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Ep. 64 Ghostly Tales and Unconventional Lifestyles: Harley Horkey
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Journey into the realms of the eerie and extraordinary as we build excitement for an upcoming Japanese-themed paranormal show on Scalarious. Our episode takes a nostalgic twist with iconic moments from "The Simpsons," setting the stage for a lively discussion on ghostly encounters and the personalities of spirits. Our fascinating guest, Harley, offers a unique perspective on the macabre with her lifestyle centered around death and witchcraft. From roadkill funerals to her collection of wet specimens, Harley's stories challenge stigmas and provide insight into her intriguing exploration of life's mysteries.
As we wrap up, Harley provides a glimpse into how her unconventional interests impact her dating life, and we share a laugh over morbid humor and breakfast preferences. Whether it's about her taste in music or travel destinations, Harley keeps the conversation engaging and fun. We end on a high note, inviting listeners to embark on their own paranormal adventures and connect with us for more spooky fun. Gratitude fills the air as Harley reflects on her first podcast experience, and we thank our amazing listeners for joining the adventure.
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Speaker 3:What's going on? This is scolarius, I am john olsen and with me, as always, is dw.
Speaker 4:The doggy style worry wart serene oh, I don't have a can to uh.
Speaker 3:Uh, there we go what are you drinking there?
Speaker 4:so I'm uh recovering from something. So I am being lame today and I just have a big old cup of orange juice. So because I'm trying to get better, you know, I just I don't know what it is, but uh, yeah, it's been. I was knocked out the whole weekend. I went to work today, but you know word from home and I don't know, maybe I'll sneeze on someone tomorrow and we'll find out what they have.
Speaker 3:Sounds like a plan. Do not sneeze on my queen consort, anyways. Being knocked out all weekend sounds amazing. I know that you are being a lame-o and not drinking anything fun, but don't worry, don't worry you are what have you got?
Speaker 4:what have you got?
Speaker 3:well, I just happen to have a kite THC soda that I will be partaking with. Yes, I am doing the THC soda again now, don't get me wrong. I have been uh, using just not the sodas so much okay, uh, but now feel a little bit better. Things seem to be working right back to the sodas.
Speaker 4:It is so when you start feeling good, that's when you realize you need to take more thc. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3:no, no, thc is only like, only do it to a therapeutic level, dw. I am not like I don't know if I have adhd so bad that I have to get high to balance out my, like you know, chemicals or whatever. But if that's the case, then then so be it. That's what it is. I don't really get that freaking baked. To be honest, a lot of people do. A lot of people do get just out, blitzed out of their mind, and I do not but you are perpetually like, always a little bit, aren't you?
Speaker 3:Based on how long it's in your system. Yes, always, that's true. Yeah, yeah. So there's really never time that I don't have.
Speaker 4:So I've never met john, I've just met, you know, thc john. We need a name for that I am the same guy, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll see. No, sincerely. So I okay. So you were sick a little bit. You know I was sick.
Speaker 4:Oh, so before I forget, though, let me, I have a. We had a legal notice before. This is a cease and desist. What, yeah, for what? Hang on. Let me just, to whom it may concern, with this letter, I hereby request that you cease and desist any and all impersonations of Dusty Rhodes. Is that a wrestler or something? Okay, anyway, you are hereby instructed to cease all impersonation efforts immediately or face legal sanctions under the Federal Fair Impersonations Practices Act 1501 USC, sections 169201C and 16092K, which is incorporated and made applicable to comedians like yourself by the Tim Allen Impersonations Practices Act. Us Civil Code, sanctions 1788.17. Please mark your podcast notes accordingly. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. So.
Speaker 3:Well.
Speaker 4:You'll have to check Dusty Rhodes off of your list of impersonations. You know, I'm sure I have heard Eddie Murphy sues so I would just watch that. You know might want to be careful there.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't be me if I didn't say listen here, See, listen, listen, baby okay. See the American dream here. We don't want to listen to some legal nose, baby, okay, we just do what we do. Uh-huh, that's right, Just do what we do-huh, that's right, just do what we do so.
Speaker 4:Was that mike tyson or I?
Speaker 3:can't be more like this, and I actually met mike tyson once, so don't, yeah, he doesn't play around. Trust me, I know I've had mike tyson literally say to me you take a picture of me, now break your fucking face. That's how, that's exactly how it went. So I mean yeah.
Speaker 4:The fact that I can't tell who it is, though that's usually not a good sign.
Speaker 3:If you do an impersonation. No, Dusty has a little bit of twang, baby, because he's from downtown Texas, that's how. And then he had a lisp too. So he's like yeah, Dirty Dusty Rose baby, it was D, so he's like yeah, dirty, that's the road, baby.
Speaker 3:It was dirty, that's the road, and dirty, yeah, you're not helping your case here. Anyways, I don't. I know who that was from and we will be talking after I get off of this, so just throwing it out there. Um, yeah, some really cool stuff happening. Uh, we in I'm. If they stick around after hearing the impersonations, then god bless them. Um, more japanese listeners, which is badass. Uh, more ukrainian listeners, which is badass. More french listeners, which is badass itself. I, yeah, that's uh dw. I mean wow, and once again, anyone from any foreign country.
Speaker 4:Please contact us and tell us how you're listening, because we're very curious. If you are, you know 100% Japanese and don't understand what the heck we're saying, but we're just fun to listen to. Or do you speak English, and why? Were you originally from the US and moved there, or something? We're just very curious as to how it comes to pass that.
Speaker 3:Japan, australia, ukraine, all of these places, how in the world you get us so but I like it, and I like the fact that they know who we are over there. Wouldn't it be so like crazy it? You know? It'd be like uh, uh, what was on the simpsons? Um, what do you homer? What was he over in in in japan? What, uh, do you remember?
Speaker 4:oh and uh. Is it the one where he, they did the game show to try and get back? Yeah, I thought their tickets back? No uh no, it was. Oh, you mean the mr sparkle, mr sparkle yeah, there we go yeah but he didn't go to japan, and he didn't go there, no, but he just got something.
Speaker 3:So they got his likeness or whatever and they used it as mr sparkle.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but there is another one where he goes to. I can't, I'm sorry, I can't remember if it's china or japan, and I just remember him walking through all the doors because they're all made of, uh, tissue paper. Remember that yep yeah yeah, like he's in jail, he's like, oh, this was terrible. And so he finishes up his chow mein and just walks through the door.
Speaker 3:Yeah, to sell, quote, unquote. Yeah, yeah, I love the simpsons, it's good stuff. Um, well, I it's kind of a weird segue or whatever, going from Mr Sparkle and that episode to this. But next week, on Scalarious, we will be having Well, I mean, it's going to be a Japanese-themed paranormal show. So me and the dubs are going to take the reins and we are going to go. So all of you Japanese listeners, konnichiwa and Domo Arigato I don't know if that's really a thing, but you know, you could always let me know. Mr Roboto was even better, alright, so next week you can hear all that stuff and you tell us whether or not we're on point or not. So I'm learning, I'm doing the learning right now, and then we'll talk about some Japanese horror films too, because they have a lot of them and it's badass. So it's gonna be cool. So it's gonna be a cool Japanese themed Scalarius next week. So stay tuned. All right, cool, all right. So we're sitting there talking about next week, but we should be talking about things like right now and things like right now.
