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Ep. 62 From Casino Floors to Haunted Doors: The Ross House
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Picture this: you're trying to enjoy the excitement of a Vikings vs. LA Rams game without stumbling upon spoilers on social media. That's exactly the dilemma DW, aka the Diddy Waitlist, faces in our latest episode. As we chat about sports and ponder the hilarity of potential future episodes featuring our spouses, we also navigate the lighter side of sports fandom, complete with DW's playful banter with his wife about post-broadcast game surprises. It's a balancing act between the thrill of real-time sports and life in the digital age, and we promise plenty of laughs along the way.
Switching gears, we welcome Cindy, a former casino industry veteran turned haunted house owner, who shares her unexpected journey from the lively streets of Las Vegas to the eerie, ghost-laden halls of Ohio. Initially skeptical about the supernatural (thanks to her dad’s ghostly cautions), Cindy found herself in a world of paranormal discoveries that led to opening her house for investigations. She offers a peek into the history and haunting tales of Ross House, and her entrepreneurial spirit shines through as she talks about transforming spooky experiences into a thriving business.
Get ready for some spine-tingling tales as Cindy recounts her chilling encounters with spirits, especially a particularly pesky one named Alfred. From mysterious touches and strange noises in her escape room to unsettling ghostly interactions at home, Cindy's stories are as thrilling as they are terrifying. But it's not all bumps in the night; we also share lighter moments, including a humorous run-in with "Bad Benny" and a fun questionnaire that reveals Cindy's ties to Las Vegas. Whether you're a fan of ghost stories or curious about the haunted Ross House, this episode promises an entertaining and eerie escape into the paranormal.
Do you like stories about haunted locations, or maybe tales of cryptids and spooky folklore from around the world? If so, why not tune in to Haunted Escapes with Chris and Diane, where all this and more will be discussed? New episodes drop every Sunday, the visual versions the following Friday on YouTube. So why not come join us on our haunted escapes YouTube? So why not come join us on?
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Speaker 3:What's going on? This is scolarius, I am john olsen and with me, as always, is dw, the diddy waitlist, serene oh, hang on, oh shoot, there we go, okay, all right, come on, man. That was a good diddy waitlist. That's a waitlist I wouldn't want to be on dw I'm telling you I don't pay attention to those anymore that was.
Speaker 3:That was. That was excellent. That was a really good one. That one made me laugh a lot, like a lot, not right now, but earlier when I was thinking of it. Okay, as long as one person left you on the. It's still not comedy if only one person come come on, man, you, you escaped the flight, log you, whatever, oh yeah. So how's it going, buddy?
Speaker 4:it's going good. Um, now we uh, we should, or at least I should point out that we're recording this during a very important game, and so if I suddenly seem very interested in the podcast, it means that my home team has scored. I'm not actually excited about anything that happened here, okay, so all right.
Speaker 4:Well, if I if I go, oh my gosh, um, no, I'm, in all seriousness, I am paying attention, um, so I I'm just trying to to multitask because I'm I'm very interested in the game and, uh, I don't know. And I'll say this Sometimes I do have a it's not a TiVo, but it's a video recording device. Sometimes I will watch the game and record the game and watch it later, you know, and not hear the score and stuff like that.
Speaker 4:I have found, though, that recently, with social media and everything, it is so hard to not know the score of a game, especially a game like this, to not know the outcome of a game, because it's just all over the place. So it's really hard to like back in the old days, the old days, all you had to do was not watch the news or listen to the radio and you knew that you'd be OK. Nowadays, like, people post on Facebook, you know their reaction to the outcome. So, like, even people who aren't even sports fans will post reactions and stuff like that. So I just feel like nowadays it's really hard to um to I don't know what the term is I'm looking for shield yourself from knowing who won so exactly, it's kind of like uh spoilers in movies, essentially in a way.
Speaker 4:In a way, yeah, I also feel like sometimes, though, even if I know the score, I'll still go back and watch it, because if it turns out the game was like 33 to 34 or something, it's like, oh, that was close, I bet you that was a good game to watch. Or if I hear that, oh, it went into overtime, or there was this big play at the very end that won the whole thing, I might watch it then, even though I know who wins. But anyway, I think and the other thing is like for this game in particular I want to know so badly. It's going to be hard to wait that long to find out.
Speaker 3:Well, you'll be able to check it, as we're going through long to find out. You'll be able to check it. As we're going through, I'm sure I'll be able to check it.
Speaker 4:So every once in a while you can say, hey, dw, you listening, and I'll be like, uh, hang on, not really. Yeah, okay, now I am yeah, all right.
Speaker 3:So just so everybody knows, uh, this right now this episode is going to be released. Obviously, as you're hearing this, it's January 22nd, but as we're recording it, it is during the Vikings and the LA Rams wildcard game. So that is why DW is, you know, he's kind of on edge right now. But as you're hearing this, either A the Rams have won or B the Vikings have won, and they have either A gone on to beat the Philadelphia Eagles or B they have gone on to lose to the Philadelphia Eagles. So, as you're listening to this right now, either the Vikings are on their way to the nfc championship or they have been home for two weeks and um, yeah, fair to say.
Speaker 4:Well, and here's, here's the thing, here's the joke my wife always does. She's like oh, do you want to know who won? The team that scored the most points and she likes to do that to me, you know, and there. It is a surprise visit from mrs serene so I don't know if we'll ever get her on the show.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure you never know, like we, we've always talked about doing the whole like subscription thing and having the betrothals on. So you know it, it's a uh, it's a possibility. We could probably do this. But I have to say, I have to say some things. Do you have a?
Speaker 4:number one do you have a legal disclaimer?
Speaker 3:I don't have a legal disclaimer I don't because people have been very, very, I guess, patient with me, because they know that I'm able to say whatever and I'm not cancelled yet.
