the laughter, the ghostly encounters, or the curious history, this episode promises a thrilling ride through the mysterious and the comedic.
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Speaker 3:What's going on? This is Scalarius, I am John Olson and with me, as always, is DW. The disastrous wafer cookie, serene. There we go. That was really delayed, and a disastrous wafer cookie.
Speaker 4:that was a good one yep, not gonna comment on it. That's my apology.
Speaker 3:So today we have you need to do this and nope, nope, plowing through no, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4:So mountain dew baja blast is today's flavor.
Speaker 3:So okay, you want to guess what mine is.
Speaker 4:THC something.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, Most definitely THC, something Again. You know, this is how we do.
Speaker 4:All right, which, by the way, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Go ahead DW, which, by the way, okay, go ahead, go ahead DW.
Speaker 4:I was going to say. When I had a show last weekend in Rochester, I passed by that THC shop and I thought wouldn't it be hilarious if the one time I go into the store is the time that John is actually not with me? So I was seriously thinking of going into the store just for spite, and then I wouldn't get anything and be like, do you need help? Like no, I just need to spite someone, and then I, you know, turn around and leave.
Speaker 3:So thank you, appreciate that. All right, so anytime. Many of you may be, many of you might not have cared, but I don't know. There was a little gaffe last week at the end of our episode and that was, yeah, a fat finger on my part. I was doing our signature close and instead of you know, I don't's just I hit stop way too early and we just cut off. It was like the end of Sopranos, it was just immediately, just like you got done. I don't even think we got to that, did we?
Speaker 4:I don't know, I'm not sure. And the thing is that episode has at the time, we thing is that episode hasn't at the time we're recording this, that episode hasn't been released yet and everyone knows I don't usually listen to these episodes, but that one I will listen to the end, just because I want to hear John screen up over and over again. I think it's going to be. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3:Just remember to do it several thousand times, just just throwing it out there. You know, every little bit counts. You know what I'm saying oh yeah yeah yeah, yeah. So what? What else? What's going on? Dubs how are you? How are you? Like we haven't seen each other in like two whole days. Are you doing good?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, so did you. We'll discuss this, since it's a recent event and I think we're allowed to say the actual name. I know they have a trademark on the name, but did you watch any of the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3:I watched most of the Super Bowl, with the exception of the halftime show.
Speaker 4:I watched pretty much the whole thing, including the halftime show.
Speaker 3:I was not going to do the halftime show.
Speaker 4:Well, and the thing is, I was expecting it to be much closer. I thought this was going to be a great game. I thought which it was, it was a good game, but I just thought it was going to be much closer. I thought this was going to be a great game. I thought which it was, it was a good game, but I just thought it was going to be a difference of like three or four points. So I'm really shocked that it was uh, the um, embarrassment that it was for the for kansas city my sympathy to Kansas City fans.
Speaker 4:Now you know what it's like to be a Vikings fan and be disappointed. But I was, like I say, we had a office contest no money involved, but an office contest and I tied for first place because I picked the eagles and they actually won. And it was cool because for once I was actually rooting for a team. Normally I don't have a, a, a horse, in that race, but this year I was actually rooting for a specific team and they won. So it was. It was a little more special for me this year so see, you know, I don't care who wins.
Speaker 3:You know, like I, at one point there was a post on facebook that said, like you know, my family members, like the chiefs, my friends, like the eagles, who do I root for? And I was, like you know, I wouldn't care if the game was taken over by a bunch of rogue proctologists who were giving out, you know, unwelcome colonoscopies to people who were not under anesthesia. You know I, I was like, but to be fair, I feel that would make it more watchable.
Speaker 4:I don't know, just just saying well, I have never seen that many rogue proctologists in one place. So yes, of course that would be much more interesting exactly, but no, man I don't know if I've seen I was happy with that.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I've seen one rogue. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that's all I can say, because I hate the Chiefs.
Speaker 4:Yeah right.
Speaker 3:I don't hate the.
Speaker 4:Chiefs, it's not that.
Speaker 3:No, I do.
Speaker 4:I'm a Raiders fan. I hate the Chiefs. That's you, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I despise. The Chiefs actually Like to be honest and I hate to say this because this is going out in the public ears and things like that. If the stadium collapsed and everybody died, I think it would have been like don't take it there, not like that, not saying like you know whatever, I'm just saying like either one of them, to be honest, like the Eagles usually horrible, horrible. Like I knew if they won thatadelphia would be destroyed and it's getting there and I knew that if they lost philadelphia would be destroyed and most likely would have.
Speaker 3:So you know, yeah, as we said, you know, as we're recording, it's the day after the super bowl. I'm happy as hell because the chiefs got their asses whooped and you know whatever, but still I digress, so I wanted to bring up something before we move on to. You know what we do on this thing. Uh, dw, I have noticed that ever since we started doing this whole zoom thing, if people don't know, we we do zoom. This is how we record yeah for the most part.
Speaker 3:That way we can record 150 people if we wanted to be weird, for podcasts, but whatever. But since we've been doing the zoom thing, you have not made an appearance at casa de betrothed. You have not come over. So it has been months since you have been here at the Casa de Batroth studios and I'm just kind of wondering what's up.
Speaker 4:Well, actually, and I think the last time I was there was we were carpooling to some event, so it wasn't even for a podcast, it was something it's well.
Speaker 4:Um, I I've been able to drink now because I don't have to worry about driving home. In the middle of winter when we finish with the podcast, it's pitch black and in winter could be snowy. I don't have to drive home through that um a lot of times. I'm coming from eating just moments ago to coming into my studio, so I don't have to rush to get into the car and make it there on time. So, um, it's nothing personal. Um, you're welcome to take it personally if you want, but it's nothing personal right, yeah, it is.
Speaker 4:It's way more convenient, I feel. And the thing is I I'll say this um, when I record from home, I I'll hear later, you know, comments from my wife about like, oh, you're not, I don't hear you talking a lot, is everything okay? You need to make some comments. Or sometimes she'll say, oh, what was that you said about me? I heard you said that, oh, I need my wife for this, and you know what was the rest of that sentence. So it it's funny to uh, uh, you know, go back home and and answer to those questions afterwards.
Speaker 3:So I get it. I just want to let you know, and everybody else know, that I'm ending zoom after this one tonight so you can come over here.
Speaker 4:So just saying oh well, then I'm letting everyone know this will be my last uh episode, because I'm not going to go over to this house. So it's been fun.
Speaker 3:Talk to everyone later I guess you got to finish this one.
Speaker 4:You're contractually obligated do you do you want, I, I can. The leave button is right here. Do you want me to hit that?
Speaker 3:No, let's not do that. Hey, we have things we've got to do. Hold on, we have things we've got to do.
Speaker 4:Wait, hang on. Okay, I don't have a legal notice this time.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's good. All right good, because you know things are about to get wacky up in here.
Speaker 3:And you ignore them. Anyways I do, and I things are about to get well wacky up in here anyways I do, and I don't care if there was one um. So uh, you know people out there. I don't know why I do this, because nobody really ever talks to us honestly. They don't. I'm like, hey, let's do this and whatever, and then they don't. But I, I'm just, I'll do it anyway, just because it's a thing and I'm gonna do it. So if you want to find dw, you can find him at dw serene comedian on facebook. You find me at john olson comedian 2.0 on facebook. You can find us both together on Facebook.
Speaker 4:But not a couple?
Speaker 3:No, we're not a couple. You can find us at the Scolarius page Also, we do have a TikTok that I have been putting the videos on. So you can find us at Scolarius8 on TikTok and also Instagram. We are pretty hot on Instagram Not hot like Kylie Jenner, hot Like all up in there with our makeup videos and whatever I'm saying, like what we're doing is I'm putting stuff on the Instagram page that's Scalarius. There too, you can also email us at ScalariusPod at gmailcom and if you want to, if you want to, you could. You could Listen to every single episode that we have at sclariospodbuzzsproutcom. Do that. And while you're at it, since you're, you know, if you're in front of the computer doing that thing, you could go to crowdmadecom forward slash collections, forward slash scolarius pod. You can get. What could you get? Dw?
Speaker 4:well, you can. My favorite is you can get a t-shirt that says I don't know who john olsen is. Um wait, is that hud's phrase?
Speaker 3:yeah, I have no idea I have no idea yeah, I have no idea who john olsen is. That's your favorite one, huh yeah I like that yeah yeah, you could also get. You could find this together.
Speaker 4:But we're not a couple yeah, we're not a couple.
Speaker 3:You can find that shirt right there at the Crowdmade page Also. Also, we have like cups, we have like you know.
Speaker 4:We have cups, we have mugs, we have hats. We have shirts and sweatshirts, the hoodies We've got the leashes dog poles, collars.
Speaker 3:Sweatshirts Put it sweatshirts.
Speaker 4:The hoodies. Get ahead of the hoodies. We've got the leashes, dog poles, collars.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for your hellhounds or hellcats you want to put your cat on a leash, you can do it. And you can do that by getting your leash that says hellhounds on it, which is weird, anyway, if you want to put your cat on a hellhounds on it which is weird, anyway, if you want to put your cat on a hellhound's leash, you can do that just go to crowd made, you know, forward slash collections, forward slash scleros pod, and you can.
Speaker 3:you can do that yeah or you can just go to crowdmadecom and search scleros, whatever you know you want to do. Yep, yep, you're sorry, oh man this might be your last episode.
Speaker 4:I'm just saying I'm throwing it oh, I'd like to thank everyone for joining me on my oh, stop, it's not your last.
Speaker 3:you were with me till death or the end of this episode, I'm not sure which one whichever coach might not be far off, yeah. You know what? No, my cholesterol is okay. I think I don't know. I don't go to the doctor.