Speaker 3:You might be sitting there in your home, you might be at work right now listening to this, to be honest, and if you are, you're probably sitting there going like you know that DW, he's kind of a funny guy. Maybe I want to reach out to him. Maybe I want to reach out baby, reach out to DW, reach out, reach out to DW, reach out to John. Take your hand out there and say DW, come here, come here, baby, come here. If you wanted to do that, you could find DW at DW Steering Comedian on Facebook. You can find me at John Olsen Comedian 2.0 on Facebook. You can find us steering comedian on Facebook. You can find me at John Olson comedian 2.0 on Facebook. You can find us both together on Facebook but we're not a couple.
Speaker 3:We're not we. You find us to. You know both together at the scolarius page. We also use. I mean, we do have a tech talk, but you know, I don't know it's it's kind of up and down. You know what I mean. So don't worry about the tech, I don't know about it, but if you, if you did want to wear it.
Speaker 3:Just go to scolarius 8 and you'll see some videos and stuff like that and whatever. But uh, mostly on instagram at scolarius. And if you wanted to, again, we thought to us, reach out. Dw said john, reach out. And they say, just go to scolariaspod at gmailcom. Write us an email, we'll get right back to you, it'll be a whole lot of fun. And, uh, I suppose if you wanted to listen to every single episode that we have, you could do that at scolariaspodbuzzsproutcom, is that right? Dw Yep, that is right. Hey, how's your clothes fitting, buddy? You doing good? Do you need any extra apparel?
Speaker 4:You are the worst at segues.
Speaker 3:No, so I know right where this is going. Aren't you supposed to know right where it's going? Is that? The idea of a segue is that you moved like smoothly into the next part.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but it's not supposed to come out of left field. It's not so supposed to be um, and you can find us on facebook. Hey, look at your clothes.
Speaker 3:Like that was an obvious well, whatever, all right, it's it.
Speaker 3:It was one of those funky segues there's a reason we haven't gotten an endorsement yet, possibly, but no, it's one of those funky segues that the mall cops use. That's what it was. So, yeah, anyways and Anyways. And see, I said mall and mall's where you get clothes. You know where else you can get clothes you get clothes at? Just go to Crowdmade. Yeah, go to Crowdmade. And then you search Scolari's Pod and you do that and you're going to see a whole bunch of cool stuff. There's t-shirts. Dw has his own t-shirt.
Speaker 3:Yeah his own shirts. Dw has his own t-shirt, yeah, his own, and it just says here's the thing, because that's what dw says. And then there's scolarius 316. And why is this scolarius 316? Dw, you're on mute, you know that, right? Yeah, I good Cause the joke yeah. Well. I mean listen the joke would have bombed regardless. But no, if nobody can hear you, then it's even worse.
Speaker 4:You had a reason for it.
Speaker 3:I do have a reason for it.
Speaker 3:And it was the same thing as the uh uh wrestler three, 16, have a reason for it, and it was the same thing as the uh, uh, wrestler 316. The wrestler 316 was not exactly how it went, but back in the day there was a, a gentleman who um went by the name of stone cold steve austin, and his shirt said austin 316 and it was austin 316 because he just whooped your ass. Well, we were not whooping ass. I mean, I could probably do it, but most likely you wouldn't. So, like it's hilarious 316, because you know we're just gonna, we just entertained your ass. That's how that's. I don't know. It's a thing and I did it so anyway.
Speaker 3:So you go and you get that t-shirt there and you get DW's T-shirt. You can get leashes and collars for your dogs to say beware the hellhounds of Scalarius, which is badass. There's also like a dog bowl. It could be a cat bowl too. It could be. We're not discriminating against cats, it's not all dog stuff. You could put your cat on the leash if you wanted to, you could put your, but it's a dog slash cat bowl Could be raccoon bowl, I don't know whatever. But it says again beware the hellhounds.
Speaker 3:That was hilarious, and a whole lot of stuff. We have cups, we have coffee cups, there's hats, there's the beanies, there's also the beanie with the little fluffy thing on the top and things like that all that at crowd made. And you just go there and then search up sclarius pod and you'll find our page and you can order a whole bunch of cool stuff and everything's like less than 30 bucks, so it's affordable too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you should do that and then wear your stuff out, and then people will be like what's hilarious? And then you have to like explain it to them and it's going to be a whole, like this whole long thing, and then you'll just end up having this really long conversation about scolarius and you're like, hey, well, my favorite episode was episode like 23.
Speaker 3:You know the ghost of disneyland, and then, oh, I like that one. That was a really good one. You know what my favorite episode was? It was episode 61. And then, yeah, it just had this whole little thing. And then pretty soon, you're having a barbecue, people are popping beers, this whole thing. I'll be wearing Scalarius gear.
Speaker 4:We'll call that a best case scenario. But uh, you know, yeah, apparently you put my quote on a hoodie. Even so, yeah, see you what?
Speaker 3:if you have your barbecue and it's like 40 degrees out. You want to wear a hoodie while you're doing it, so therefore you can have the. You know, here's the thing. Uh, dw, hoodie on, all right, so here's the thing here's.
Speaker 4:You want to talk bad segues, let's get right into it and introduce our guest for today. Oh, is that for a bad segue? That was I mean it was pretty horrible, to be honest all right, but it's okay, you know about as good as you said All right.
Speaker 3:I was going to say we're going with the theme of the show apparently today. That's cool, that's all right. So you know, here's the thing, here's the thing here.
Speaker 4:Don't oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:Okay, so we enjoy the people who are paranormal enthusiasts. They come on here and they just they love the stuff. Because I love the stuff, dw, he's more of like a, you know he's okay with it, but you know I love the stuff. So I like to hear other people and how they love the stuff. But then then there is a certain few people that might be into other things. Okay, I'm not going to say what these other things are, but we're going to get into them today and it's going to be amazing. But but first we need to introduce our guests. Our guest today is the founder of Hard Knock Paranormal. Okay, she is just into some of the coolest stuff and maybe like, possibly a self-professed witch, right, possibly a death enthusiast okay, possibly a whole lot of stuff that we're gonna get into. So, without further ado, harley horky, how are you today? I'm doing good. So, harley, I. So. Harley, I seem to have figured out that you're from Minnesota. Where in this wonderful southern Canadian state are you from?
Speaker 5:Eagan, minnesota, originally from Wyndham.
Speaker 3:I go through Wyndham a lot, actually on my drives to go get get my kids right on right on uh 60, there a little spot. There was one time we were driving through and I think you might know exactly where this is, but we were going through and there was like a thunderstorm and there was a big ass lightning strike and all the lights in the high school football field or baseball field or whatever right there and like they all like flashed at the same time.
Speaker 5:It's pretty cool, I thought it was they get hit with some pretty gnarly storms. There was a lot of flooding this last year really, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:It's too bad. Nice little town. They. They took away the dinosaur and they put up a veterans thing. But you know, I I suppose it hats off to the veterans, but the dinosaur is pretty cool. Not gonna lie, you've, you've made a powerful enemy. Windham, minnesota? I don't know, not really. So, harley, you are the founder of hard knock. Tell us about founder co-founder. Okay, tell us about Hard Knock.
Speaker 5:So Hard Knock Paranormal was kind of established in 2019. Uh, me and my best friend, felicia Rosario, um, we ended up just taking a road trip and we mapped out all of the haunted cemeteries, haunted locations. We made a 24-hour trip of it. We started at like cottage grove, went down to the border of iowa, all the way up to the iron range, um, and we were kind of hooked after that wow, so how often do you investigate? Uh, we have, I don't know two to three trips a year, depending on the funding.
Speaker 3:Very cool, that's cool, and so I recently seen you. You were in Edinburgh. Yeah, okay, that's a pretty nice little place. Have you been to the Villisca, the velisca axe murder house yet?