Speaker 4:So that's a good thing, um don't say it like that, because I'm co-hosting too, so then I won't have a podcast. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3:And, and obviously it is getting us work. So, uh, but anyway, um, a couple of things I wanted to uh bring up Number one. Number one is, as you're hearing this, you, we may or may not have a tick tock, just actually tick tock may or may not even exist, ok, so it's the truth. That's, that's what it is. So we're going to start doing a lot more on Instagram, so we'll get to that part in just a minute, but I do want to. I did want to bring that up and say that. Number two is this is a scolarius first, and what I mean by a scolarius first is a scolarius first, and that is this. I am completely 100% sober. Um, okay, wait, hold on, maybe this is going.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all yeah, all right. Yeah, thc stays in your system for 30 days, so probably not 100 sober, but I have not have not used any thc products prior to this recording, and I am not drinking a thc soda today. I'm actually just drinking a sparkling ice caffeine. So, um, I got a couple of them next to me and that's that's kind of what I'm going. So that's a first right and probably a last, to be fair I was gonna say what's wrong with you uh, nothing.
Speaker 3:I just I didn't really feel it today, so not a big deal. Some days I don't feel it, and today's one of them. Um, another really cool thing uh, I'm sure that everybody who listens to this podcast has heard of the tiger king, right?
Speaker 3:probably okay, so I don't know if this is known or whatever, but but zach baggins, our good buddy zach, zach baggins and his crew did in, did an episode on the gw zoo um a couple years back I think it was during the pandemic, I believe. Um, well, anyway, anyway, I decided, you know we heard from like Jeff Lowe and his wife or whatever, lauren on there, and you heard from Zach and Aaron and all that stuff on there, but you know there's never been anything from Joe Exotic himself. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:So your boy, you know your favorite of the co-ghosts, john. He decided he was going to email good old Joe Exotic. And well, let's just say this there is a possibility if, if we can get through all the legal ramifications and everything because he is in federal prison, that scolarius will have the tiger king himself, joe exotic on scolarius so if he's still in prison, does that mean our mean, our episode will have to be limited to like whatever his length is the phone call length, I think is like 20 minutes or something like that.
Speaker 3:So his guest appearance will be 20 minutes and me and you are just going to have to do the rest of it, and I think we will have zero problem with that. So he's done documentary after documentary. Have zero problem with that. So he's done documentary after documentary and um yeah, so fingers crossed, guys. Fingers crossed as today is january 22nd as you're listening to this, fingers crossed that you know we will have the tiger king on scolarius in the near future. I thought that was pretty cool. As you know, I had thought about reaching out to Stormy Daniels, but I felt that Joe Exotic would be a lot more fun. So just saying anyway.
Speaker 4:I don't know, you know it'd be, you know it'd be interesting. What's that? Maybe stormy daniels has some deal where she can only be on for like a half hour, so do a double episode of first 20 minutes tiger king and then 30 minutes stormy daniels.
Speaker 3:You never know, we'll see. We'll see what kind of magic.
Speaker 4:And then 10 minutes of Betrothed going gosh. That was a freaking mistake. Why did you? Why?
Speaker 3:did I let you do that? No, she would never do that. You never know. Let's see what kind of magic good old John can pull out of his sleeve. Let's see. Let's see what kind of magic good old john can pull out of his sleeve.
Speaker 4:Huh, let's, let's see, let's see, let's see what we could do. It's the most unsettling thing I've ever heard you say that's not the most unsettling you've heard way worse.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true, all right, so you know I I alluded to it a little bit earlier that tiktok might be going away, and if it does go away, don't worry. Don't worry, there is still several places where you can find us where you can seriously, and one of them, especially if you want to talk to dw, is you go to dw serene comedian on facebook. If you want to talk to me, you go to john olson Comedian 2.0 on Facebook. You can find us both together on Facebook.
Speaker 4:We're not a couple.
Speaker 3:No, we're not a couple. You can find us at the Scalarius page. Also, hit us up on Instagram, also at Scalarius. I'm leaving the TikTok page out because I don't know, maybe it'll come back. You never know, maybe it will the next time.
Speaker 3:But, right now. Now I'm saying tiktok's probably gone, so I'm not even gonna say it. And if you want to email us, you can email us at scolariaspod at gmailcom or or if you want to go and listen to every single scalarious episode that we have and you want to get a hold of us there, you can. You can at ScalariousPodBuzzsproutcom. You just go to the fan mail thing right there, click on that Boom, you put your little message up there and we'll see it. And it'd be really nice if we can get one on there that says they like John for once. That would be great. I would, you know. I'm just saying.
Speaker 4:First time for everything, hey, yeah, Maybe, maybe, all right.
Speaker 3:So, dw, I know you want to watch a game and that's cool, but you know we still have paranormal and comedy business to attend to. All right, we do so. With that being said, I just want to say our our guest this week, this I think this is pretty awesome. A few weeks back, we had a guest on who owned a haunted house that was rented out to um people to investigate, and that's the Boyd house in in Boyd Minnesota. Right, yeah, but now we're going to I can't even say it's the east coast and, first of all, it's not the midwest either. I don't care.
Speaker 3:Ohio, indiana and Michigan are not the midwest. You know why they're not the midwest? Because they're an hour earlier than us and that means that they're on the eastern side, which means which means or an hour later. Technically, anyway, it doesn't matter. They're on the east, so they're over there. And this place, this place is in bel-air, ohio, and it is a haunted attraction that I want to know all the info on and you guys want to hear the info on. So, with that being said, I would like to introduce to you our guest this week, cindy Kuhn, from the Ross House in good old Bel Air, ohio. Cindy, how are you doing today?