Speaker 4:How would you know? You've never been to a doctor.
Speaker 3:I've been to a doctor, dw. I just don't go to there regularly.
Speaker 4:Yes, but you were dead at the time, so I don't know if that counts.
Speaker 3:True story, uh, but either way it's okay. Uh, what do you think we should we get on with this?
Speaker 4:We should get it, we should get on with this, because I can see I can.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, you're either irritated with me or I'm you're irritating me. I'm not 100 sure what it is, but something's happening here that we need to get on to the, to the guests, because I feel like well and continue this. It's going to be an argument right and we've I can.
Speaker 4:We can see them on video and they're laughing, and so I'm I'm having a feeling it's going to be three against one pretty soon.
Speaker 3:So yeah let's get this started, because All right, yeah, you just like that, it's OK, all right. So you know, hey, I figured, why not? I'm going to. You know, I like to get people on here that obviously are paranormal enthusiasts, that are paranormal investigators, that have paranormal things, and also the cool things is like when they have a whole freaking house that is basically all paranormal. And I decided I just kind of went out and I was like, hey, let's do some stuff. And I did some contacting and whatnot. And it just so happens. Just so happens that there is a haunted house that is not wait, hold on, just throwing us out there. We had the ross house on here a few weeks back.
Speaker 3:Now we're gonna take that r and we're gonna throw it away, and we're going to take that r and we're going to throw it away and we're going to replace it with the d, okay, so, so, not the ross house, not the ross house. We're not only are we going to take the r and throw it away and put the d in there, we're putting the d in there.
Speaker 4:Okay, we're going to do that your spelling is no, it's not all right yeah, okay, anyway so but we're also going to do that. Peter's spelling is no, it's not All right. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:Anyway. So, but we're also going to travel northeast, from Ohio up to Pennsylvania, okay, and we're going to do that right now. So what I would like to do is to welcome on our guests. They are the owners and proprietors of the Doss House in Laredo, pennsylvania.
Speaker 5:Laredo, laredo.
Speaker 4:Best intro ever.
Speaker 3:Yes, In Pennsylvania. Right, I said that right right.
Speaker 5:You got the Pennsylvania part right.
Speaker 3:All right, loretto.
Speaker 5:You even practiced John.
Speaker 3:I know, well, you know, but anyway from the Doss house, how are you tonight?
Speaker 5:Hanging in there, hanging out here, actually at the Doss house tonight. How are you tonight Hanging?
Speaker 3:in there, hanging out here, actually at the Doss house tonight. You're at the house. Yeah, I am. You are. Danielle is somewhere else, she's way up north. Danielle's in New Hampshire All right, so we're going to do some do-si-do things here, so just real quick here. Okay, danielle, we chatted just for a second before we started this today and you are in New Hampshire because I'm assuming you're a traveling medical person, is that correct? Correct that is correct and your job is I'm a surgical assistant.
Speaker 6:I work in the operating room that's pretty freaking awesome.
Speaker 3:With that, any freaky stuff happen in the operating room when you're in there freaky meaning okay, I'm at.
Speaker 6:Okay, there's different take that anyway I was gonna say how long is your podcast?
Speaker 3:I mean, I've heard of things in operator. I'm talking like paranormal stuff. Has that ever happened when you're in there?
Speaker 6:Actually there has been a couple instances of things happening which kind of was back in my non-believing days per se, when my science brain was, uh, bigger than my paranormal brain.
Speaker 6:But yeah, there were some things that have happened, for sure while, like during surgeries, uh, no, mostly when the rooms were empty and we're getting set up for a trauma or we are coming down from a trauma or a surgery and kind of cleaning up or just like going in and getting the room situated and stocked for the next day. Cabinet doors open, things kind of know came off the shelves. Yeah, somebody got shocked one time just by touching a piece of equipment. That was kind of weird, but I still think that there was a short in a cord that was touching the metal equipment that they touched.
Speaker 3:But that's my scientific brain, so it does happen. That's pretty cool. I I had to touch on that. Um, so before we move over to shauna, who is like legitimately in the house that we're talking about right now, shauna, you need said. It's right now it. Shawna, right now it's going to be you. Both of you are going to chime in here, but right now I'm talking specifically to you. You're sitting there. How did you end up getting there? How did you know it was haunted? Tell the whole process, everything that's happened.
Speaker 5:September of 2023 was when unique paranormal 1.5 was born. That's our paranormal group. This originally was my mom's group. I had ghost hunted with her for years and unfortunately, september of 2023, she passed away from cancer and Danielle and I decided that we were going to continue and her honor, her group and my mom had always, always, always wanted to own a haunted location. Just, never, things never aligned for her. She couldn't find anything. So once mom passed, danielle kind of made it her personal mission to find a place and she searched for one, day in and day out, and day in and day out, and we stumbled across this place that isn't too far from home it's about 25 minutes from home and we stopped by, contacted the property owner and you know, from the outside you definitely get some super creepy vibes.
Speaker 6:And she was like yeah, this is it.
Speaker 5:We're going to get this, we're buying it. And I was like whoa, whoa, whoa, like we need to go in here, set up some equipment, see what's actually happening. And we did. The property owner at the time let us come in with some equipment they actually didn't think we were nuts, um and let us come in here and set up some equipment. And we literally started off the night with a bang and it's been non-stop for us ever since, um, and therefore we decided to actually purchase it and turn it into a location that the paranormal community can come in and investigate, to fulfill my mom's dream. And that's what we're doing.
Speaker 3:Pretty awesome, yeah, very awesome. So how did all that work? Danielle, I'm sorry, this is going to be kind of cool because I can go between the both of you and you guys can't really get. You can't get out of each other Because you're hundreds of miles away. So this is even better.
Speaker 6:She's coming up on Wednesday.
Speaker 5:So I'll get her eventually.
Speaker 3:That's true, all right. So Tanya, okay, she said that you were looking for a haunted. Would you know? How would you know if it's haunted like? How did did you just like assume you were looking for haunted places? Obviously, these places aren't just going to be like, hey, haunted house for sale. That's not how that happens. So how did you?
Speaker 6:come about it well, this, this one, um was, I couldn't find it that way, but that's not true. There actually are sites that you can go on and there are haunted places that you can purchase. There's a site called spookyhousescom actually what, I'm not joking you. Not joking you, you can actually buy haunted places on eBay, not also not joking. So I've done a lot of research and this one we kind of it was kind of weird. We just went for a ride one day, and which we do. We kind of like get in the car and we just drive with no purpose and we just see what where it takes us, and we're driving through this very small little American town and we kind of stumbled upon it Like we seen this house sitting there and I was like Ooh, babe, that house is creepy as fuck. Oops, sorry.
Speaker 3:No, you're 17. Oh good, oh good.
Speaker 6:Permission granted Yay, and she's like, oh my God it is. And I was like it just has like a weird feeling and vibe and wonder who owns it, and so we started, you know, doing a little dig in and next thing, you know, we find the owner and contact them and I mean the rest is kind of history I think it's trying to trying to get you to tell them how you felt it was haunted like oh yeah well meaning well.
Speaker 6:So when shauna's mom passed away because I was very much the person I was a huge skeptic. I didn't. I believe that there, that when we die we didn't necessarily die. I think that we're spirits, but I don't. I didn't necessarily believe that we're just kind of like a bunch of spirits roaming around and you know, opening cabinets and stuff like that.
Speaker 6:So when Shauna's mom passed away, we were there taking care of her for pretty much nonstop. Definitely. Shauna was for six weeks. She was diagnosed. It happened very fast. From diagnosis till she passed away, I think was only maybe three months total, if that. So I was working out of town and I would work and then I would drive up to her mom's and I would stay and then I'd leave there and I'd drive back to work and to help take the burden off of Shauna and and cause I have a little bit of a medical background and so Shauna's mom um, shauna's mom didn't just love the paranormal, she actually had abilities, she actually was very sensitive, she actually had some pretty awesome gifts and right when her mom was, she was really non-responsive. It was probably the last week, like about a week prior, I would say it was about a week.
Speaker 6:She basically was non-responsive. We were medicating her around the clock to keep her comfortable. She never, she hadn't spoken in days, like no words, nothing. And she would make these cute little face gestures and it's a shame because you know, people can hear this but they can't see and she would make this little smile and wrinkle up her nose at me and and she always told shauna that I, I was her girl, I was her girl.
Speaker 6:So she, I went over to check on her to you know, see, um, take care of her and help clean her up. And and she kind of made this noise and said, hey, and I, I was like mama holly, and she said come here. And I, oh my I, she hasn't spoken in days. So I leaned down over top of her and I said mama, what did you say? Did you say something? And out of like, out of nowhere, she basically said, um, the gift is yours now. And she gave me this big hug. And I gave her a big hug and I was like what are you talking about? And that was it. She went back, like laid down, never spoke another word. And then what passed away, like two days later, and after that things kind of started to get a little weird for me, things I couldn't explain away, things I didn't understand, that like what. The next night night I kind of ended up having some kind of physical attack while we were wait like still waiting for her to pass um.
Speaker 6:I started kind of I know that I'm literally going to sound crazy, because that's what I thought of people when they said these things um, I would started to see kind of shadow figures. I literally could tell you that shauna's mom's husband, who is definitely a piece of shit, um was three floors down because she was on the top floor of the their house, massive house, and that was her her room, and I knew that I could literally feel him and see him in what they say is your third eye. I could see him coming like. I could see him walking around the house. I knew where he was, in the kitchen, three floors down and I would say, and I would say he's coming here, he comes and literally there he'd be literally three seconds there he was.