Speaker 3:yeah, we actually did velisca axe murder on the 13th of october and then we did the uh edinburgh on the 28th of october yeah, um, they're a few hours apart, but I'm assuming you came home before you went back, right, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of driving, but it makes it worth it. So you know, I wanted to hear about hard knock, but let's, let's get into you a little bit, because this stuff, let's get into you a little bit, because this stuff interests me a lot. Let's start with the first thing.
Speaker 5:Death enthusiast, so All right yeah.
Speaker 3:Explain that.
Speaker 5:I don't know, ever since I was like itty bitty, I was doing like random things, things like creating funerals for dead animals, and like I had a miscellaneous roadkill notebook for like road trips. You know, people are counting like bumpers and license plates. I was tallying roadkill. I was just always very weird. Um, even now I mean, it's just life, death, birth, death. What's beyond the things that you can't explain? I'm actually looking to venture into mortuary science. That's my next stop, nice.
Speaker 3:I mean, there's always time right, and that's one business that's not going to go away. Nope, right, all right. So are you a witch?
Speaker 5:I would consider myself a baby witch. I dabble in it. I have an altar. I don't do it as often. I don't practice as often as I would like to. Life just gets busy.
Speaker 3:All right, let's go back a minute. Here you have an altar. Mm-hmm. Okay, four.
Speaker 5:Hecate Okay. Did you say, you can't say heck.
Speaker 3:I'd say oh heck, I'd say I thought you said I can't say it, I'm like okay yeah okay, so just so you know. A few weeks back we interviewed a lovely young lady and she started out the episode like right off the bat, and she's like my stepfather was a warlock and he used to sacrifice animals on the kitchen table, like in the middle of whatever it was like. So hearing I have an altar wasn't exactly the weirdest thing we've ever heard.
Speaker 3:But at the same time, kind of concerning after hearing the first one say you know, I sacrificed animals, or only she didn't, but her stepfather, who was a warlock, did.
Speaker 5:So I'll leave her offerings and things like that. I'll like candles, little little things. I don't.
Speaker 3:I don't go to that extreme okay, because that would be not good. That's more into, okay, so let's go with this. You know there are stigmas when it comes to witchcraft and everything that it's a dark art and so on and so forth. You're leaving little offerings and things that are seemingly good in nature, I assume. So would you say, you're on the light side of this or more of the dark side? I want to say I'm probably on the light side of this or are more of the dark side, I want to say I'm probably on the lighter side of it.
Speaker 5:I wouldn't do anything malicious or with malintent towards anyone, because I do believe that comes back to you um, much like, uh, the movie, uh, oh really, the Craft, the Craft.
Speaker 3:There we go Like. Sometimes, man, if I'm punchy, you know it's there, but it's not coming out, so do you think it comes back to you.
Speaker 5:Threefold Karma will get you one way or the other. I do feel like that could be you. You could get back more than that, you more than what you asked for.
Speaker 3:Okay, so we're gonna stick on this witch thing for a minute, because this, this is kind of fun. So, um, have you ever done any love spells no yourself or anybody else and do you think they would work?
Speaker 5:maybe I guess I don't know how much I believe in the love spell thing. Also, I feel like what's destined will be. So yeah, I'm not trying to really do or mess with other people's lives like that fair enough. All right, cool, I have done a cord cutting before and that was just for me to personally disconnect attachment to someone else. But that was, that was for me personally okay, and that is not that I mean.
Speaker 3:Obviously you're not trying to pull them in if you're quite in the cord, so, um, okay, uh, how devastating can that be?
Speaker 5:I wouldn't say I was devastated, more feeling freed than anything all right, that's pretty cool, okay, so what is a wet specimen collector? So I collect wet specimens. What specimens are? They can be anything from like eyeballs to fetuses, to larger animals and basically they're fixed. They're fixed um in formalin um and they stay in jars and they're just wet specimens.
Speaker 3:Okay, how many would you say you have?
Speaker 5:God, I think I might have like 30 at this point.
Speaker 3:Yeah, wow, and do they range from everything that you're saying?
Speaker 5:Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, range from everything that you're saying oh yeah, okay, yep. I mean I've got eyeballs, brains, eggs, fetal kittens, and you know, I've got a ton of things snakes, lizards.
Speaker 4:So where do you get eyeballs and brains and stuff like that?
Speaker 5:I'll get them gifted to me or I'll pick them up at random, like oddity shows. Yeah there's a lot out there.
Speaker 4:What, what oddity show has eyeballs at the gift shop.
Speaker 5:Um, you can go to. What is it? Whoa world of world of oddities? I can't. I I don't know the correlation of their there. Is there a smaller oddity show? There's one coming up in, I think, november. Oddities and Curiosities Expo is the one that I'll mainly go to. It's huge. They usually have it at the convention center in Minneapolis once a year and there's just tons and tons of vendors. I mean you'll find anything from wet specimens to bones, to taxidermy, to witchcraft items.
Speaker 4:You name it. So then, where do they get it? I'm kind of trying to figure out, like, how does someone get an eyeball without like? Taking a doctor going oops, I guess you only had one, you know like where? How does that person get brains or an eyeball to to sell legally?
Speaker 5:to sell legally. I think it's more like ethical sourcing. Like you know, if, if, if an animal dies of natural causes, um, you know, organs will be harvested and they'll be fixed. Um, if an animal loses an eye or something like that, um, you know, sometimes people ask to keep them you know, sometimes people ask to keep them. So these are. So these are animal eyes, brain, stuff like that. Yeah, I, the only thing that I have from a human that is a wet specimen is a slice of human brain oh gosh the rest of my human remains are skeletal or bones.
Speaker 4:So let's talk about that, because we didn't explain this before. We're audio only, so our listeners can't see what we're seeing. You have a full body skeleton behind you and before we started recording we talked about that a little bit. Tell us again. Pretend I didn't ask you before. Tell us how you got that. And the other thing is sorry to give you two questions at once, but you referred to it as she, so I'm guessing there's a story behind that in terms of, like, there's a person and you know her somewhat.
Speaker 5:So the person that I got her from advertised her on the Facebook oddities marketplace and I had been wanting a full skeleton for a very long time and what they were selling it for was a pretty decent price. I contacted them, asked them if they had any information on it. Unfortunately she didn't come with any paperwork. You can tell that she's female. They were saying that they got her from a European collection. She's of Asian descent. They estimate between 19 to 21 years old. She's only like five foot one, so she's shorter than I am. She's very petite. A lot of it. You can kind of tell by the pelvic bones it's female. The other skull that I have I got from 12 vultures.
Speaker 4:Do you?
Speaker 5:know how long ago the person lived the skeleton that she had. They said that they estimated the piece to be 1930s, 1940s. Said that they estimated the piece to be 1930s, 1940s, which it's. It's real questionable how they got the medical specimens. And you can tell she's a medical specimen. She has, you know, all the wiring and the in the numbers all over her um, but it's it's very questionable where she came from, just because there was a lot of like body snatching and grave digging and things. Back in the day People wanted specimens for scientific reasons. So who knows where she came from originally?
Speaker 4:I just know that she was a collector piece across seas and she was transported over here to Pennsylvania to the person that I got her from over here to Pennsylvania, to the person that I got her from, and then you were saying that you actually the laws have since changed you wouldn't be able to get her now because you cannot buy human remains, was that it?