Speaker 5:I'm doing pretty good, enjoying what you guys are talking about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're pretty good. I think we're kind of funny in a way. I mean, I would hope so. It's kind of our gig.
Speaker 5:Well, that's good, I like it.
Speaker 3:That's good. So I have to ask you this how's the weather in ohio today?
Speaker 5:it sucks, it just sucks. It's colder than shit it. You know you're looking at 20, some degrees, 30 degrees. You know I'm not a I'm not a happy winter person. I'll, I'll tell you that. So I'm just counting down the days to spring uh, we are currently at six.
Speaker 3:We're at six degrees and I think the wind chill is several degrees below. So it is it's cold, it's very cold yeah, that's a big hell.
Speaker 5:No, there. I spent many years in Vegas, living in Vegas, so this is, just you know, not a good thing right now.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, I mean, you're kind of, in a way, leading the way a little bit. So with that, I mean you lived in Vegas, now you're in Ohio. So how did you get there? Why did you get there and, most importantly, what made you purchase a haunted house?
Speaker 5:Well, I actually did not purchase a haunted house, you have to understand. I was born and raised in Bel Air, I was in the casino business and the casino business takes you a lot of different places and I ended up moving to Las Vegas from, you know, for many, many years and I stayed there until my husband passed away and then I came back here to the Ohio Valley to raise my kids and I was in the casino business actually for 46 years. So that's pretty much all I knew was that, although I still call Vegas my hometown, that's where my buds are. But anyway, so the house, basically, you have to understand, my family has a store right next to the house and we have used furniture in the antique store and my dad would was always into real estate, buying all houses around the store and everything, but this one particular house was never up for sale and when the final owner passed away, that's when my family purchased this and that was in 1990. So that's the actual beginning of the house. But still, at that time in 1990, I was still living in Vegas, but my dad actually used this house as a rental for quite a while. But there was a lot of construction going on there and people would come and go, they'd tear things up and, you know, it became a mess and basically, after a while, my dad decided to use it as a storage for any furniture that he would bring in that he couldn, that he couldn't sell. Basically, uh, we buy out of states and, um, so people pass away, we take on their furniture and all their you know, whatever belongings are left.
Speaker 5:So in 2015, I asked my dad if I could have the house, because I like escape rooms and I wanted to start a business. I was thinking you know, what am I going to do once I retire? Right, because I was starting to get up there in age a little bit thinking about stuff. But I do like escape rooms and at first my dad didn't want me to have it and he, you know my dad would say Cindy, oh, you don't want that house, there's ghosts in there that's how he would say a ghost. And anyway, I thought I was just bullshitty. He just doesn't want me to mess with all of his stuff over there. He finally gave in let me have the house. And I had no idea about the paranormal. Still don't understand a lot of this stuff. Some of this stuff scares me a little bit. Some of this stuff I'm just not so sure about.
Speaker 5:But I started to clean out the house in 2015 and things started happening. And I mean, I was just, I used to just blow things off, thinking I'm just hearing things. I'm just, you know, I'm tired because I work and I got to clean out this place, get it ready to open up for an escape room, but then it became obvious that there was issues in the house and I had to, at that point, call in and with help with people that, uh, I had heard about and uh, and one of them was, uh, kristin lee, who actually has another, has a haunted house in bel-air, and, uh, she brought in a team which I think, uh, steve humble might have been Okay At one point, I think, he joined that team and came up and they were trying to help me out. They investigated and tried to get me to understand what's going on in that house and, boy, I guess I'm just old and stubborn. Oh, boy, I guess I'm just old and stubborn. You know, I tried to make you know, make it work and, just, you know, do what they said to do and everything. And you know, eventually I'll just fast forward just a little bit.
Speaker 5:But you know, escape Zone was there for six years and you know, and we, we, things were happening in that place the entire time. Um, and some people would ask me, cindy, do you have plants in that house? Do you, you know, to make people? You know, because escape rooms are are fun, but sometimes they can be a little scary too. Right, um, and we just got to where escape zone had to move out of there.
Speaker 5:Um, you know, the area town's not the best anymore and it's actually in cambridge, ohio now, and, um, we were just going to go ahead and use it, you know, for, you know, for furniture and everything, and, um, the lady, uh, kristen, told me that I should use it, you know, just open up for full-time investigations, and that's what I ended up doing and that's, uh was two and a half years ago and, uh, it's it's been interesting, it's been very interesting. Um, what can I say? It's um, a lot of, a lot of. I found out a lot of things about the area, um, and about why things happen.
Speaker 5:Um, and I don't think it's just my house that has activity. I, I am, uh, I've come to the belief that it's the land that has is one of the reasons why there's so much going on. I do have some resident spirits and people that have lived there before and they've made themselves known, and it seems like the house also has a spirit by the name of Alfred, who actually lived next door across the street I should say not next door across the street who has taken up residence in the house, and this spirit actually passed away in 1925 in a coal mine two miles down the road.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow, yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so it's been quite a ride, it's been very interesting. So it's been quite a ride, it's been very interesting. And it's things that I try to, I try to understand, you know, and I will say this I've met a lot of really great people with when I go to greet them, because I try to make sure I'm there every single time to let these people in to greet them and talk to them, and I always try, you know, since I was an executive host in a casino, I I like to get to get to know these people and their history, what they're about, and I'll tell you there's a big, I mean there's a big variation. I mean it's just a lot of different people from different backgrounds that are interested in this stuff and, um, it's crazy, it's, it's neat, it's, uh, it's fun, but, uh, I don't actually investigate myself have you ever never wow just
Speaker 5:my house just my just being, just my house, just my just being in my house. But at the same time, see, I'm just not so sure and I'll tell you why. You know, you see so many people and I have people make comments to me about being scratched, about being. I actually witnessed a lady who felt like she was being stabbed, and this woman wasn't putting this on, she was gray. You know, I've I've just I've witnessed a lot happen here and that makes me wonder what the hell is this? You know that it can actually hurt somebody. You know that it can actually hurt somebody and make them feel the way they do.