Speaker 6:He was there and it was just things started, yeah, kind of being really weird for me, like I would start seeing things that I really didn't want to see, and a lot of times I would just kind of like not acknowledge it or just be like I wouldn't say anything. I would just be like okay, but lately it's gotten kind of hard to ignore particularly here in New Hampshire.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean a little wonky up there. Yeah, it's old and a lot of stuff happening up in New Hampshire, yeah, Okay, I need to step back just a second because I don't know if you can tell by my facial features. I'm kind of like whoa, I've never heard ever. And I mean I've been doing with the paranormal stuff for over 20 years for over 20 years I've never heard of a psychic or whatever abilities being passed, like I've heard.
Speaker 3:I've heard asked from like, maybe from mother to daughter or father to son or mother the father, I mean, you know, mother the son or whatever, but non-relation and just kind of like you know that, wow, that's, that's mind-blowing right there. And then the fact that you never had any inklings or experiences before that, and then to have it happen and immediately, you know, have stuff happen, is that's crazy and I'm not saying like you're thinking, I'm saying crazy, like oh, you're crazy, I'm just saying like wow, that is just yeah, no, no no and and I can't, and I I think in a way, maybe it's like holly's site.
Speaker 6:It was like hindsight is 2020. I, I think, not necessarily. Maybe did she pass something to me. I think she knew it was there and she kind of helped me. Maybe yes, because the thing is I can't legitimately say that I hadn't had experiences before Holly or before I even knew Holly. I just kind of ignored them or I kind of Explained them away.
Speaker 5:Explained them away.
Speaker 6:Or like oh well, that shadow I just seen in the mirror, it was from the somebody walking out on the street and the sun reflecting off the whatever, whatever I always kind of or like oh, that little boy I just seen up on the steps must have been one of my kids, even though I hollered for my kids and nope, they were both outside. So all of those, I kind of just ignored it.
Speaker 6:If yeah, Okay, so I kind of just ignored it and then I think it was there and I think she knew that it was there, but I didn't, I didn't want it to be there, if that makes sense, because you really weren't involved in the paranormal very much at all, until my mom passed away, I sure was not, it was like an addiction to tattoos.
Speaker 5:As soon as she got a taste of it after mom passed away, it's been feet on the pavement running ever since.
Speaker 6:Which I also have addiction to tattoos.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, that means who doesn't really. You know, like, once you get one, you need to get more. Shawna, do you have the gift, like your mom did?
Speaker 5:I don't have near the gifts that my mother did have. I do have some abilities and more. Like again, like I went on these adventures with my mom just because I wanted to hang out with my mom through the years, Never really believed anything, like as a kid. Like your mom's telling you this stuff and you're like, yeah, right, whatever, You're so full of shit right now. Like, just like when I try to tell you about grown up stuff, you're like God, you're so full of crap right now. So I did it just to hang out with her.
Speaker 5:But then as I got older I started to actually listen and pay attention but didn't really start to divulge in it until after she passed away, unfortunately. But I do notice I'm a lot more in tune with things than I thought. Visionary, seeing things. Definitely my senses of feel have changed dramatically, but nowhere near clear, close to what danielle does, nowhere clear. I was actually just told my friend britney, who's here with me tonight. Um, as we got here that you know lately like danielle has literally been blowing my mind with the things that she picks up, hears, hears from spirit, communicates with us, and then we actually validate these things with facts, Like I did I just told her tonight. I'm like every day Danielle tells me or says something new and it literally just blows my mind. So but yeah, nowhere near that, but definitely a little intuitive.
Speaker 3:Wow, I mean, that's pretty cool. I have to go back to danielle, for just this is fun, I like this. Oh yeah, because she's saying something. And then I'm thinking, wow, that's a good question for you. So, with that being said, uh, being a surgical assistant, correct? Yes, all right. So you're in the area when things are happening. People are coming in, they're probably trauma surgeries or, even worse, right at points, the, I guess, awakening of your ability. How have you noticed anything different when you're in the operating room?
Speaker 6:actually, uh, yeah, whereas it I can and I know this is gonna sound weird too um, I can actually feel things more. Before I it was kind of like for well, for 27 years that I've been in medicine, we're just kind of like kind of taught to not really feel. Like it's just like we're kind of robots, like we do and like, especially if a trauma is coming in, you kind of just do what you got to do without even thinking and it's all kind of getting done. And lately it's it's almost like I can feel a lot more emotion per se, like it's almost like I can feel, even though they're alive still, it's almost like I can absolutely feel how the patient is truly feeling. Or and I actually have kind of felt how past patients have felt and I don't know if they're past patients that might have passed away, I don't not sure like when I'm walking around a hospital, I can feel different things. I can hear different things now and sometimes see different things that I didn't before, or maybe I did and I just didn't want to.
Speaker 3:Wow, man, this, oh, it's too bad. We can't go Rogan style Just talk about this stuff for hours, Cause I feel like we probably could. We're going to try to keep it as brief I'm not gonna say brief, because it's never brief, but we're gonna try to keep it as close to whatever. Whatever happens happens. I'll just say that. All right so, but I have to move on to the actual house itself. The history of the house. Obviously, it's in Loretto. See, I did it right this time you got it. Where is Loretto Pennsylvania?
Speaker 6:In the mountains of western Pennsylvania. It's about an hour and 20 minutes south of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3:Very cool.
Speaker 5:Isn't it east? Is it east. Yeah, it's east of Pittsburgh, there you go Go Pens.
Speaker 3:Anyways, all right, you came about it by basically seeing it in an. What did you actually find it in the website? That website?
Speaker 6:you were talking about or no?
Speaker 3:we were just actually driving around that day wow, and you just you're like, hey, this one we need to look at well somebody had mentioned it to you and then I was like, what is this house about, whatever?
Speaker 5:and so you were just like, well, let's just go for a ride.
Speaker 6:And then we came out and drove past it to see what it was all about and why people were saying it was a creepy place because we were also driving around that day, because there was a couple other places near the towns that I grew up in little towns just and had always kind of frightened me when I was younger and I was like wonder if they're still there. Let's see, if they're still there, I wonder if we can buy them. And we drove to a couple of those ones which they are still there and I we're actually looking into possibly getting another one. But, um, and yeah, then I was like, well, I know where loretta is, so let's go out and see what these everybody's talking about. There's this creepy little house somewhere. Yep, they're right damn yep for sure.
Speaker 3:All right, right. So let's get back to the topic at hand, the Doss house. First of all, why Doss?
Speaker 5:That was the nickname of the barber that lived here in the 1900s to current Really Yep. So because he was the last profoundly known person in the town that lived in the home, that's why we named it the doss house very cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and is that barber haunting that house today? Absolutely, really, he sure is all right are we talking like Floyd the Barber on Andy Griffith's show, or are we talking like? Sweetie Todd like where are we at there? Is he damn near Jack the Ripper, or is he a nice old yeah?
Speaker 5:he's like a grumpy old guy, he's just like he comes across stern, you could tell he was a very strict man, very set in his ways, type of man very you know, of course, from the interpretation yeah, I was going to say very old school ways.
Speaker 6:Yeah, like man of the house, very old school.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I was going to say very old school, If you understand what I mean on that one. Yeah, like man of the house he made the rules he called the shots? Yeah, very much so. And why do?
Speaker 3:you come across with that. Were things said Like on EVPs or like what? What made you?
Speaker 5:oh yeah, come to that goss has actually come through on on an evp spirit box. I believe we also got dos. We get barber a lot, um, a couple times. I think we've gotten this, have we get? Did we get the sound of the clippers in the very beginning, danielle? Because we've only been in here since oct 31st was the day the first day we opened this place up, so this is all still really fresh and really new for us too. Um, but yeah, definitely you get a lot of men names that come up over there because that you know that was a place for the men to be and hang out in the town. He was the only barber of the town, um, so you get a lot of men and you know that type of chit chat over there and we have found if we take a group of all women over there, we get absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 6:You could have a group of six women, and if you throw one man in there, it's going to be just all the difference, yep.
Speaker 3:Wow, he's misogynist. Okay, all right, sounds all right, told you old school, yeah. Well, I mean yeah, I mean old school, yeah, but still I mean there's it gotta be nice.
Speaker 5:I mean we did, we did here too, like because originally when that barbershop was put here it was his own entity, it wasn't attached to the house, so the barbershop was a men's place. The historian across the street told us all about this. That's where the men went and women weren't per se allowed, so it was where men went to get their hair cut and have dude chats, like dudes do, whatever that may be. But yeah, it wasn't a place for women until his wife became ill, um, later in the 1900s, and then he opened up the side of the building to put a ramp in and connect it to the house, and then that's where um she ended up towards the end of her life was in that space over there.
Speaker 3:So is it still there? Is the barbershop still there?
Speaker 5:A hundred percent Yep, it's still here, yep, we actually have the barber chair in there, a lot of his tools that we found here in the house. We actually found his original mirror. We found it in a back corner in the basement, so we have all of his stuff in there set up for him. So yeah, it's pretty intense. Like this is a really old. I don't even know what kind of barber chair that is. Danielle will know. Oh, what was the name of?
Speaker 6:them. I can't believe that I forgot. It Doesn't begin with a K.
Speaker 5:Yes, brittany. What's the brand of the barber chair? Yeah. We're all gonna be like oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, because I was like oh my god, those are so old and so expensive yes, you guys think about what the brand name is and I'll tell you a quick barber story. My dad used to go to the barber shop and get his hair cut, I don't know why. Because he was going very bald, like he had a very bad receding hairline, and then he would take that hair and slick it back and cover up his bald spot in the back. You know he had to get his hair cut. You know that's when he went to the barbershop and then he ended up getting having my mom do it, who was a beautician at one point, but then my mom cut off the top of his ear and then he never had that happen again it was so funny nice, is that why?