Speaker 5:Yeah, so I guess I'll leave the person's name out that I got her from, just for potential legal issues. But they were a part of a very sketchy kind of investigation involving human remains and it was basically people were selling human remains illegally and harvesting them illegally and they were being investigated. People went to jail. It was a whole like ring of people. And, uh, for some reason Minnesota got put on the no-no list. Um, as far as you know, you cannot sell or buy human remains in Minnesota anymore. That was just pushed through this last August. Um, so I was kind of grandfathered in. I got her a couple of years ago. Yeah, that was. I mean it was a wild thing to kind of watch unfold on the media too. You can look into that and it was all over the news.
Speaker 3:That's crazy. I mean just the fact that anybody has to be like, okay, you can't buy human remains. The fact that it has to be said, you know, is funny in itself. But I have a lot of other questions here. You obviously have a large collection large collection.
Speaker 5:So one thing that I do like to add, and I like to be very, you know, adamant about, is honoring the dead. Just because I have the skulls, the skeletons, I don't dress them up in scarves or give them names or color on them or, you know, create jewelry out of the mean, whatever floats your boat. I feel it's very disrespectful because it's a human being that had a life, and I even offer them flowers and things like that. They're not touchable objects.
Speaker 3:They're very, very important to me it's awesome, that's cool, they have respect for it, like and yeah, I'm sure there were people out here thinking like, oh my god, like whatever. And then you said respect for it. And yeah, I'm sure there were people out here thinking like oh my. God, like whatever, and then you said that yeah, it makes things a lot better. So you have a large collection. How many pieces do you think you have?
Speaker 5:No, I couldn't count. I mean, I have things from caskets to Victorian morning gowns. I have tons of old embalming sets, like with troll cars and things like that. I have morticians cosmetics. I have old shackles and I'm obsessed with like the Victorian area in particular. So a lot of my places, just it's literally just scattered with death and mourning. Um, I've got like a Victorian hair piece, super pretty. Um, basically the Victorians would take the deceased hair and make them into like flowers and things, and I have stuff like that up. I have an embalming table as my bedside table so what is?
Speaker 3:uh, wow, that's okay.
Speaker 5:All right, we had maintenance come in the other day and they were like, oh, it's you. And I'm like what? And he's like you're my favorite, stop. And I'm like okay. He's like yeah, she's got all this cool stuff. This kid was shadowing with him and I was like yeah, you want to see my embalming table and the kid's just like whoa so I think I know.
Speaker 4:But what is a Victorian mourning gown?
Speaker 5:um, so back in the day, I mean, if anyone passed you'd be wearing black for a very, very long time. They had extended periods of mourning. So this particular gown that I got was off a collector and just sits in a display case. It's an old Victorian, very gorgeous gown, probably made with chemicals. That you know. She's in a display case because we don't want to touch it because a lot of the stuff that they used to dye the dresses black back then was, uh, it's actually really toxic. Um, but I mean, you touch it and it starts falling apart.
Speaker 4:This is very old it seems like I'm guessing a lot of your stuff is probably in a case or something and you don't take it out ever, right?
Speaker 5:yeah, yeah, pretty much my house is like a museum. I mean, the table I'm sitting at right now is over 100 years old, so wow, so I?
Speaker 3:oh. Okay, you said you have caskets, caskets or coffins.
Speaker 5:Well, I, yes, correction. I have a coffin. I have an old Oddfellows coffin that I just got a few months ago. It's a child's.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, a child's.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Aw, that's so sad. Okay. A child's. Yeah, aw, that's so sad. Okay, so I'm going to ask the question that DW really wants to know, and that is this Was it used?
Speaker 5:You know, I don't know it was an old Odd Fellows. It's nailed shut. I've never opened it. They don't necessarily want you to, so I've just kind of honored that. It's nailed shut and it doesn't reek or anything.
Speaker 3:It's pretty clean.
Speaker 5:I think there's some old paperwork in it, but that's about it I mean that's, that's cool, that's very cool.
Speaker 3:So I want to dabble into the paranormal because this is a paranormal and comedy podcast and we started off with some some pretty wild stuff there and I appreciate the hell out of it. So, because that is exactly why I asked you to come on, cause I knew, I knew that would be wild and anything. You can get DW to start interjecting and asking questions.
Speaker 4:You know the skeleton just just intrigued me. I was like, how do you get a skeleton Like? Well cause, I looked at it the hard way. Yeah, I suppose, if you, young Frankenenstein, just wait until whatever, um, but the thing is, I looked at and I was like, oh, she's got, you know, she likes halloween decorations. She's still got a you know a home depot.
Speaker 5:Uh, skeleton up no that's a real person's skeleton yeah, so she's got her own glass case and her teeth fall out every once in a while.
Speaker 3:That's all that damn diamond do is what it is. So all right, I know DW's probably not thinking this, but I certainly am. All that stuff you have in the house you have paranormal activity there?
Speaker 5:yep, I do. Um, I just got some cameras that I put up around the house. I'm still not super IT tech savvy so I'm trying to figure that out, but um, there's been. I mean, people have had their like pillows hit before been touched on their feet. Um, I've been sleeping a few times and I'll get like my shirt grabbed. Um, one time I woke up to my shirt being grabbed and then I laid there kind of with my eyes open for a minute because clearly I was awake and it happened again.
Speaker 5:Um, one of my co-workers was just over the other day and I guess one of the paintings on the wall was creeping her out. So she went, got a towel and put it over the painting and all of a sudden she's sitting there talking and 10 minutes later something's tapping her on the head and I was like, oh yeah, I'm like that'll happen. We've heard. We've heard chairs rocking. I mean, I've I've heard my kids talk to me when they're not here, like my. My son experienced something. I kind of had some wild occurrences after leaving a property, which happened to be the Boyd house, here in Minnesota.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:It was just on here not too long ago.
Speaker 5:Had something I think attached and follow me home, wow.
Speaker 3:Well okay, dw, we're not. And follow me home. Wow Well okay, dw, we're not staying the night there.
Speaker 5:So it's wild because I've been there three times now. I love it there. I don't know what just draws me there, but the first time that we went there it was really wild. We went to leave that morning. I just I felt like I got hit by a truck and to the point where, like I took ibuprofen. I got home and like my son came running into the room and he's like mom, I can hear, like you know, the chair shaking out in the dining room and I just dismissed it. I was like where's the cats? You know he got upset with me that. He was like you know, the cats are in the next room and I was like buddy, it's okay, like it's, it's fine.
Speaker 5:Um, things kind of escalated from there. I was violently ill for like a month from leaving there and, in and out of, the doctors couldn't figure out what was going on. I had this weird respiratory thing. Nothing was matching meds, nothing was helping.
Speaker 5:Um, I was seeing shadows a lot, um, anywhere I went and, um, it got to the point where one night I went into my kid's room to tell him good night and he started bawling and he's like mom, there's something behind you. And I was like what does it look like he goes? It's a shadow with no face and at that point I was kind of like you know, mom mode, like it's okay, honey, like go to sleep, it's, it's fine, I'm like your eyes are adjusting. But in the back of my head I was kind of like all right, I got to do something. And he comes out like two hours later and he's like mom, it's still in there.
Speaker 5:So I reached out to a few different people. I know, um, one of my witchy friends out in, uh, rhode island. Um, I did a four-hour cleansing with herbs, salts, crystals, prayer even and I'm not, you know, a super religious person. But after that, the day after, we were comfortable, I wasn't seeing the shadow figures, I wasn't sick anymore and we didn't have issues again. But we went back there. The third time that we went back to that house I caught that shadow figure on camera in behind me, moving. So it was, it was on film.