Speaker 5:I've had people bust out crying and then I'm afraid to leave them. You know, I'm like God damn what the hell's going on here. You know, so I have oh boy, I don't quite understand everything yet. Well, I probably never will, but that's one of the reasons Well, one of the few reasons that I don't investigate myself. And another thing is I don't like being. I mean a lot of these people. They go out in cold weather and cemeteries and all that shit and it's like, nah, I think I'll pass and cemeteries and all that shit and it's like nah, I think I'll pass.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm not a cold person. I don't like to be cold, you know, but my house is heated but they have fun. I mean, I, I just I had the best time this past weekend with some people who wanted to have a year in review party and I'll tell you what it was a blast. I stuck around for a little bit before they while they showed their different places. They went and you know, and I and they did a thing where the best evidence review, and it was they picked my place and a certain thing that happened at my place and but it was, you know. So I, I people, and I'm always happy when they catch things. You know, I can never promise that these spirits will be around at that time when they're there, but I always I hope they are, you know. Right.
Speaker 5:But it seems like they're having a good-ass time, you know, so that makes me happy.
Speaker 3:That's good time, you know, so that makes me happy. That's good. What? What do you think the percentage is of times people catch something, compared to people going in there and spending the night or whatever, not getting anything?
Speaker 5:It always gets something, except very, very seldom does somebody walk out of there and say they didn't get anything. Very seldom, oh yeah, on my Facebook page, when I was debating whether to open this up or not, I just started browsing around and reading things about other people and and what some of these investigators were saying and, um, I decided number one, that um, I, whatever happens in that happens in that house, okay, um, I'm going to tell the truth, as I have been finding out the truth by going to the courthouse and everything. I'm never going to exaggerate. I don't want to be caught in any lies. So, with that, I just tell the people that what you see is what you get.
Speaker 5:I can't promise and I leave it at that. I give them the history of the house, the owners, the spirits that have been there. If they want to know, I always ask them do they want to know or do they want to go in blind? And then I leave. You know, but it's it's. I just always give the truth and I can't promise nothing. You know, but it's it's. I just always give the truth and I can't promise nothing. You know, but it's very seldom. I think not very many block out with hardly anything but what I did do too I kind of got off. Subject there a little bit is whatever people I have in my kitchen on the ross house I have, uh, dry erase boards and I ask them, I and I tell each and every one that that is my only source of advertising. And you know, I don't do the paid facebook and all that.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 5:Horseshit, but I just do the. You know whatever I said. If you don't mind, write down what you catch, like when you take a break, and when I come back in, those boards are filled, okay, the next day, and I take a snapshot of those boards and I post them. I don't add anything to them, I post exactly what they write, okay, and that tells me that they're having a good time. And that's my main concern and that's what I want for them to have a good time. That's a really cool idea.
Speaker 3:That is a good idea.
Speaker 1:A very good idea, yeah, all right. We're going to get down good idea Very good idea.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right, we're going to get down to the business side of this. Okay, how much do you charge per night?
Speaker 5:Okay, so you know I run a lot of specials, Okay, but a normal night during the week is $200, and that's up to five people, five investigators. Okay, On a Friday, a Saturday or a Sunday, I charge $300 a night, up to five investigators. Now the house and I think five investigators is totally enough for that house. The house is not that big, it's not a mansion, okay, it's a regular three-bedroom house and the house was built in 1895, so there's not a lot of insulation in the house, right? So you know you want to be able to have a good investigation without hearing each other.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, so now there is. You want to be able to have a good investigation without hearing each other.
Speaker 5:Right, yeah, now there is another side to this Attached, believe it or not, attached by a door is the barn furniture, okay, which is our family business, and it is about 7,500 square foot, okay, and sometimes, if people have a big team, we let them go in and investigate the store as well, for an additional $200.
Speaker 3:Wow, yeah. Either way that's not bad, because if we're talking 300 bucks for five people, you're not getting a hotel for that. So I mean, and yeah, it's, it's uh, so what are the amenities like there and what? I don't mean like you know, turn down service or like, but I'm just saying like, uh, obviously it's sort there like a working fridge and stuff like that you could put food in and yes so there is, there's, there is a kitchen in there.
Speaker 5:There, um, that you know, there's a kitchen in there. There's no stove in there, um, but there's a microwave, a hot plate, a refrigerator, a freezer. You know it's, it's a, it's a kitchen, it's a. It's a smaller kitchen, but it's a full kitchen. There's a table in there. I always have there's a Keurig. I always leave coffee there. There's always creamer tea bags. You know sugar, you know sweet and low. Well, you know, I always leave soda water in the refrigerator for them and some chips or whatever I might have at the time. Sometimes I throw out cookies or, you know, it just depends Mostly chips and stuff like that, so they have something to munch on.
Speaker 4:Again, it's more than what you would get at a hotel.
Speaker 5:Absolutely, oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5:I have some rules in the house. I have a in I. What I did was, before I got on here, I put I put some pictures of the house on my Facebook page in a group so that if anybody wants to go onto the Ross house page they can actually see the house. The house now. The house is a work in progress. Uh, it was an escape room two and a half years ago, right, um, and I have done redone the? Uh downstairs, but I have not redone the upstairs yet. So there's some areas that are still real rough. But they can go on there and look and see. I have took pictures of everything, I think, except for the bathroom. Do you have?
Speaker 4:heating, air conditioning, oh yeah, there's heat.