Speaker 3:you shaved all your hair off no, that's just because I yeah, I'm just I. He uh, my hair comes in patches. It's weird. I look like a very big, you know, like jason looked like in. Yeah, when he came out of the water and friday the 13th that's how my hair grows in for you can rock that man for real so, uh no, she cut off the top of his ear.
Speaker 3:It was funny because my friend's dad we were kind of like brothers, you know, like we all hung out together and everything so his dad was waiting to get his hair cut by my mom too. So my dad, she went snip, cut off the top of his ear, and my dad just like he jumped but he didn't say anything. And then, just so he wouldn't freak out, jerry, essentially, and then so he just kind of reached down and picked it up. You know, oh my gosh, he just kind of reached out and picked it up you know, oh my gosh, you just kind of reached out picked it up
Speaker 5:whatever, yeah too bad you didn't know, danielle, then she could have just glued that sucker right back on it was that that's funny but okay, so that, that's.
Speaker 3:That's a good. But my, my uh barber shop experience was this I'd go with my dad and then the barber would have comics on. It was just laying out and I was smart back then and I knew what comics were really good and I knew what comics were really crap. So I would take my crap comics from home. And I knew what comics were really crap, so I would take my crap comics from home, bring them to the barbershop and exchange them for the good comics that he had. So I ended up with really good comics and then the kids or whoever was waiting there got like I mean, it was some Archie's, some like um, so you were an incognito thief.
Speaker 5:Yeah, okay, I'm not incognito thief In other words.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to say thief, that's not true, because it was like this for that. You know what I mean. But it may have been a nickel comic for a $10 comic. You see what I mean. But either way, look at it. Did you remember the name of the barber chair yet? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6:I think it was Theo. Was it Koken? Yeah, it's a Koken Koken.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 3:All right, dw did it. He got it. I was like he's going to be Googling it here shortly, yeah.
Speaker 4:I just googled old barber chairs and it's one of the. It was one of the only ones that came up that started with k, so that's very cool.
Speaker 3:So you had the barbershop. That's connected there. You had the house. What's the size of the house?
Speaker 6:oh small so I'd say maybe 1200 square feet now Maybe.
Speaker 5:I mean like, like the living, the original part of the homestead. I'd say this room is probably like 15 by 20. And that's the original part to the back, which is probably about 12 by 20 on the back, with a staircase that goes upstairs and then there's a little breezeway that takes you over into the kitchen area, which was then added on after that, which that's probably. It's not as deep, so I'd probably say that's about 10 feet by 15 feet, and then you have the barbershop attached to there, above the original building there is a one-bedroom, with another small room directly above, and then you have a creepy-ass basement.
Speaker 3:I'm assuming not finished.
Speaker 5:No not finished, not finished, not first yeah so all right.
Speaker 3:So it's roughly 12 1300 square feet. How many bedrooms?
Speaker 5:one large bedroom and then a teeny tiny room that at one point was a washroom but then later used to put additional children, because the last family that was in here had five kids. Holy crap.
Speaker 3:In a small house like that, mm-hmm.
Speaker 5:Yep, wow, we'll say the bedroom upstairs. What do you think? That is Probably 12 by 12?.
Speaker 6:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 5:Yeah that they had two adults and five children in.
Speaker 3:Wow, yeah, okay, what part of pennsylvania is this? You said western, like the where, where? Are we talking here. These are these kids. These kids have one head right. It's like this is like yeah, like you said, the mountains, so this is the appalachians, right, we've been here before, we've discussed this we know it's a mountain mountains very, very catholic town like not a very wealthy area okay, all right
Speaker 5:um, so I I have a feeling that played a big part in that. Um, you know, have what you have, take care of what you have, be thankful for what you have and stick together as your family unit, I think was kind of more this area's type of way of thinking and living. Um, and yeah, like I said, very small, super religious catholic area. Um, you know, and they did as they could financially wise, they did add on space over the years and proceeded on with the what was it? 1940 something when the barbershop went on? Is that what we found out with the records Actually?
Speaker 5:the first actual toilet was put in with plumbing.
Speaker 3:Wow. Was put in then, but prior to that there was not uh functioning bathroom facilities um running water was here um, but yeah wow, I just have to point this out, see, see, like I'm obviously the asshole. Instead of thinking that these people might be, you know, not in good financial state, that you know, instead of thinking that you know that they're poor, I'm thinking that they're mutants and they have freak children.
Speaker 5:That's where I'm at Definitely, not Definitely not Definitely we're very poor. Were were very poor.
Speaker 6:They were, they were very poor see, that's you know, I'm tired of being an asshole now I was gonna say now you feel like an asshole exactly, yeah I thought the same thing, like where did these people wash their ass?
Speaker 5:like how did they stay clean, or what this, that the other. So when we talked to the historian frank across the street, he's like, well, back in those days we just took our soap down to the creek over here and we all just, you know, you wear your bathing suit down there everybody went down there and cleaned up. I said, yeah, but what did you do in the winter? He's like just boil your pot of water, pour it in your basin and there you have it like that. So this was literally just a way of life around here, for so long.
Speaker 3:But see, that's like. I'm sorry that like that. That's weird because modern technology, even in the 1940s there was running water, there was electricity, there's a lot.
Speaker 5:You know things like that and they had running water and electricity. They just did not have plumbing. Right, yeah. So they didn't have a way or a place to actually install a bathtub, because back then I'm sure a bathtub was very expensive and then to have the plumbing put in for that was probably very expensive. So they just adapted to that way of okay, we're boiling our water and filling up the basin and get in and wash your hiding like just get on with it, and you know hard for us to understand, because we can't imagine being like that, but I
Speaker 3:guess that's the way yeah, they're poor, plus they have three-legged kids. I get it I understand I know, I know what's going on, all right, so tell us about the experiences there. I mean, obviously you have, you had groups stay there yet oh yeah, a lot we've had quite, we've had a quick, we've had quite a few so far.
Speaker 5:Um, I'll let I'm gonna let danielle tell you about what happened the first time we were in here.
Speaker 3:I was going to say I want to hear personal experiences, but I want to hear some things that you've heard too about.
Speaker 5:I'll let her tell you about what happened with us, and then I'll tell you about what's happened to the last couple groups.
Speaker 6:So the night that we got a hold of the owner at the time and she let us into the house and we went in. There was five of us there was me and shauna and our daughter chloe, our friends, uh, beth and and brent were there. And now, mind you, this house, when we went in, it was, it was, it was a house from the tv show hoarders, so there was not much space, there was just it. It was, it was something. It was really something, um.
Speaker 6:So we got in to kind of have like ptsd. We get into the living room where we set up our like we put our equipment down and kind of just sit in there. And you have to kind of picture it like we're in this, you know what, 10 by 15 by 20 room. There's a couch, a love seat and they're kind of shaped in like set in the shape of an l and sits in the middle is a coffee table. So on the little love seat sits shauna and chloe and on the couch sits our friend b and beth.
Speaker 6:And now everybody's trying to find something that's kind of clean to put on the couch so they can sit on them. So we find some like garbage bags and stuff like that, and I'm standing at the end of the coffee table and everybody's sitting down and our friend Beth just walks over to the couch and she turns to lay her garbage bag down and the biggest bang like I swear it was like a cannon went off, happens. The floor actually raised me up. The bang was so big that I kind of jumped up off the floor. Everybody sitting there could feel it on their feet and I was like what the fuck was that? Now, mind you, the day before when we went and we looked at the property with the owner, we went to the basement like it's hoarded out except the old basement, the old basement.
Speaker 6:There was nothing in there not one thing in that that basement, the new basement what we call the new basement poured it out the old basement, nothing in, but the back door wouldn't shut and it wouldn't lock. So when this bang happens, I'm thinking there's somebody in the basement, there has to be a squatter or something. So me and Brent are like like, okay, we're going down to the basement. So we go running outside downhill into the basement, have a flashlight, and I'm like so what are you gonna do if there's a squatter in there?
Speaker 6:and he's like I don't know so he picks up a tire iron that he finds on the floor of the basement. I'm like okay, there you go, beat him to death. It's like okay so he's like we're going in, we're like magnum pi with flashlights and tire irons and go in, look around nothing, nothing at all. We go to the back basement nothing. The heat vents aren't touching the the, the root, the ceiling. There was nothing out of place. I was like what the hell could like? What?
Speaker 5:the support beams.
Speaker 6:They checked all the beams all intact, not not busted. So we have no idea what that bang was still to this day. But it was enough to kind of get everybody kind of kind of getting ready to go, that's for sure.
Speaker 5:Well, and Brent the skeptic he's like oh, it's probably just the house settling. And Daniel was like you dumb ass, a house would sink if it was settling.
Speaker 6:not lift me up off of the ground Like he's like oh yeah, true, true that I was like in this house has been settling for over 200 years. How much more does it have to settle?
Speaker 3:yeah, it's probably not much settling left after that I mean not really.
Speaker 6:How old is that house? 1810, 1810 it was actually the first house built in the town, really, yeah wow, I mean, I understand.
Speaker 3:Now you're telling me it's kind of a poor area and everything. I would assume anything over a two-bedroom. They're like wow, he's rich, you know? Yeah, that's my.
Speaker 5:Have you guys ever been or seen pictures of the Hinsdale house up in New York?
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah.
Speaker 5:It's very similar to that.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so the place itself isn't super tiny, it's just like a lot of little rooms hooked together.
Speaker 3:Right, I got you. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So your first experience there was, I assume, DOS probably banging on the floor or something. Like get out of there you creeps it literally sounded like a shotgun went off under our feet literally is what it sounded like it was creepy so what has happened to people there, like as they're staying and everything?