Speaker 3:Came back to see you.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, it's actually. I think it's up on hard knock paranormals page.
Speaker 3:Cool, we'll check it out, did you All right? So obviously that was a heavy spirit, like it was. Uh, yeah, it was there too. I mean, if you were sick and things like that, it was there to oppress. I'm assuming it was. Yeah, I'm assuming it was. Yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 5:We should talk to Jill. I want to preface in saying that I don't think the house is demonic. There was something that just came out saying it was a demon house. I don't think the Boyd house is a demon house. I saw that.
Speaker 3:I've seen that yeah.
Speaker 5:I don't agree. Julie's awesome, by the way. She's a fantastic host. I think a lot of the people that still reside there, the spirits that still reside there, I think they are very peaceful. I think they just want to communicate. Whatever that was, I don't know what it was. There's definitely something there that has a different energy, but I think, for the most part, that house is. It's a great experience to go if you're interested in that.
Speaker 3:I bet you know, if it is true about ghosts and things like that, after people die and they hang around, they're going to keep part of their own personality. So it's no different than if me and dw were trapped in a house for eternity with each other right. Each other right. Be funny though, oh gosh, no anyways. So like obviously dw's more, he's more calm, a little bit more level-headed things like that. People irritate me. So I assume ghost john will be just as irritated by people as living john is now. So I could see maybe a possibility of you know some antics that might look like it's malicious in a way right, but not really, because I'd just be grumpy. So I would assume that ghosts would be like that too. And if they're in the boy's house they're probably old, they're grumpy and they don't want people walking around and asking them questions. And then they're looking at you and they're like where, what's all that writing all over you?
Speaker 5:oh, the ghost people are here again. They're asking the same questions again. Here we go. Yeah, I wonder if the ghosts ever argue with each other like if a married couple here again they're asking the same questions again.
Speaker 4:Here we go. Yeah, I wonder if the ghosts ever argue with each other, like if a married couple dies, and they're like it's my side of the bed you give, you're on your half. Give me my thing, you know, I don't know I'm just picturing like if, if me and john are stuck in a house together for all eternity, I'm gonna freaking jeez, I'm gonna attach myself to someone and be like I'm going with you, I don't care where you live.
Speaker 3:But you imagine, like, sincerely, we'd be like the odd couple. Remember the old tv show? You probably don't, but anyway, yeah, that's what it would be like, um and ghosts, ghost impressions.
Speaker 4:He would do a me impression and then you would just hear me stuff flying off the wall because I'm ticked hearing this impression again been dead for 30 years and I still have to hear it.
Speaker 5:So oh, creepers I definitely feel like uh, residual energies are definitely a thing. Um, I actually got to experience that at edinburgh when we went edinburgh.
Speaker 5:I pronounce it wrong every time uh the location that I was just at, um paranormal exposures, um. They kind of introduced me to the place. Tou toured me around, kind of told some of the history about that place. There was one room that I actually was physically grabbed and she had forewarned me that that might happen in that bed, being that there was some nasty things that had happened there. But I did a first session and it was fine. And then the second session was not. I had something physically pressed down on the bed and grabbed me.
Speaker 3:You know that kind of shit. It's terrifying in several ways. Number one a female laying in bed and something you know, reaching, grabbing you, whatever is one thing. Then the fact that you can't see what it is that's doing it, that is the shit that's. I think that's scary as hell.
Speaker 5:And if they have the power to do that. What else can they do?
Speaker 3:Exactly. Well, I know what else. I know what else they could do, not from experience, experience, but from hearing several people talk about it. Uh, they can, they could do anything a human could do and yeah, some some chicks dig it. We know a couple anyways um yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 3:So you have some stuff happening there. Now there was something that me and you kind of chatted about off air type deal. Um, when I was like you know, you were kind of like I don't know, I don't want to do. Not, I don't want to do this, just kind of like I'm not a hundred percent sure. I've never done a podcast before. You know, I don't know whatever. And I was like, hey, you know, it's cool, it's okay, you know whatever. And you said, hey, I work in an ER, so I'm really busy right now. I'll get back to you. And I was like, whoa, okay, hold up, we're going to talk about that too. So, but which made it a little bit more interesting- it's not just, you work at an ER.
Speaker 3:You work at a where? An animal emergency hospital. One of the questions I asked you immediately well, not really asked you, but before you told me that it was an animal hospital I said, ooh, you work at the ER. We've been wanting to talk to people that have done that because you know their experiences, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said I would really like to hear it but I want to wait for the podcast. And you said it's an animal er, but things still happen. Oh yeah, I'm curious and this is for dw2, because I know he's over there just waiting, because you know any any mention of an animal and a ghost, you know he gets all giddy. So what, what has happened that? Has a major radar go up a little bit with the, with the whole paranormal thing at the animal hospital?
Speaker 5:Yeah, there's. There's a handful more than a handful of people that have experienced things at the hospital. Um, we have light sensor, like most motion sensing lights that'll go off when no one's in there. Um, a couple of us, including myself, have seen like figures standing out of the corner of our eyes, just random, weird things that no one can really pinpoint. I mean it happens, don't know who's doing it. I mean I don't think there's any deaths, or I mean human deaths there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can't say that because one thing I mean Minnesota is a large, large state and it had many, many Native Americans all over it, right? So there's, there's a lot of burial grounds that people just don't even realize, and all over this place, and I think Minnesota's ranked one of the top haunted states in America. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 5:It makes sense.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we got some pretty cool stuff here, but I wouldn't, I don't know. People always talk about you know, uh, go down to kentucky, you know, and uh, seeing stuff down there or going you know california, doing the whole haunted things down there. You know, obviously, when I say kentucky, I mean waverly hills, right, so I mean that's a uh big, well-established, haunted place that a lot of people talk about. New Orleans, new Orleans is another place. Massachusetts, yeah, but when it comes to Minnesota, right, there's only so many places where people are like that's really really haunted and they want to go there, and a few of them are hotels. But there's like a couple of establishments, obviously, here in St Paul there's there's two, two restaurants. I know of four paws. Four paws, which was, I think it's closed now. I think it's closed now.
Speaker 5:The Lexington right.
Speaker 3:The Lexington yep. And then you know you go up to what is it the Palmer House Hotel Yep.
Speaker 5:I think I've been there like three times now. We've had stuff every time Really. Oh yeah, one that stuck out to us hardcore was we were all sitting downstairs around the table and we had a voice recorder sitting on the table and bar had closed. Like they shut the lights off and they just kind of let you hang out down there and we're all just sitting around talking. Nothing really happened while we were down there, but when we went upstairs and we were playing back the recorder, you could hear piano music playing in the background. There's a piano downstairs but there was no music playing in the background. There's a piano downstairs, but there's no music playing wow, that's cool.
Speaker 3:Uh, is that place like it's all renovated and all? Good yeah, oh, very cool did um.
Speaker 5:let me see here so you say that you any animal ghosts in the animal hospital? I just, I don't know how I could tell Nothing really screams. Oh, that was an animal, do I feel like there's something there? Definitely Don't know what it is, though I haven't really done too much venturing into that Everybody keeps telling me should, but I don't. Why not same thing with my house? I mean, I I know that there's stuff here, but because this is my safe space, I don't necessarily want to dig too hard.
Speaker 3:Yep, yeah, that's the worst thing to that bridge. You know, and you know for sure what's going on. You won't get that. You know it's not getting out of your head and it's going to. Yeah, it's going to mess you up, yeah yeah yeah, all right. So I know we kind of like been going all over the place and that's, that's fine. Uh, what? What's on the uh on the docket for hard knock, paranormal. What do you guys got going on?