Speaker 5:There's, there is heat in the winter time. In the summertime I have window air, so you know it's 24 7. Uh, these people can check in as early as five o'clock. Some of them that, um, you know they, if they get in town earlier, because sometimes we'll get people to stay the whole weekend and everything. You know they, if they get in town earlier, because sometimes we'll get people to stay the whole weekend and everything. You know. If they want to come in earlier, that that's fine, I'll come down earlier. I live about 15 minutes away. Um, so, yeah, they could stay in then they could investigate all night. There's, there's always fresh bedding. I have, uh, I have one full. There's three bedrooms. One of the rooms has a full size bed and the other two rooms have twins, but there's also blow up mattresses if they need them in that. So, yeah, and there's always fresh bedding. You know you could sleep there. You can actually sleep there. You don't have to worry about anything like that. You know it's kept clean.
Speaker 4:I mean, that was my, that was was my first thought. When you mentioned how old the house was, I was like, okay there, they probably didn't have central air when it was built.
Speaker 5:So stay there when it's hot. So right, yeah, so I, you know I got about five air, uh window air units that I run in the in the summertime oh wow.
Speaker 3:What's the square footage of the house? You said three bedroom, so what ours is, um, I think like 2 000 something, it's.
Speaker 5:I mean, it's not I'm gonna say it's about 1700. I'm not real sure, but I'm gonna say about 1700 square foot. Okay, nice, that's not too bad.
Speaker 3:Two floors and five people in 1700 square feet is not.
Speaker 5:It's not overcrowded, no so no, because you know, a lot of people really enjoy the basement. Um, so, yeah, no, it's not bad at all, you know, but if you get a bigger group, I think it's too much. Um, and what I have found is people get better results with smaller teams. Okay, I think, yeah, they do. They get better results with smaller teams and being just very quiet, it's odd. It's almost like the house has a pulse or a personality in a way. I mean, it's just crazy. But another thing I wanted to mention is I? Another reason I feel that the house has so much activity is because we're on a ley line and that means there's always a flow of energy that does, you know, coming through and is that based on?
Speaker 3:okay, you're in a river valley. I've seen the map of the house. You're literally you could throw a rock from the front door and probably hit the Ohio River.
Speaker 5:Oh, definitely yes yeah. There's been a lot of flooding there too.
Speaker 3:Well, probably not the best thing to have. No, you're, you know, on the ground floor of that thing and you know, in the summertime, uh, if, yeah, if it was happening. But uh, I would assume you know you're that close to west virginia, you have a whole lot of coal mine stuff happening over there. I think, um, where you're at, uh, yeah, and I, it's a, the ground is different, like the, the. Uh, the earth is is a lot different there and it has different roles and things like that in it which conduct energy which I mean, has been proven or disproven throughout the years a lot of limestone, a lot of limestone yep, and that's uh, supposedly a, uh, a conductor of energy, whether it's paranormal or not.
Speaker 3:Uh, so you say it's so active. So let me ask you this what is the scariest thing that you've heard? Now, I'm not saying you experienced yourself, but what is the scariest thing you've heard about the activity there?
Speaker 5:okay. So I have, um, this one gentleman. He's been to the house quite a few times and just dearly love him. I mean, he is just a big teddy bear, you know, and I won't say his name, uh, although hopefully I don't mess up and say it, but uh, sometimes he likes to uh provoke a little bit, okay, and, um, he was in the house one time. I think he learned his lesson on this. So he was in the house one time and uh, alfred, um, the spirit alfred can get a little, um mean, okay, um, and this gentleman is uh provoking alfred and alfred choked him and Alfred choked him, okay, and he just, you know, he just kept going with it and he kept feeling choked. He stopped and did some other stuff and went on through the house some more, came back and he started provoking again and he actually went and threw up, yeah, yeah, wow, that was not good. The other one was this I had these ladies come in and this whole team came in and they're all mediums and the first time they were ever in the house and they did not want to know anything about the spirits that are in there, anything about the house whatsoever.
Speaker 5:And there's, there was four of them and one gentleman, and they came in and I noticed this one little bit. She was a little bit older and she is starting to act a little bit funny and her husband was talking to her. Actually there was two men, I forgot, yeah, there's two men there. And she went and she sat in the front room and her husband's putting her his arm around her and she's going, I'll be okay, I'll be okay. And then she started walking around and then all of a sudden she starts crying in pain and she says he's stabbing me in the back. He's stabbing me in the back. Now I'm sitting there. What the fuck is happening here? I'm I don't know what the shit. You know here, I'm the owner of the house. I don't know what to do for this lady. And then two other mediums come in and they're talking and they sit her in the chair in the dining room and all of a sudden the one says Alfred, you're hurting her, let her go, let her go. And you don't realize what you're doing to her. This woman is gray and I'm going. I don't know. I don't know what to think about this. I know this woman's not putting this shit on because she, I mean, she's crying and she's in pain and these spirits, or these mediums, knew the name of the spirit that was hurting her and they're they're saying let her go, let her go. Before long the color starts coming back to her face, she's starting to relax. They gave her a tissue to wipe her eyes and everything and I'm, and I'm feeling helpless really.
Speaker 5:The uh, the leader of the of that group, I says what I asked him. I said what the hell was that about? I said I ain't never seen shit like this in my life. And he says she doesn't know how to funnel it when they come at her and I'm sitting there. I didn't know what to think, you know. But I know what I did after the next day.
Speaker 5:So, just being an old goddamn granny, I guess I went in there because this one lady that helps me keep the house calm, she says you have to take ownership of your house and you have to let you know.