Speaker 5:we've had a couple people see shadow figures in different spots of the house. Um, we have different people we have that have come in who claim there is I mean, in the basement definitely holds a darker energy. We don't know what that is yet. Um, you know, we don't throw the the d word around out there. Definitely don't feel like it. It's anything in there that is going to hurt anybody. But it's definitely a different energy in that space, in the crawl space, than there is anywhere else in the house.
Speaker 5:We've had a lot of groups get growled at, but we've also had a lot of positive feedback children's voices, evps of women oh man, I'm just trying to think. Evps of women oh man, I'm just trying to think. Most recently and it's on a lot of our social platforms a local group here near us called Dark Hollow Paranormal. They were in here. Something had got the attention of some girls over near the staircase and they went over to check it out and in that moment something had growled at them, startled them. The stairwell light flicked on One of their. What was that? There was a doll or like a motion sensor doll or something in the dining room that then started playing music and then they took off running screaming at the top of their lungs Screaming running women, yep.
Speaker 5:So when they got a, hold of me because we have cameras running in here 24-7, so they asked me to pull up the footage to like see if what they were getting was legitimate.
Speaker 5:And I pulled up the footage of the bedroom upstairs as well and in the moment, of all the screaming and yelling and chaos, the REM pod upstairs in the middle of the bed started going crazy. So they got the growl, the light on the screaming and running and the REM pod activity on the bed all at the same time. So that was really neat. We get a lot of great mag light activity in here, lots picked up on. The another group that was in here got tons of stuff on their sls and again lots of um like shadow figures.
Speaker 6:They catch and see crazy evps trying to think of like some other west virginia paranormal had an amazing estes in the barberhop like that was probably the best estes I've ever seen, the most intelligent response I have ever seen you'll have to you'll have to explain to me what is so, as this, um, the estes method is basically uh, you go into an area, um you're blindfolded and you have sound canceling, uh headphones on so you can't hear anything.
Speaker 6:And then it's connected to kind of like an SB7, like a spirit box, so it plays at a certain speed, like kind of your mix, like a rate of white noise yeah. Yeah, like it's like a mixed FM white noise. So when that's happening and you're talking like you're talking to spirit, who's doing the estus method can't hear us. It can just hear if spirit comes through the white noise on the box, through their head, things.
Speaker 5:Well, and the person with the headphones on, you kind of have to go into like a slight meditative state to try to like just clear your mind. You know, hearing nothing, seeing nothing, is the most important thing and in those moments, certain work, you'll only be able to hear certain words and that relevance to that Estes method and that barbershop. That night, everything they asked audibly, the response that came from the gentleman that was under estes was right on even to the description of items that were in the room. Like it was crazy wow, yeah, it was.
Speaker 6:Yeah. If you guys uh look up West Virginia Paranormal, I think they're on TikTok and all of that YouTube, all that stuff YouTube. You get to watch that Estes in the barbershop. It's crazy.
Speaker 3:Wow, it is spot on it is, it is spot on. I was gonna say, you know, I didn't know, shauna's rig there was mobile. I'm like, the moment you said there's dark energy in the basement, I'm like, well, I mean, if you're there, you might as well, go now we can find something I mean I will go down.
Speaker 5:unfortunately, your viewers can't see anything but um, definitely I will go down there, but Brittany is going to go with me, because I will not go down there by myself.
Speaker 3:I was just sitting there thinking, like some of the coolest stuff you know, you were mentioning shadow figures and everything like, but you also said that you have cameras on 24 seven. So let me just ask you this, because I'm looking at you and the and the listeners can't hear this. I mean, well, they can, they can hear it, they can't see it. They can't see it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, sometimes I get my senses wrong, anyway. Um, so they can. They obviously cannot see this, but you're sitting and you have two doors behind you. Yeah, the oval doors well, not doors themselves, but it's, it's an entrance doorways. Doorways into a hallway now could be tricks in my eyes.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I don't know what britney's doing or whatever else, but um over what would be your right shoulder this one yep, um, it was lower down, probably chair level okay whatever, and I thought I saw like movement and I was like huh, and I kept focusing on that exact area and I haven't seen it since, but I wanted to just tell you that. And then you're like, oh, there's shadow figures. And I'm like, okay, I wanted to tell you that. And then you're like, oh, there's shadow figures and I'm like, okay, there's one.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. I'm like, okay, I see it. And then you said cameras on all the time. So let me ask you, with that being said, do you ever get any shadows going in that hallway? Do you guys see that at any times?
Speaker 5:I haven't seen anything in this particular space behind me. About a week and a half ago a friend of ours, sarah, was in here and we caught on the cameras. Standing in the kitchen and there's a little breezeway, there was a big like a big scraping noise and a thump that got attention and everybody was like. That was that you look over to the left towards the dining room. But when I played it back on the on the video camera footage, so you're standing there in the kitchen and you right before you see the reaction, you see a shadow shoot through the breezeway into the dining room. There's there's a black shadow that shoots through that air and then area and then everybody turns to the left, walk through that freezeway into the dining room and then again upstairs in the crawl space.
Speaker 6:You hear the REM pod going nuts so that I have caught.
Speaker 5:Recently it seems like when people I caught one on the camera at work.
Speaker 6:Oh yes, that one was crazy.
Speaker 5:That one was nuts. We actually had a time loop on a time loop stuck on the cameras for a while. I was actually in here putting new memory cards and everything. And I was just walking back out the door with my son because, again, like I said, I never come here by myself. Ever, never, ever will I ever come in here by myself?
Speaker 5:And we were just walking out the front door and she called me from work and she's like hey, where are you? And I said I told you I was coming with Christian to fix, you know, put these memory cards in the cameras. And she's like, were you just in the dining room or the kitchen? I said no, I was in the living room. I'm walking out the front door. And she's like there is a figure that just walked across the kitchen and I was like, nah, I was like literally shut up. So I walked back in the house, walk over to the kitchen with mind you, but I hear the camera making a funny noise. Well, danielle said on her end, it was like going from day to night vision, it was like clicking that back and forth and I'm like, well, I don't see anything, I don't hear anything. They said I'll reset the cameras.
Speaker 5:We did that and then she's like, well, that's not the craziest thing. Craziest thing is the date stamp on the camera says it was December 31st of 1969 at like five something in the evening. And I was like what? It doesn't even make sense. These cameras didn't even exist back then. So I log on to all the other cameras. All of the other ones were correct, except the one in the barbershop. The one in the barbershop which is the adjacent room to it, side by side, said January 1st of 1970, so New Year's Day at 7 something PM. So I'm like that's really freaking weird. So I try to reset them, factory reset them, reboot them up to the modem. Now everything's run through the internet.
Speaker 5:So where is this coming from? Nothing changed. Dates are still stuck there. So I call the security company. What is going on? We don't. We've never heard of this before. We don't know. You know we'd be happy to replace your cameras for you. And I'm like, well, no, I don't want to replace my cameras, I've got a haunted house. I want to see what the heck's going on with these. So we left them and they continued like that for months. The security company had us even try to change the time zone to like over in China. Time Select that set. You just saw it again, didn't you?
Speaker 3:No, look to your left, look to your left, look, oh shit, yeah your left. Look to your left, oh shit yeah, your left yeah. I don't know if you can see anything going on, but I can see something. Guys, you can see this right. Look right above. I'm assuming it's the. What is that the mantle? Look right above the mantle On her left side.
Speaker 6:On the mantle.
Speaker 3:It's right above it, kind of floating, it looks like.
Speaker 6:I don't see it.
Speaker 3:There's a light over there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, my screen of myself is too little, I can't see it.
Speaker 6:I'm looking right over your shoulder. I don't see anything.
Speaker 4:You guys try john.
Speaker 3:No, I'm I'm serious, I swear I'm telling you, if I walk around this house with you, you'll probably see several things it happens all the time watching whatever it is, move on top like it's right above the top of the, and I'm sitting there thinking it's not, it's a different light. It's not that light there is. I can see light like there's a chair sitting there. Right, let's go and like what the hell is going on. They don't know anything anyway. There's, there's a chair sitting there and the light looks diagonal because of the way the door jam looks right. But if you were to look, um, if you guys.
Speaker 3:Oh see, I can't see that much of your picture okay, I was gonna say danielle and dw, you can probably see. I see I have. I. I'm lucky enough to where the screen is big every time you guys talk no see, it's not for me.
Speaker 6:I'm gonna walk over there. I'm not getting like as much of a picture as you're seeing because, like the chair you're talking about I know is there, but I can only see like the very front of it this side or the other side?
Speaker 3:lower, higher, right there, right in there, what is?
Speaker 6:that what is it?
Speaker 5:it's a key it's a key it's a key yeah he did yeah now okay, hold on, now this goes.
Speaker 3:Paranormal investigators I never once said it was anything paranormal, no, I never once said it was a go right it was movement. I said there was light. Now the idea right there is to go find what, what it is, and 100 and that's what we do.
Speaker 5:Yep Debunking is always top priority.
Speaker 4:And just to clarify you're on your second can of THC.
Speaker 3:That's just not honestly, does that really matter? My faculties are fine.
Speaker 6:It must be legal in Minnesota.
Speaker 4:Yes, the one who couldn't form a complete sentence. Yeah, his faculties are fine.
Speaker 3:People are hearing what you're uh seeing, yeah I just, I just, I just mixed up my senses, that's all I did.
Speaker 5:Yep, okay, the key moved sure oh yeah, back to the time warp. The cameras were stuck for a long time. They just re-loop themselves, they re-loop, and then, after new year's eve, what was it? Maybe a week later, everything was back to normal and fine that is crazy.
Speaker 5:People come here their watches, stop their phones, turn off you leave your phones goes into sos mode um. A woman named sarah was here and her smart watch said she did not exist for 12 hours of her day, from the moment she left her house until the moment she got back home, because she was here all day long wow, yeah, why do you think that is?