Speaker 5:so the next big one we've got coming up is waverly hills. We're doing that one in april. Um, after that we might be going to mexico oh nice for day of the dead and maybe hitting up a couple spots out there you gotta watch it down there um I know, especially with what's going on right now yeah, yeah, best day at the resort, because I don't want to come back without a head and become somebody else's collection.
Speaker 3:That probably wouldn't be, wouldn't be a good thing. Um, wow. So another thing. I uh, I just had to ask because you know we are friends on Facebook and we do see some things. I just happened to notice what pets do you have?
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, well, my ex has two of my dogs one of my cats just because I actually live in an apartment, cat, um, just because you know, I actually live in an apartment, um I've got geckos fish, tarantulas, snake.
Speaker 3:I've got the exotics. I've got a couple cats, okay let's tiptoe back.
Speaker 5:I used to breed reptiles and things too, so I'm kind of like the reptile lady okay, that's cool.
Speaker 3:I mean that's, that's not as terrifying as, uh, the tarantulas you were talking about, so let's, let's talk about that for a second. I want to know how in the blue hell you are able to um touch and not kill the spider that you have.
Speaker 5:I mean, these guys are pretty docile. Their temperament's very, very peaceful. They're not flighty like some of them can be. They're actually pretty slow moving. Noche, she's a Brazilian black tarantula and the other one's a zebra knee, and that's creature Very, very pretty. I don't play with them. They're more of a hey, I arrange your tanks real pretty and I feed you and I come out and see you. I don't, you know, snuggle them. Lilith, my snake, she uh wants to chew on me every time she comes out and she's getting bigger so it hurts more and what is?
Speaker 3:what is lilith?
Speaker 5:she's a black mexican king snake. Okay, great eaters, great eaters, but she loves to try to eat my fingers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, see, you know I'm terrified of spiders and tarantula does not make it any better, and I understand. I understand you might say that they're docile and things like that and that's, that's cool, uh, but no I get that a lot.
Speaker 5:There's people that will not come over to my house because of it okay, yeah, they just stand the ground. They're not walking in yeah, they're like, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3:If they do, they're like, I'm gonna stay on this side and you can be on that honestly, it doesn't matter, because if the cage falls over or whatever that thing's out, it doesn't matter where you're at see. Honestly, the best place is on the street, unless it jumps out the window at you. Then it's yeah anyway.
Speaker 5:So I have australia, you'll be fine, see.
Speaker 3:yeah, that's horrible, we have Australian listeners. Yeah, we had Chris Donamon here a while back and she was talking about the animals down there. Like no, that's no.
Speaker 5:See, no, I want to go there strictly because of all of that. So, it's just that is not.
Speaker 3:No. So Spiders the size of my I have big hands. Okay, like, like they are not small. No, that is. That is a big arachnid man. I can't handle that shit they had huntsman spiders.
Speaker 5:Those are the ones that you're referring to. They had huntsman spiders at a reptile expo a couple years that I went to that were like that big and they were like, oh yeah, my huntsman spider, and I'm like I don't want to deal with that when it gets bigger and I can't put it into the cage without it darting oh god, okay, yeah, all right, dw.
Speaker 3:You had a question or something john, are you not into spiders?
Speaker 4:no okay, all right. So then if we're stuck in a house together after we die, I know what to scare the crap out of you with. So two part question have you had to move recently?
Speaker 5:no, I've been here for a few years.
Speaker 4:The reason I asked is how do you ask a moving company hey, be careful with that skeleton in the corner like I wonder if you've got any weird looks of like. Oh, you want me to put this in the truck?
Speaker 5:that's gonna be. That's gonna be interesting when it does happen. I remember transporting her, like after he shipped him out to me, and I just remember sitting there driving home with a big box of bones in my passenger seat, kind of like wondering what would happen if I got pulled over, like oh hey, what's in in the box?
Speaker 4:oh my gosh there is this murder that we haven't solved. Can you hop in the back seat for a second?
Speaker 3:yeah, no, and how does that work? Like I know that if I go to colorado and I pick up some of my wonderful thc products and I drive to minnesota, whether it's legal in Minnesota or not, whether it's legal in Colorado or not, the states I need to get through to get here.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, right. So I feel I would be like getting charged with trafficking or something like that, right? So if you were pulled over with a box of bones, is there a law that states that you can't, I guess, drive human remains from state to state? Not human remains, because I know that they have bodies, that they move from one state to another and things like that.
Speaker 5:I'm saying like there's a lot of legal paperwork with that too. Um, I think it's like no purchasing or selling here in minnesota, I think, if you drove through, a lot of states are actually still allowing purchasing and selling uh, minnesota's at, minnesota's out, georgia's out, louisiana's out. I think there's one other one that I'm forgetting right now. I'm just not braining, um, but there's only, I think, four states right now that don't allow it. Oh, okay, so that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Um they allow human trafficking, but not, you know, not the dead human remains, right geez, yeah yeah, good job, minnesota, it's okay.
Speaker 3:It's okay if you you know, if you traffic underage kids or whatever for sex slaves, but don't if they're dead, then it's a big. If they're dead, then it's a big. Yeah, that's a big deal. Good job, good job, all right. I need to preface this by asking, by saying that I'm asking this not for my own personal preference or the hearing preferences of everybody else, but for my own curiosity. As I backtrack into the previous topic harley, are you single? Yes okay, do you? How often have you dated?
Speaker 5:I mean I, I guess, I don't know off and on why.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right, it's okay.
Speaker 4:He's engaged, so don't worry about that.
Speaker 5:It's honestly. It's been a lot of work and my kids keep me super busy, so it's like I don't know.
Speaker 4:I think he was wondering at what point in the relationship do you bring up? So I've got a coffin back at my apartment.
Speaker 3:Well, not just that, but I'm kind of going into the psyche of the male as he walks through. That door is kind of where I was going with it. Yes, you're right, dw, in a way, but I'm going back to like, okay, so you're dating in a way. But I'm going back to like, okay, so you're dating, things are good. You, you know, one or two dates, it traditionally three or four, whatever. If you want to be that way, nowadays it's like 20 minutes and then you're on on off to the races. But the question is but the question is what's the reaction?
Speaker 5:Well, to be fair, the last guy that I dated had worked in the funeral industry and he did body transport.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 5:So he was just fully submersed in it as much as I was. I feel like a lot of the people, when they know what I'm, very forward and they know what they're getting themselves into before they come over. But there have been like a couple that are legitimately creeped out by me. I was like, yeah, I mean I can't help it, that's just, it's me, that is that's. My life entirely revolves around death.
Speaker 4:I mean, I kind of feel like it would come up before you got to the apartment anyways. Like they might they might ask you about your tattoos or what you do or what you want to do.
Speaker 3:And you know, suddenly tarantulas come up and you're like, oh, I've got a few of those at my place and yeah, oh, so yeah I I kind of feel like one person off for sure smart man, very smart man, I mean I'm just saying, like you know, if it's anybody involved, smart, smart man, tarantulas is a no-go. If you had tarantulas and then had a bat, that'd be even worse. To be honest, I fucking hate them.
Speaker 5:They're bad, nasty, you know out of all the things that I don't have yet I don't have a bat.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, I don't know if I should shout them out.
Speaker 4:Well, I was going to say if you don't want John to come over, I don't know if I should shout them out or not, but maybe there's a place in North Sioux City Jesus Christ, don't go there, no offense to them either.