Speaker 5:Because I'm sitting there thinking I don't want that Alfred dude to come after me. And so I went in there and I'm hollering at a goddamn wall and I'm telling Alfred you know, don't you ever do that to anybody again and don't you ever come, come at me like that and and I got this, you know the smudge out and I'm going like running around doing all kinds of shit, like like I know what the hell I'm doing. I'm really don't know what the hell I'm doing. But you know, and I'm the only thing I could think of was I'm glad my girlfriends are with me to see this, because they got lost my mind. But I knew I had to take ownership of the house. And if that spirit set his ass straight and you know, and for someone who's somewhat of a skeptic on some things, I just I was not sure. It just blew my mind, really Blew my mind. So you're a skeptic in some ways On some things. There's some things I believe, some things I don't believe.
Speaker 3:Okay. So you said earlier on when you were I want to go back to when it was in the escape room and you said people were like, hey, you have plants in there. What were the stories you were hearing from people?
Speaker 5:They would say they were being touched, poked, things like that. Yeah, help would get scared. I had a nephew who he called me. He was so scared. He was my game master. He was so scared. He went running out one day. Yeah, Wow.
Speaker 3:So this stuff was happening like consistently.
Speaker 5:Yeah, when it was escape room.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like first of all like escape rooms, like escape rooms, like you said, can be, you know, I mean they're, they're like fun. But they have. Sometimes they have like a horror vibe to it which makes it really cool. But depending on the rooms, you're correct. Yeah, when you're not expecting it to be a horror room, you know, or whatever else and stuff like that's happening. I can see why that would be like really trippy. Um, so has anything ever really happened to you in that house?
Speaker 5:yeah, yeah, a couple things, um. Number one I try not to spend a lot of time in that house because it gives me a headache. Okay, I feel pressure in my head if I'm there too long. So when I go in there I try to get my stuff done, straighten up the house, get the trash out from whoever was there before. Yeah, you know, do the? Uh, change the bedding and that Um, but I try to get out.
Speaker 5:Now, this past weekend I did not and I was okay, but a lot of times it gives me a headache, um, but yeah, so when I was in there one time, um, so when it was escape room, um, and I had to call for help or start getting out, that the house had activity and I had a gentleman who wanted to come in and investigate and he has to come in after my games are done and I'm S the games were done and I'm sitting in the office area and I um, I'm waiting on him to get there and all of a sudden I felt like I was being surrounded by people. You know like, I felt like someone was invading my space, right?
Speaker 5:right and they kept. It felt like they were getting closer and closer and I I'm like, well, I'm here by myself, but this feels weird and it just it was just the weirdest feeling and I thought that I'm just freaking myself out. So I called Sean. I said Sean, how far out are you? He says, well, I'm still an hour out. I thought, well, son of a bitch. I said I got to get the hell out of here. There's something that doesn't feel right in here. And I gave him the code for the door and I got in my car and I started heading home. Now, the only thing in the passenger side was my purse, but I felt like someone was in the car with me. Oh, my.
Speaker 5:God. And what's odd is I oh, hold on a minute, alexa, stop. Somehow. Alexa picked that up Anyhow. It felt like somebody was in the car with me. And I go home and I watch the late news. I turn off the TV and I go home and I watch the late news, I turn off the TV and I go to bed and the TV comes back on. Five times that happened and I thought I don't know what the hell this is about and I finally unplugged my TV. So come to find out, because I had met up with this little lady who she does Reiki and she has all these powers. My friend knew her. She came over and she was explaining that something had followed me home.
Speaker 5:I didn't know anything about all this stuff and that was not cool. I didn't like anything about all this stuff and and that was that was not cool I had to have. I didn't like that at all. And then another thing that happened to me was I was with my sister and it was an escape room still and I was showing her the latest room that we'd done and we heard a bang downstairs and we came out of that room, walked down the hallway.
Speaker 5:We were swinging around to go down the stairs, okay, and I saw a big face, a big face right there near the stairs and my sister saw it too and scared the living shit out of us and I just wanted I ran, I just ran, I just I can't tell you I saw a body. I just remember a face would look like wet hair, scared, scared me to death, just scared me to death. Um boy, another time we were doing a public investigation and there's a girl in the basement her name is Anna and I said in the in downstairs, I says, uh, anna, I says, if you don't mind, I want you to just touch my fingers, I want to feel you touch my fingers. And I just was hoping that he feels some tingly right and that's on my fingers.
Speaker 5:And then, all of a sudden, the cat ball goes off, the REM pod goes off, and then, a second later, I feel somebody running their hands through my hair. Oh, and I jumped and I ran up those stairs and everyone's screaming Don't run, cindy, don't run. And I was like bullshit. I mean, I didn't go in that basement for two and a half weeks. I thought that's, I'm not fucking out of here. Buttercup man, you know that's scary shit, you know I, I mean, I felt like fingers were going through my hair. I thought that that shit ain't for me. So, anyway, um, those were the things that, uh, that stick out in my mind now. Have I heard things? Yeah, I've heard a lot and, uh, I've seen things happen, um, but I just, um, I don't know, you know I, I don't, you know, can't quite explain it. Really, you know, can't quite explain it. I don't know why.
Speaker 3:sometimes they're like mean, sometimes they're nice I'm gonna ask you this very simple question and I feel like okay. So on a scale of one to ten, one being casper level haunted and ten being the roof of the firehouse and ghostbusters exploding and every ghost in the um, in the containment unit, flying out into the streets of new york. How haunted is the ross house?
Speaker 5:I could tell you that I think and I still feel that, even though I have activity from residential intelligent spirits in that house, I think that whole piece of land has issues. Okay, that whole ground is cursed. I I believe that with my whole heart there's something there, there's some. I mean, I know that shawnee and dens were there. I know all the flooding, all the people that lost their lives around her. I don't think, um, you know everybody I can't give. I just don't know that I could put that. It's not casper, it's definitely not casper. Alfred is not casper and, uh, big willie that tends to come around at times is definitely not a casper. Um, I'm gonna put it at maybe an eight Holy moly.