Speaker 3:I mean, is it in the mountains? Like wouldn't I say, is the town in the mountains? Yeah, all of our towns that are in the mountains there, though, all right so, with that being said, limestone courts, all that good stuff, you know it's yeah well we live 20 minutes from here and it doesn't happen to us at our house Ever.
Speaker 5:Ever, ever, never, ever and we live 25 minutes from there in the boonie boonies, all of our local shopping and everything everywhere else. It only happens when we come here. Huh.
Speaker 3:Now, since we're going to go out of the house. Okay, so it's old, 1810 you.
Speaker 5:I mean, how many owners does it have, at least?
Speaker 6:women. Four to five yeah we, we want to say we have found deeds of five.
Speaker 5:Okay there was a period of time, though, that it was like transferred to like three women within a short amount of time very short to what?
Speaker 5:to this woman, back to this woman, to another woman, back to this woman who then it was. Back to this, the original woman, who then now had a different last name. So it was very odd. And then, um, dr leo t little, who lived here for years and years and years, but the house was never in his name, eventually got the deed put in his name for like four months, before he then sold it to the last owner, to the barber.
Speaker 5:So it was. It was very weird how the transfer of ownership of this place bounced all over the place so it was in a lot of women's name to begin with is that I was gonna say?
Speaker 3:is that why dos got got all mad about it um? Maybe so when did he pass, when? When did he leave the house? Well, I, I should say he's probably hasn't left the house, but but when? When did he move on, so to speak?
Speaker 5:Danielle would know that date better than me.
Speaker 6:He, he, he passed. And September, on September 11th 1980. Oh 84. 1984.
Speaker 3:I just celebrated my sixth birthday. I woke up on that day when he died. I woke up that day and I woke up, I rolled out of bed and I was like you know what? I'm going to go watch Revenge of the Nerds. That's what I did on that day, I'm 100% sure, in 1984?. Yeah.
Speaker 6:Well, I was born on September 11th.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 6:Yes.
Speaker 3:September 10th, obviously.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I'm September 11th.
Speaker 3:Nice Congratulations, Virgo. That means you're awesome.
Speaker 6:That does mean I'm awesome.
Speaker 3:Shauna. What's your zodiac, your horoscope sign?
Speaker 5:Pisces.
Speaker 3:A Pisces. Alright, very cool. I'm assuming they are good right. Ask my wife. I don't know. I'm assuming they are. Yeah, they can. They're good right.
Speaker 5:Pisces ask my wife, I don't know.
Speaker 6:I very much. Yes, she is. She's the sign that I needed, for sure, because I am the fire and she is the one that keeps the fire under control isn't pisces an earth sign.
Speaker 3:Is that right or no is?
Speaker 5:she fishy fish.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's right. Yeah, a water sign.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you're out there, you're out in the ocean um all right living my best life.
Speaker 6:There you go so I Two THCs. He's out there too.
Speaker 3:I'm not that far out there. Will you stop? Will you stop, Anyway? So 1810.
Speaker 4:I didn't have any keys that I could Stop it.
Speaker 3:That was valid, valid I'm sorry to say that that was.
Speaker 5:I'll argue that, but that's why I was like let me go check this out, because I'm not seeing what he's seeing.
Speaker 3:And there, there we had it yeah, so okay, the house was built in 1810. It had several owners. Um dot. You said dos was the last person, that he wasn't the last person that lived in there he was the last owner. So what's been, what's going on for the last 40 years in the house?
Speaker 5:Well, once he, once he, passed away his was it his youngest daughter inherited the house.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right.
Speaker 6:I think it was his, one of the oldest actually.
Speaker 5:Oh, okay, one of the oldest daughters, and she lived here until she had to go into an assisted living facility, and then the house sat empty for about a year and a half. Okay, so we stumbled upon it just in time.
Speaker 3:So do you guys know if any of the past owners have had any experiences there whatsoever? Yes, yes. Really, and who was it?
Speaker 6:it was the dos's family um in 1976 actually was having a lot of um issues happenings in the house, unexplained things, um, and according to the historian of the town he stopped over when we were over there and cleaning up the house and he was like so uh, just wanted to let you know. Back in 1976 he's like it was kind of hush hush, nobody really talked about it much. He said, but um Dawson, his wife, had a paranormal investigation team come into the house and I was like oh really, I was like for what, what was happening? And he's like I don't, I don't really know because I it was a family thing so I didn't want to be a part of it. He said. But afterwards Doss said to me, um, that they found a not so nice energy causing some mischief in the basement and that's all he said.
Speaker 3:And that energy obviously stays there. It's there, it's there still.
Speaker 5:Oh, 100% Wow.
Speaker 3:Okay, so you said a paranormal investigation group. I mean, who would it be if I didn't ask this? This is their neck of the woods and this was during their prime. It wasn't the Warrens, was it?
Speaker 5:We have no idea.
Speaker 6:We don't know.
Speaker 5:There's no record of anything.
Speaker 3:Frank had no idea, unfortunately, no, we have no idea who it was okay, well, I'll just say this um, the warrens would know, because they documented everything. So if, if, by chance, uh, tony spera, who obviously nesper over there, um, he, him, his wife is, was their daughter or is there, you know.
Speaker 3:Either way, they're gone, she's still alive, so it still is right, it's not what yeah, she's not the past tense, they are correct, okay, so, uh, so they have the records and they'll probably be able to, uh, let you know. So if you want to know I want to know yeah for sure yeah let's see if, uh, if, the warrens were the ones that are down there. So I'd yeah, that'd be great that'd be kind of cool and it would be something cool for the dos house.
Speaker 6:You know you could you know, just to have that validation right that's the big thing for us is, as we're uncovering things and we're trying to do like dig into history and we're trying to actually find legitimate, like answers, not just kind of like that's. That's what I think is most important to me is to try to actually connect some of the dots and have legitimate britney has actually been really good with that.
Speaker 5:She digs deep into actual facts and articles and she tries to pull a pull all of that stuff up for us, so that's been super helpful. She's a history guru that's cool.
Speaker 3:That's always fun to have. I'm real big in history. I love it because I always felt that you have to know your history before you know your future. Right in order for two, because history always repeats itself one way or another yeah, and if you don't learn from history, then your your future is screwed.
Speaker 3:Yep, so you've had, you say, dark energy in the basement. I'm going to go there one more time and then just kind of so is it felt, or is it more, like things that have happened down there were just more malicious than the rest?
Speaker 5:I mean, nobody has been physically hurt in this in this house, okay, um, and I don't.
Speaker 5:I don't feel that this energy I mean it just depends on the day and the way the wind's blowing, I guess, um, because there's some days in here that it does feel like something horrible is going to happen to you. It takes a lot to get a rise out of Danielle, and it literally chased her out of this house twice so, but then other days, like you can sense that the energy is there, it likes to toy with you, like it leads you on these goose chases all around the house, um, why it's other spirits from talking. It's just a very dominant presence, energy, if that makes sense, um, but then other times, other times you don't really hear much from it at all, and then other times it's more just like oh, I'm here to just control the show, and other times you get a sense that it's just very angry with whatever's happening, um, and that you actually get that energy from the basement and the crawl space that is between the living room and the upstairs as well, but the energy throughout the rest of the house is not that way.
Speaker 3:Huh, why do you think it stops?
Speaker 5:And does it go through everything? Well, I think whatever happened in 1976, they did something here to kind of contain it, like we've had sessions and I'm trying to remember who the other group was that had a session. I can't remember, I can't remember the group's name off the top of my head, but it was basically begging for someone to set it free and to let it out. So to put it in a visual perspective. So off of the dining room there is a door that goes to the basement perspective. So off of the dining room there is a door that goes to the basement and, mind you, we found a lot of religious artifacts in this house, a lot of them hanging on the walls. We left them where they hung. There is a cross hanging on the door that goes down to the basement, and when you're standing at the bottom of the stairs we call that the new basement. And then there's a walkway that you have to kind of duck down through to go into the old basement. There is a very old, creepy looking cross hanging above that doorway as well.
Speaker 5:No idea why, who would put crosses in those places and for what reasons, we don't know. But we're not willing to risk that and because several people have gotten an energy begging. You know, let us out. I didn't do anything to be here or trapped. There was an Estes method that somebody did in the dining room. Am I remembering this correctly, danielle? I can't remember who it was, but it was basically. This energy was basically telling them I was trapped down here for no reason. I'm being held prisoner. You should feel bad for me, so come and let me out.
Speaker 6:Yep, I remember that Estes method. I cannot remember which group it was.
Speaker 5:I can't remember who it was? Yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 6:Their response was because they basically were like yeah, no, we're not going to do that, you're going to stay there.
Speaker 3:So has anybody done an Estes method in the basement? You said barbershop, but in the basement. Okay, how'd that work?
Speaker 5:In the basement. So what comes to my mind recently?
Speaker 6:I did that one where it said she's mine. I did. Yeah, you got it when you screamed at you guys.
Speaker 5:Through what was it? Spirit talker? None of us had ever had that response. It actually said f you, with exclamation points at the end of it. We've never gotten that anywhere. Um, a cat ball actually flew off of the wall down there. Um, there was a black shadow figure seen reaching around the back of I think it was you in the chair touching the rum pod next to you because, that's when I was doing the rest tests yeah, there's a lot of cursing down there, a lot of name calling down there.
Speaker 5:The most recent one, Sarah, was under Estes method and for some reason this house dislikes one of our team members, makes it known all of the time that they can't just they can't stand Amy, they hate Amy. She's even brought gifts to the house to try to figure out why the house says things to her in particular and under Estes. About a week and a half ago I was asking the questions and I said hey, you know Amy just brought you a gift. You know she's really trying to figure out why you don't like her. You know, can you tell me why you don't like her? And immediately in that, in that moment, Sarah said because she's a see you next Tuesday, Right, and it's happened several times and we don't like. Yeah, we don't know why, but it acts that way towards certain individuals that come in the house crazy.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, is there like suspicions that it's the old man? He's a grump, he's a cuss, he doesn't want to deal with anything.