Speaker 3:But North St Paul, that has 12 vultures. There's a. Well, I mean, I don't know, maybe it's it is, it's in a little corner.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's where I got my first human skull from.
Speaker 3:Okay, Fair enough, there's a uh they're amazing there. Yeah, there's a place. I mean there's like a little bat or whatever in a. Yeah, it's dead.
Speaker 5:And the in the dome and yep, yep, yeah, that's, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I was gonna like say, hey, go check them out, but you obviously already did, so, no, any reason to say anything about that.
Speaker 5:That's cool oh god, I heard about it and I was there like the next day and it did not disappoint nice, that's badass.
Speaker 3:So okay, like I was getting you know, when we were talking about the whole dating thing or whatever, I I knew you and a lot of people would be like where's he going with this? But I needed to know. Like this, like some, some guys sitting across from you and you're like yeah, I'm really big into like death and wet specimens and I'm a witch. And he's like well, I play chess really well I don't know what like, and then you're like chess, that's awesome.
Speaker 3:Come back to my place and then he's standing there like in his khakis and his in his button down, and he's all like, oh my god, this place terrifies me I think I think they're into the whole goth chick persona.
Speaker 5:Okay, until they get to my house and then they're like wow, you're kind of demented, like that's.
Speaker 3:I mean, you can only, yeah. So you said goth chick. I'm going to go off the rails a little bit more here and kind of pursue that area. So you say goth chick. So I have to ask do you as a? I mean, you're not that much younger than me, but do you see the Cure as being a goth band?
Speaker 5:I honestly haven't really listened to it.
Speaker 3:You've never listened to the Cure.
Speaker 5:No, like I probably have, but it's not coming to my mind. I do listen to basically anything and everything. I mean I can go from screamy, screamy quote-unquote to classical. I go to a lot of metal shows. I listen to a lot of metal. I like the old-school hip-hop stuff. I can depend on the day.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. I can't honestly say that I've ever seen a goth chick rolling down the street now I'm gonna have to invest in you yeah, I was gonna say, listening to you know, dr drace the chronic or whatever, you know you like old school hip-hop and I'm like that's no yeah or mozart for that matter. I see Mozart more than I see hip-hop.
Speaker 5:A lot of it is the old school stuff. They're bangers. New stuff is just like what are you saying? The beat's there, but there's nothing there. There's no kind of all over the place. I. What are you saying? The beat's there, but there's nothing there. There's no Kind of all over the place. I and I will listen to some Suicide Boys. Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, fair, I was just going to say I and every other person over the age of 30 agree with you with the mumble, rap of shit, just all right. Well, we're kind of getting to you know the part of the uh night where people get to uh, get to know you just a little bit better, even though we just went through your dating history and everything you have in your apartment. But but, and so I have to ask if people wanted to look for Hard Knock Paranormal and you, harley, where would they find you?
Speaker 5:So I'm on Facebook. I got an Instagram for both. Hard Knock Paranormal has Facebook. I have Facebook. I have an Instagram. I go off DeathXByWidow. Facebook is Harley Jean and Hard Knock Paranormal on Facebook. We're always looking for people that are curious and want to learn more. To reach out. Um, we're not one of those groups that post a lot on YouTube. Um, we're not really here for clicks or views. We're just more about creating memories, learning about the history, traveling, um, and just really having a good time with it. Like I said, we've got you know myself, felicia, josh I mean, they're the main three, but we always have a steady, you know group of like eight going with to places. So reach out. I mean, if you want to join and you're genuinely, genuinely curious, we're, we're all about including.
Speaker 3:So do you guys investigate private places yet?
Speaker 5:we were kind of asked once and then we never heard from them again. We would like to um, but yeah, I mean we've just stuck with the ones that we've got access to really. But uh, we would not be against doing private homes and things like that.
Speaker 3:Cool, that'd be really cool. I do have one more question, and then we got to get on with the ending part of the show, and your question for me is this You're big into death. You collect human remains remains. You collect animal remains. Are you in the cemeteries?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, absolutely okay we've we've done a few of those here in minnesota too I was gonna ask you which of the cemeteries in the metro area, because I'm assuming if you're like myself and my lovely queen consort, we kind of go and check out some cemeteries in the area. So if you like cemeteries, you probably do it too. So I'm going to ask in the metro area, what cemetery do you feel has either A, the most activity or B, the most potential to having the highest activity?
Speaker 5:Does it have to be in the metro?
Speaker 3:Well, I mean no, it doesn't.
Speaker 5:The two that I am the most fascinated with here in minnesota. Uh, one is the old traverse cemetery in saint peter. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, there was the battle between, um, you know, the indians and the settlers, or the natives and the settlers. Um, there's a lot of potential for energies and things there. It's gorgeous, beautiful for like photography and stuff like that. I haven't experienced anything to be realistic, but I do think that there's a lot of potential there. But my favorite of I mean my, my go-to, and I've been there like three times now is Buell Cemetery, up in the Iron Range.
Speaker 3:Okay, is Buell Cemetery up in the Iron.
Speaker 5:Range. Okay, it's called Lakeview Cemetery, but it's also gone by Buell Cemetery. It is gorgeous. There's a mass grave on the one end of it. We've experienced a lot Equipment activity. I mean just experiencing the activity, hearing things, we've seen things. Um, there's a lot of room there to investigate, although I will say, the last time that we went there we were stopped. So you have to be very careful out there because they are keeping an eye on the area. First, couple times, not so much. Second or the third time was a. Yeah, you guys got to go and it was really funny because when we were going to leave, even the police officers were like did you find anything? Did you see anything? So they know it too.
Speaker 3:I want to get a cop on here who's had experiences. I think that'd be awesome, not just around minnesota or whatever, I don't care where they're at, just come on here and talk about it, because I know.
Speaker 5:I know what happens oh yeah, I mean security guards and stuff at like old hospitals, oh yeah yeah, buddy of mine who was actually on the show last year sometime.
Speaker 3:he was on with my other cohort from Tri-State Paranormal Services back in the day, mark, he was security at the hospital in Sioux City, iowa, where I was from. God, I mentioned it again. I had to wash my mouth out double this time, but anyway. So, yeah, he's a security guard there and he had stories damn near every day.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so I can see some of the footages that they've pulled from hospitals that they've observed. You can clearly see stuff moving and it's just like wow yeah, it's, it's nuts.
Speaker 3:I, I, I travel on the on the road and and tell jokes, and I, uh, work at a grocery store. And no, neither one. I don't have ghosts in my car, I don't think. And there's nothing going on where I work. So I don't have anything interesting other than listening to you guys talk about your interesting stuff.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean going from even like the conjuring house who is, like you know, notoriously known for you know the haunting. Even that place doesn't compare to like the hospital that's down in Iowa. So I mean it's all you really just got to think of, like the history behind of behind where you're going.
Speaker 3:Very true. So the conjuring house, you've been there. Oh yeah, really Nice, yep, all right, cool, right, cool, uh, with the current owner.
Speaker 5:Uh, yeah, um, fortunately didn't have any experiences with her, um, because I've been following that for a while and that kind of started to peak right around the time that we left there oh, I mean things had started to escalate a little before we went.
Speaker 5:Um, I'm just, I'm just glad that we didn't have any run-ins with her. Um, the stuff did happen. We had door handles shaking. We had the basement door opening. I did catch something black go across a doorway on film. But it's in. It's a gorgeous place and it was definitely worth experiencing. But I think that uh definitely needs to make some changes before anybody else goes back there yeah, because what's going on now it's it's not good.