Speaker 3:Wow, look at that, that's pretty good.
Speaker 5:It's just all you know. People tell me your place is so unique, and they go, they pick up. You have to read the reviews, right? Yeah, you know, and what people say, I'm going to stick it as an eight. Yeah, because I know there's some places that are really like crazy, and you know, and, and sometimes the house is crazy, and one time, uh, and people tell me that you know, the house, house shakes sometimes. And I don't, I think it's the, it's underneath the ground, it's shaking, that's what I think. I mean. I don't, I think it's the it's underneath the ground, it's shaking, that's what I think. I mean. I don't know. You know, sometimes they say the house will shake geez isn't that weird yeah, it's incredible, it's a ground.
Speaker 5:I think it's the ground shaking. I think there's something into the ground shaking is what I think they've, they've. I've heard so many things, I mean.
Speaker 3:So Do you have repeat Groups that go in there?
Speaker 5:Oh my, gosh, yes, all the time. Yeah, I mean we're basically I'm not well known out there In the paranormal field, yet you know I get a lot of repeats. Absolutely, people love coming there, yeah.
Speaker 3:You're on Scolarius now. Cindy, you'll be well known in the paranormal field. Okay, Okay. Either you'll be a like. This is how it's going to work. Either your place will be the most reputable haunted house in America or you will be the laughingstock of the haunted houses in America. One of the two is going to happen, okay.
Speaker 5:I stand by my word on everything I said. I don't bullshit. I like to laugh and joke and everything with everybody, but I stand by what I say on the house.
Speaker 3:That's good. I'm glad, because that's what makes it. The credibility is what makes it even better If you're standing by it and you're saying, hey, this is the way it is the stories that you told us. Here are. Some of them are bone chilling. The haunted like, sincerely, a ghost following you home sitting in your car. That shit's creepy.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah. I have no idea what the hell is going on. I you know, and that's the things that scare me because, um, I don't want any shit in my house. Okay, where I live, you know it could stay at that house. And when I go out, every time I, after I leave people, the first thing that comes out of my mouth is you're not allowed to follow my ass home.
Speaker 3:You know, my house is peaceful there you go, that's the way, yeah, you don't want to bring it home.
Speaker 3:And you know I I do investigations, I did, uh, quite a bit. I I do like I'm, you know I'll go to a cemetery, do a ghost box session, or you know, go to a place that that's seemingly haunted, do like ghost fox sessions, or whatever. I I don't, and I'll always say like, all right, I'm leaving, you are not, you're staying right here. You're not allowed to follow me. Uh, maybe we'll talk later, but you're not allowed to follow me home. And it's been good ever. I mean, I've never had any issues.
Speaker 3:The only issue that I will say the only issue that I will say is that we have power lines that run next to our house and you can hear them buzzing. Everything else that's straight energy, right, I mean it's that's what? Uh, now am I do? I have a huge tumor growing in my head from it. It's a possibility. I don't know who knows, but, um, there are times when we're here that you know, maybe, maybe not see out of the corner of your eye somebody walking by or whatever, but I look at it like, as I said, it's energy. If it's here, then it's on in every house by us. You know what I mean. It's not just with us, but, um, I know exactly what you mean. Don't want to bring the evil shit. You know, if it's cool, it's cool, if it's not, it can stay away. That's the way I feel about it. Um, oh yeah, do you have any like? Have you had any well-known paranormal groups that have gone into the Ross house? Yeah.
Speaker 4:You don't have to say your name If you don't want.
Speaker 3:I mean, is it Zach Baggins? Did Zach go there? Did he buy it from you, Is it? Now Is your house, moving to Las Vegas and going into his museum. No, okay, that's good. No.
Speaker 5:He has never been here, but for a very brief period. Sam and Colby were in the house for about an hour. Oh, nice.
Speaker 3:Yeah, very cool, that's cool. Also, another couple of kids. I want to see if I could tangle to get on on our podcast. I feel that'd be, that'd be a lot of fun, because they seem like they're fun and me and DW well, at least I am, we're fun and then yeah, so I think that'd be, that'd be a cool thing. So Sam and Colby were there.
Speaker 4:You said for an hour.
Speaker 3:What did they do?
Speaker 5:for about an hour. So sam and colby were there. You said for an hour. What did they do about an hour?
Speaker 3:huh, they're cute, pretty much pose okay, so they didn't really investigate anything they did.
Speaker 5:They just did a little bit in the basement, but there was a whole big uh thing going on right before that where at another property, they had um, misbehaved, I guess, and um, yeah, so anyhow, the owner of that house brought him over. They were scheduled to come over to investigate. So she was with them because she felt that I maybe she felt that I couldn't handle it, but I could handle myself pretty damn good um, but she wanted to be there and they were there about an hour just did some posing, and then they were off to the penitentiary, which I was fine with that, you know. But uh, and, and they're so, I mean, they're young kids, you know, just young kids.
Speaker 5:Back then it was, um, my gosh, it was still escape zone when they came over. So it was yeah, yeah, it was, yeah, it was uh, cute, I'm sitting here. The only thing I could think of was my god, I hope they got a good manager, somebody good to manage their you know their finances, because you know they're just running around doing all this shit and you know, I just hope that they're saving some money.
Speaker 3:You know the money right, yeah, most likely that they didn't, but you know it did. Yeah, that's most likely they didn't. They probably most they might might have saved some money or spending on ridiculous shit.