Speaker 5:I don't think so. I feel that it's two totally different, separate energies. I never feel that type of energy from the barber. For sure we do have a doctor and a dentist here too that have showed up. Several women who have shown up. There was quite a while there in the beginning that we were constantly being told to go dig in the basement. There was a woman that was continuously begging us to go dig in the basement.
Speaker 6:All the time.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 6:And we did have a medium that we brought through the house, like right after we bought it, just to kind of give us an idea, Like before nobody investigated it except us, like before we bought it. And then we started cleaning it out. We brought a medium in to just get a feel of the house for us and one of the biggest things she, she said was you're supposed, you're supposed to dig in the basement, like you're supposed to dig in the basement.
Speaker 6:She wants you to dig in the basement, we. She wants you to dig in the basement. We're like who is she? And that was the first time we heard it. And then, ever since then, we get it a lot All the time All the teams get it a lot. They're like why we're always being told to dig in the basement. So that's kind of weird for us.
Speaker 5:Okay, if you ever saw the basement, you'd understand.
Speaker 3:Do you have a stir of echoes thing going on there? You have a girl buried in your basement somewhere, maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 5:I don't ever plan on finding out.
Speaker 6:Me neither, because then they're going to close us down because it becomes a crime scene.
Speaker 5:I mean I don't ever plan on finding that one out.
Speaker 3:Okay, what if it's a hundred year old crime scene?
Speaker 5:I mean, they don't know that until I mean no-transcript for folks, that's for sure like I said, if you, even if you only have a night to make out of it, we we let you stay to sleep. You know, we want everybody to be safe and get home safely, so if you need to stay longer to sleep, that's never a problem that's awesome.
Speaker 3:So, okay, 250 to 350 a night um you. I mean, what's the amenities? What do you have? Do you keep the we have heat, we have running water.
Speaker 6:We have a toilet that actually flushes.
Speaker 5:We have snacks.
Speaker 6:We actually have breakfast sandwiches that you can purchase. Energy drinks, water. T-shirts, sweatshirts, long-sleeve shirts Unlimited coffee.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's good.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we put in here everything that we wanted to have. When we went places Like we were like oh man, it would be so nice if we could have a nice hot cup of coffee right now, but you gotta drive 45 minutes to find a town to get a coffee. So we made sure that we had free.
Speaker 5:Yeah we have free unlimited coffee in here for everybody all the time bottles of water energy drinks, snacks, because there's no stores super close, no rain, and making sure we had heat in here was a number one. So, yeah, we got all those things working and got her going because they were all not working.
Speaker 4:So we had to redo the plumbing and we had to redo the heat and wow well and that that is noteworthy because a lot of houses we've talked to, because they're usually older buildings, some of them don't always have heat or running water or a bathroom in the house and stuff like that.
Speaker 5:So it's good to point that out. Yeah, yeah, it was important for us to at least have those couple of things. We know, you know, some places it's just unreachable or yeah, and I mean we're paranormal investigators as well and we like to do it.
Speaker 6:But we don't like to just only do it in nice weather right, you know what I mean like, and it's kind of like a it's, yeah, it's. It's kind of kind of sucks, honestly, in the winter time for paranormal investigators, because there's not a lot of places out there that have heat.
Speaker 6:And you might be able to get away without running water, but heat right now that's a big to do. So that was kind of important to us, because everybody kind of gets that little itch in the dead of winter Like, hey, let's go find some ghosts. Yeah. And but we're all kind of like no, because I don't want to have to put on my hunting suit kind of thing you know what I mean. You can literally come in and be comfortable and just and do what you like to do.
Speaker 3:Talk to some spirits yep, I was part of a team. We went to a theater that was obviously closed and old and it didn't have heat and we stayed the night, slept on that, the floor of the old theater, whatever, or tried to sleep on the floor because the other building didn't have heat. So, yeah, yeah, heat is very important and obviously, like that's, that's pretty awesome. So, with the amount of people that you've had go through there, the groups and paranormal investigators and things like that, like what, like, what would you say? Your percentage of activity is Meaning, like people that have gone through or stayed and nothing happened, versus people that have stayed or been in there for an amount of time, you know that's, you know, indignant of you know know.
Speaker 5:No, I'll just stop you right there.
Speaker 6:We have not yet had a group in here that got absolutely nothing so 100 at this point now, mind you, we're only what four months in okay, we're only four months in so, but as of today, we have not yet had a group in here that got absolutely nothing and, quite honestly, even like we've had, and I mean, we all know like we all have different techniques and we all look at things differently and some of us are way more gung-ho than others. Um, even some of the groups that have been in there that aren't super like die hard, like like us right, they're more kind of just chit chatty, don't really have a lot of equipment, kind of are there just to kind of eat pizza and whatever, have a good night, what. They've even got things and they're not actually really investigating very hard. They've even got stuff.
Speaker 5:So yeah, well and yeah, and there is a level of magnitude of activity like you could have one group in here that gets, you know, a couple hits on a rem pod, some unexplained k K2s, a couple cool EVPs, but that's really about all they get for the night.
Speaker 5:Then you get the next group that comes in here that catches three or four shadow figures, a disembodied voice, a big bang in another room you know to. Again three nights later, another team that comes in that you know they get some tripwire activity, some good communication on a mag light, a couple EVPs and that's it. And then two weeks later you get another group in here that you know they leave so happy and tons of evidence and they can't wait to show you all this stuff, to show you all this stuff. And we've even found too that a lot of people, even if they don't have a super, overly active investigation, then it was, you know, mediocre for them. They did get some things, but then found the bigger things after reviewing all of their evidence. So yeah, like I said, thus far nobody so far has walked away without something memorable happening here.
Speaker 3:Now, does that include you guys? No, Now what I'm saying is you're there all the time. So what is your percentage? Like your group's? 100%, that's pretty good. Those are good numbers, but, as we all know, paranormal activity does not go on and off like a light switch. Right, correct. So what's your numbers? What do?
Speaker 5:you guys do every day. My number is 100%. Right, really I have not Every time I come in here. Something happens Every single time. But I know spirit can feed off of my fear, because I am fearful of some things. I don't have that in check yet, which is why I always have to have somebody with me. But also, having someone with me validates what just happened to me, because they're experiencing it with me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's two for one Right.
Speaker 5:So 90% of the time I come here, my friend Brittany, who is here with me tonight, is always with me and she'll experience everything that I'm experiencing Now. As far as Danielle goes, she's actually come over here several times on her own, so I can't speak for her on what her percentage is.
Speaker 6:I'd probably say my percentage is 70%.
Speaker 3:Still. I mean you're talking. I mean it's a pretty high number. Seven out of ten times. You know they say in baseball all you have to do is hit the ball three out of ten times and you're a success. Four out of ten times you're a you. Four out of ten times you're a first battle hall of famer, no doubt. Seven out of ten times you go in that house and something happens to you.
Speaker 5:Brittany what's your percentage?
Speaker 6:There's been a couple times that I've been there alone and nothing has happened.
Speaker 5:I would say your percentage is 90 to 100. Yeah, Our teammate Brittany said every time she's been in here something has happened. 100% of the time she said not always something massive, but it's always something.
Speaker 3:I'll be damned. So now we'll get to. Probably we get footsteps a lot, yeah, a lot Damned. So now we'll get to.
Speaker 6:Probably we get footsteps a lot yeah.
Speaker 3:A lot. Oh yeah, I'm sure that's pretty. I mean, footstep is a pretty common activity.
Speaker 6:The dishwasher is pretty cool though too.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, the clanging of pots and pans. We get that a lot. Like hear it audibly, or like I'll just I'll just randomly check in on the cameras to check on the house at night. Oh yeah, I hear that all the time.
Speaker 6:We actually get a sound notification and she'll pull it up and she'll be like and then she'll hit record and then she'll send it to me and she's like listen to this, what do you hear? And I'll, I'll pick it up and I'll open it and I'll, I'll be like somebody doing dishes. She's like exactly, it's empty, there's nobody there.
Speaker 5:I'm like somebody's doing dishes or like the other day we got like a big bang of metal, like yeah that was weird and then, five minutes later, something that sounded like like a hissing growl, but but it had to have been right next to the camera because none of the other cameras in the house picked it up. So, like occasionally, you'll get like a rice burner car drive by that trips every single camera in this house.
Speaker 5:Every single camera in this house will get a noise detection from that, but that this day it sounded like it should have been outside. That's how loud it was, but no sound detection was detected anywhere else in the house.
Speaker 6:Just in the kitchen. Yeah, so that one was weird. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 5:So, and that's what's cool too, because people will find stuff on their evidence. And then they'll be like, hey, shauna, pull up the camera footage in the bedroom at 102 AM and let me know if you hear or see anything. They'll be like hey, shauna, pull up the camera footage in the bedroom at 1.02 am and let me know if you hear or see anything. And you know, it's cool to kind of correlate the evidence, to say, oh yeah, this is what, and I can download it to my phone and send the footage right over to them right in that moment and then they can link it up with what they caught. So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Or, hey, we got a trigger on something and we don't even charge for it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, we don't charge for that. But yeah, we or they think something was there and we pull our footage up, doesn't mean there wasn't something there, but we'll say no, like we got no trips, no motion, no sound detection, and that makes it easier for them to move on to the next. So wow we're all about. We're all about debunking and trying to prove things to not be found rather than them actually being found.