Speaker 3:So, harley, we've come to the point now where we're gonna get to know you just a little bit more. Well, not really, it's really just kind of superficial or whatever. But we have a thing called this or that and basically we're just going to ask you something and you, basically, I'm going to ask you two questions and you choose one. Okay, are you ready for this or that? Yeah, dw, is it my turn or is it your turn?
Speaker 4:I was just wondering that I feel like I went last time.
Speaker 3:so I think it's your turn, so it is my turn.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 3:All right, here we go and we're going to have a hard knock. Paranormal harley, um edition of this, this or that, yeah all right, let's go. You know what I'm gonna do the exact opposite of the harley edition, because harley's all like you know. She's wearing the dark stuff and she doesn't look all like you know, the whole fluffy bunny thing. So now we're gonna get on the flip side of this. You ready, bring it barbie or strawberry shortcake bar Barbie. Okay, care Bears or Glow Worm.
Speaker 5:Care Bears.
Speaker 3:Awesome. Now we're going to go to Saturday Morning Cartoons Gummy Bears or DuckTales.
Speaker 5:DuckTales.
Speaker 4:Awesome. Alright, we're just going to go to cartoons in general DuckTales.
Speaker 3:DuckTales, awesome. All right, we're just going to go to cartoons in general. So Scooby-Doo, where are you? Or the Flintstones.
Speaker 5:Scooby-Doo 100%.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, all right, there we go. That's what I like to hear. Okay, all right, be due 100. Hell yeah, all right, there we go that's what I like to hear. Okay, all right, now we're gonna go to the darker side of harley ready, ready bats or tarantulas bats you pick the bats about. Okay, all right, they're cute, I'm terrified. Just going to be honest. All right, skeletal remains or fully formed human remains done so well that they were human remains.
Speaker 5:Done so well. I have to say skeletal.
Speaker 3:Okay, just looks spookier, right.
Speaker 5:Bones are my thing. I mean even with animals. I like the structures.
Speaker 3:All right, so we're going to do an animal question and another one. I guess Raccoons or possums.
Speaker 5:Possums are my favorite animal. I actually have a skull tattooed on my chest.
Speaker 3:Okay, a possum skull, possum skull.
Speaker 5:They're amazing.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 5:I rescued babies one time. That was really, really fun. 11 of the 12 made it back to the wild.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's awesome. That's really cool. Hell yeah, all right, now we're going to go into the fun stuff. We're going to see what you're going to have for breakfast.
Speaker 5:Will you have cereal or oatmeal?
Speaker 3:Oatmeal Nice. Okay. Have cereal or oatmeal. Oatmeal, nice, okay. Toast or bagel, bagel, all right.
Speaker 5:Mcdonald's breakfast or hardy's breakfast. Never had hardy's breakfast, so mcdonald's okay, that's, that's fair.
Speaker 3:If you never had hardy, now I have to say, go have hardy's breakfast because it it's. Yeah, they would like I was gonna.
Speaker 5:I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm a bk girl myself, myself, so all right, but but like hardy's they had like like a biscuits and gravy, like sandwich. Oh yeah, my fat ass that is. Yeah, all right. So we're going to go into the ones that we always go into. So, whatever, I'll do that. All right, would you rather go to Disneyland or Universal Studios?
Speaker 5:Universal.
Speaker 3:All right, would you rather go to wonderful Las vegas, nevada or new orleans? Oh, new orleans, okay, ten times over wow, that was quick too, okay a couple times. Okay, ghost adventures or ghost hunters ghost hunters all right, go with the ogs. I do enjoy Adventures or Ghost Hunters.
Speaker 5:Ghost Hunters.
Speaker 3:All right, go with the OGs.
Speaker 5:I do enjoy giggling at Zach Bagans. It's quite comical.
Speaker 3:Giggling because he's horrible.
Speaker 5:He's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because he's dramatic.
Speaker 5:Yes.
Speaker 3:Yes, all right Now. I just had to like put on my thinking cap to see what horrible, disgusting human being is going to be mentioned in this question. All right, are you ready? All right, john Olson or Richard Kuklinski the Iceman?
Speaker 5:So I am terrible with names. I don't even know who either one of those are.
Speaker 1:John Olsen is me, but DW is Ha yes, john Olsen is me, but DW Ha yes.
Speaker 5:The actors.
Speaker 4:Oh, that was beautiful.
Speaker 5:That was terrible.
Speaker 4:No, you did not realize. This happened once before and I was like it is going to happen again. I cannot wait for it to happen again.
Speaker 5:So, thank you, you couldn't have one over the other because it wouldn't work so myself or see richard kuklinski was the ice man.
Speaker 3:What he was, he was a mob hit man and probably killed like over a hundred and some people. So you could either choose me as a wonderful, awesome human being, or richard kuklinski, who obviously murders people for money no, I think you're funnier all right, there we go, all right, even though the devastating blow earlier it's only. I don't even edit these, I can't even edit that out. That's.
Speaker 5:That's what's messed up that was awesome that's, that's a, that's a harleyism.
Speaker 3:I do that quite a bit that was, that was good harley, it's I.
Speaker 4:I thought, hang on, I thought you were gonna do jeffrey dahmer, and then she was gonna have to think about it and be like well, jeffrey dahmer also had an appeal for body parts, so maybe he and I would get along. You know, I I thought that's who you would have picked eat people.
Speaker 3:We do have a lot.
Speaker 4:You know right, she has a lot. She probably would have been able to have a very intelligent conversation with him we would have hung out. We would have hung out in the woods and, like you know, preserved wet specimens together, right right, so she has more in common with him than you, so you probably would have lost that one, even though nothing can top the first round anyways. So I'm happy with how things turned out.
Speaker 5:I don't know, you are no, and I? I do not need people actually bit.
Speaker 4:And while I'm thinking of it, just so we can get it on record, john, uh, since we have a t-shirt for me, I think we need to have one for you that says who's john olsen sounds like a plan, I'll do it.
Speaker 3:I'll do it, don't worry. It'll be out, like you're hearing this, probably a week from now, but it's been out and you can buy it at crowd made slash there you go.
Speaker 3:All right, harley, you have been. This has been just as much fun as I thought it was going to be. Uh, I enjoyed, man, like I said, you know, it's one thing to be into the paranormal which you are, it's one thing to have the stories which you do, but it's another thing to have all that interesting stuff. And when I was like, I seen that and I'm like all right, we're gonna talk about this because, yeah, people are gonna want to know so and that's, that's really cool. So all the people out there listen. Uh, if you don't live in the four states that were mentioned earlier, it's minnesota, georgia. Where was the other ones? Do you remember?
Speaker 5:louisiana, and then there's one other one I can't remember the other one doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:It's probably west virginia, it's probably it's. I'm not gonna. It's either ohio or west virginia. It's probably the truth there, but anyway, if you don't live in those four states and you want to do any of this, do it Because I mean it's cool, it looks cool and it's interesting as hell and, trust me, it'll be a conversation piece for your next date or your future mother-in-law, which would be really hilarious In my case the maintenance guy. Right, or the maintenance guy. All right, harley, you've been amazing. I just want to tell you that.
Speaker 5:For having me, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3:You're very welcome, so how was your first time it?
Speaker 5:was really cool. No, I geek out about this stuff, so awesome.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, you can geek out and tell all your friends to geek out as well, all right, well, you know what? Um, you know what that means. That means, dw. Do you have anything else to say? No, I'm good all right, he wants to go home. And with that, I'm gonna have to say this you guys have been amazing, we have been Scalarius and we are out.
Speaker 4:Later.