Speaker 3:But it's gonna be kind of hard to you know, sit there, debunk when you're living in I mean we're not living, but own that house if it's, if it's that active. I mean, what do you?
Speaker 5:I mean there's only so much you could debunk well there is, and when it becomes the point of being unexplained or, you know, unable to make fact or fiction out of it, I mean, then you only have one of two ways to to go with that. So you just have to, at that point, use your best judgment and if your intentions are true, then that's all that matters at the end of the day. And not everybody's going to always agree with you. Something could be totally 100 evidence to you, but it could be total bullshit to somebody else, like they're going to try to explain that away in their own way. But my opinion to each is your own. It's all about your own personal experience and how you communicate with paranormal and you're being respectful and having a good time. At the end of the day, that's all that matters to us.
Speaker 3:Yep, you said at the beginning of this episode that the reason why you have that house is because it was your mom's dream to own a house, so 100 let me ask you this uh, how would your mom feel about the doll's house?
Speaker 5:she would be ecstatic. She would be here more than me. She would have probably asked me if she could move in. She would be ecstatic with everything that we're doing, you know, carrying on her group, having this haunted location. Um, we're having a festival here in Loretto this summer for her. Oh, wow, yeah, so you know, it's just, it's right here, like I, yeah, creep it Real, creep it Real.
Speaker 4:Festival this.
Speaker 5:June, june 21st, in Loretto. We have some pretty big names coming in. We have Patty Negri coming in. We have Santiago Cirillo from the Walking Dead coming in. Oh, wow, we're going to have tons of vendors and some podcasters and, yeah, just like lots of food vendors. Good time fellowship, that was what my mom was all about bringing people together in a positive way. You know, togetherness and kindness was her big thing. Don't forget the tattoo artist, babe. Oh yeah, um in respect, oh yeah tattoos.
Speaker 3:Definitely, can't forget tattoos. That's freaking awesome. I was gonna say you know, I wanted to ask you that before leading into this, because we're we gotta wind this down. Dw, who's tired yeah he is yawning like a mother over there.
Speaker 5:Alright, he is like cropping me up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's something else, jon's monotone voice puts me to sleep. That's probably why we have so many listeners. They turn you on just before they go to bed.
Speaker 3:To be fair, that's what I would do, just saying. I'm just saying, um, where could our wonderful listeners of scolarius, because they're all over the place. All over the place, if anybody knows that, but all over, even, even j, even, japan and France, the French, yeah, all over. Where could they find you, meaning the Doss house? Where can they find you?
Speaker 5:They can find us on Facebook the Doss house of Loretto on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok of Loretto on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. And we actually just had our website launched today, which I haven't even got to tell Danielle about. Good friend of ours, Larissa Rex, has finished our website. There's a couple of little things under construction, but everything from booking the house to tickets for our special events, for the festival, anything that we have up and coming, any specials we might be running at the house, anything in regards to unique paranormal 1.5, our ventures that we go on upcoming podcasts, or just anything and everything in regards to the Doss house and unique paranormal 1.5, you can find us at the Doss house Dash PA.5. You can find us at the Doss House.
Speaker 3:Dash PAcom. Freaking awesome, we're on.
Speaker 6:YouTube as well, but that, oh yeah, we're struggling with that.
Speaker 5:That's kind of yeah Slow moving. We don't have enough viewers yet yeah, I hear you YouTube.
Speaker 3:We're on our second go around with youtube. I'm testing it out before I do anything crazy. So, um, yeah, just keep it in mind for later, but I'm just all right. So, with that being said, we, we do this thing as we close out our show, and what that is called is this or that, and basically we just ask you questions. We get to know you, get to know you in just a very superficial way, just right below the skin, right about tattoo level, that's just. We just know you there. Okay, all right, are you ready for this or that? And this is the cool thing, since there's two of you, you both get to answer the question. So, and wait, I got one more question, dw. Is it my turn or is it your turn?
Speaker 4:I think it's my turn.
Speaker 5:I think he needs something to put a little pep in his step and get him up to that get him up to that golden, that fancy golden microphone he has there all right.
Speaker 3:Last week we did each other no, I mean, oh, stop saying things that are disgusting.
Speaker 4:That sounds bad gosh even this is why we're not a couple, because I don't want to be associated with that kind of crap, no wonder he doesn't come over to your house. Right, thank you, danielle's, on my side.
Speaker 6:What's the actual?
Speaker 3:He's my hetero life mate. No, I'm not. Okay, anyways.
Speaker 4:John, you need to stop so I can do my. I'm going to do this or that All right, this or that?
Speaker 3:Danielle Shada, are you ready for this or that? Ready. All right, all right, do that again so.
Speaker 4:I got it. I can handle this. Thank you, go ahead All right. Would you rather build a snowman or a sandcastle Sand, would you rather? Build a snowman or a sandcastle. Sandcastle, oh, that was in unison. Alright, we're having a barbecue. Do you want a burger or a brat?
Speaker 5:Burger Meat is meat.
Speaker 6:Burger.
Speaker 5:I'm going to go with the brat.
Speaker 4:Okay, okay, I'm gonna go with the brat. Hmm, okay would you? Rather ghost hunt with the ghostbusters, or scooby-doo, scooby-doo, scooby-doo that one was a tough one.
Speaker 3:I did that last week. That one, I don't know like that. That hurt that hurt.
Speaker 4:Here's my philosophy my only motivation all right, you've perfected a time machine. Do you want to travel back to 1825 or forward to 2225?
Speaker 3:back back you kind of thought?
Speaker 4:with the house you wanted. Yeah, would you rather have your own personal butler or chef? Chef is it preferable to sing in the shower or in the car?
Speaker 5:oh that isn't even fair, not for you, it's not me, that's car I sing everywhere she does oh, if you haven't noticed, that was my first word on the first phrase on the podcast tonight.
Speaker 6:She sang it.
Speaker 5:I'm going to choose car just because I have to pick one, all right.
Speaker 4:Would you rather ride a roller coaster or the Ferris wheel? Roller coaster, nice. All right, pirates or ninjas Pirates.
Speaker 6:Yeah, definitely pirates.
Speaker 3:I dig the pirates Raiders.
Speaker 5:I think of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That's cooler. Alright, and our last one John Olsen, or lizzie borden oh shit, john, I love you, but I'm going with lizzie borden I mean yeah sorry bud, it's all about the paranormal man damn and I mean yeah that okay.
Speaker 3:So, dw, are you at least a little happy? That wasn't, listen, that wasn't the who the hell? You know, I haven't heard. I have no idea who John Olsen is, who's John Olsen, and it wasn't that one.
Speaker 4:But you, you have me being seconded by an axe wielding murderer they would rather there be a slight chance they'd get killed with a hatchet than hang out with you.
Speaker 5:I did give you some love before. I was like yeah, moving on to the dead chick Fair enough.
Speaker 4:I just like. Any time they have to think about it, you know when they go ummm, go ummm. What should be an obvious answer. They're like well, we don't know if she did it.
Speaker 3:So yeah, no one's for sure that she gave the 40 whacks, but.
Speaker 6:But I want to go try to find out. I know, sure that she gave the 40 whacks Not for sure, but Well, I want to go try to find out. I know we could just call.
Speaker 5:John, we could just call John after.
Speaker 3:Yeah, damn See.
Speaker 4:Still Well, and actually can't you go to, Can't you stay at the house? Absolutely.
Speaker 5:We're actually going there in March, oh cool, okay Are you going to?
Speaker 4:stay the night. Yeah, we are.
Speaker 6:It's my wife's birthday gift, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, march, Wait, is that right?
Speaker 5:Yeah, you got it. Yep, you got it. Hangover day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:March 18th the day after St Paddy's yeah, wow, my daughter's March 8th. Okay, you got it. It's the track time. I'm assuming, alright, well, you know what she might be a track time. I'm assuming. Assuming, yeah, all right, well, you know what. It was a really fun idea, uh, getting you guys on here and talking about the dots house. I love the history, I love the fact that you know you got a pretty much a grumpy ass sweeney todd running around. Uh, you know I I'm interested in man. I gotta get you guys back on sometime in the future so we can get more long form into this, because there's a lot of stuff to unpack, a lot of unpacking the house I don't want to learn yeah, I don't think we even scratched the surface, to be fair and we haven't because
Speaker 5:we literally have the surface to be fair, and we haven't because we literally have only been in here a couple months.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and we'll have to talk after the Lizzie Borden house and see how that goes and then see if maybe there's a possibility somebody would pick me before Lizzie.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I don't know. I'm talking to somebody in't know. You know, I don't know, lizzie, probably not, that's true, that's true. Well, alright, I hate to say this, but it's getting to be Betty by time. So, thank you, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5:We're getting ready to go investigate. Oh yeah, what right.
Speaker 3:Where I met by Betty Bye was just somewhere else than here.
Speaker 6:It's definitely Betty Bye. Some of us have to get up at 5 am and go to surgery.
Speaker 3:Well, I cut meat sometimes. Is it surgery?
Speaker 4:Either way, way, it's all cool all right way to make your job feel way more important than the rest of us.
Speaker 3:So yeah, no, it's, it's what I do. Anyways, that's what I do. Thank you very much for coming on. It was a lot of fun. Um, I know you have other podcasts that you might be doing, but you they're not going to be as fun as this one, I guarantee you. But it's, it's all cool. Thank you guys for coming on.
Speaker 5:It was great thanks for having us thanks for having us guys you're very welcome.
Speaker 3:I got one more thing to say, dw, I'm gonna do it right?
Speaker 4:yep, all right. Well, make sure you hit the right button.
Speaker 3:You know? I guess you probably know what this means, because I know what this means. That means that you guys have been amazing, we have been Scalarius and we are out Later LATER.