Speaker 5:It's either one or the other but they were very polite with me, very, very polite. I polite. I've only had one person who wasn't so polite in the house. Everybody's been very, very good, but the one person I handled them. You know I'm used to handling assholes anyway. I mean I was a casino host, so you know I was going to say I have to travel with a lot of people, right, you know, leave their ass and jail and everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I mean. And you live in vegas, so I mean you have to be that tough when you're out there. That's, that's, oh yeah all right, so we can't just let that go. So who was? Who was that person and why was he an asshole? What?
Speaker 5:what happened. So him, uh, so his name I, I call him bad benny, okay and um, bad benny was probably about six foot four and he was out in the middle of the street making a damn fool of himself and, um, he had to go, that's all, that's all I'll say. And I told him he, he, he can't stay, you know, you can't stay, you're, you're an asshole, you have to go. So, and he just thought he was just going to point his finger at me I'm five foot five and tell me that he paid and he'll do whatever the hell he wants to do. And it wasn't that way, you know, he didn't scare me. So, anyway, he had to leave. But he called and apologized yeah, was he drunk.
Speaker 5:I think he was on drugs.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I think when you say drugs.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, I think he was fine.
Speaker 4:When you say he called and apologized, usually it's someone who's drunk, and then the next day they sober up and they're like, oh man, I was an idiot.
Speaker 5:It was a funny conversation, you know, no hard feelings. I hope he gets straight. And my only comment to him was I says bad Benny, and that's what I call him bad Benny. I says bad Benny, and that's what I call him bad Benny. I says I've got one. Just one question Did your girlfriend put you up to this?
Speaker 4:apology, the answer was yes.
Speaker 5:The answer absolutely was probably yes, Because she told me I should do it and I said that's enough, we're good bad Benny. I said you take good care of yourself and get yourself out. Get yourself straight, bud, All right.
Speaker 3:So is is bad bunny, bad bunny.
Speaker 4:We don't want him you want bad Benny.
Speaker 3:Is he allowed to come back to the Ross house? Yeah, he can come back. Yeah, oh, there you go, he does it again. You'll get kicked out again. So hard feelings, Benny.
Speaker 5:It just can't be. I've had a lot worse, not in this business, but when I was in it, when I was an executive host. I had, you know, I've had to leave people in jail, you know.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, it's good me and bad, benny's good yeah that's well, I mean that's good. And with the name like bad, benny, I you know. At first I thought you're gonna be like well, he was, you know whatever, and god rest his soul. I thought maybe you're gonna say like he well, he was, you know, whatever, and God rest his soul. I thought maybe you were going to say like he was gone, Like he had a whack or something. But no, he's good, he's fine.
Speaker 5:He'll be fine. He's just got to be good. He's got to be good, Benny, the next time, right.
Speaker 3:That's how it should be, so all right. Well, I mean, I, I think people need to go to the ross house page on facebook. I think they need to look at the reviews and you know, I, I want to. I want you to take this time, cindy, to tell people who are listening to scalarius. Give them your sales pitch. Why should they come to the Ross House? And if they wanted to, where could they find you to do so?
Speaker 5:Okay, why they should come to the Ross House, yeah, okay. Well, number one I think that in all honesty, I'm very, very fair on my pricing. Okay, I, um, I know and I'm not putting anybody down I understand a lot of these big places have a lot of um people that, um, they, they hire to help out and in this it's just me. Okay, I'm a lone soldier and I'm just doing my thing and I keep the prices reasonable. Um, it's an overnight stay, a total overnight stay. You're not leaving at five in the morning. Unless you want to leave at five in the morning. You can stay until nine o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 5:The house is clean and, um, and the beds are clean. Uh, you know, you got good mattresses to sleep on, fresh bedding. If you can sleep there, some people can't. You know, some people have been actually pushed out of bed. Um, you know, I, I think, yeah, we've had that happen too um, in the main bedroom. So, you know, I just think it's a safe place because you could be in that house door locks automatically behind you. It's a good place to investigate because it doesn't fail very often at all.
Speaker 5:You know, I don't know what else to say about it. You know there's things to do around to do that are not that far away. You can go over to the penitentiary. There's some. You know I always tell people you definitely got to go to the Prima Marina and if you come down there to that area again, definitely go to the Prima Marina to eat in Moundsville, because that's not far from the penitentiary. It's great food, big, large portions and great service. You know, it's just it's a good time.
Speaker 5:You know I treat everybody great. I greet them at the door, I give them a tour, tell them everything they need to know, you know, and answer any question. I'm available to them on text after they're done. If they need to talk about something or text me about something, I'm there. You know I'll answer anything I can in a very, very honest way and um gotten into some a little bit of riffs over a few things that uh, that uh maybe um, I have disagreed with with people, not what they find, but some of uh, my beliefs and their beliefs don't always match up. Okay, and that's on the Ouija board.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah, don't mess with that. You're just going to open up more shit and people are going to come in there Like ghosts, are just going to find their way in there, and then you're going to have a whole different kind of problem.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's just all bullshit. I just think that's just bullshit. You know, I and I have actually got my, had this, had a couple investigators come in and I actually I kind of have fun with it now because they'll say somebody has used a Ouija board in here, and I get probably many. I mean, you know, I don't give a shit, we use a Ouija board all you want. You know, ouija away.
Speaker 5:You know, I don't believe for one second that that goddamn board's gonna bring in the devil. You know, um, and you know they said well, they don't use it properly, they don't close it out. I go, and they don't close out any other equipment either. I mean, when you use these other things, do you say I'm signing off or goodbye? You don't say that shit, you know. So you know I. Just I don't believe it's any different than any other piece of equipment where you're trying to communicate, and I won't believe it until somebody proves otherwise. How about that? You prove that to me, then I'll believe that. You know, I mean that how I, how I feel about it that makes sense.
Speaker 3:We, we just did a, we did an episode, a few episodes back about about ouija boards, and we had some pretty uh interesting um stories that occurred uh from them. But I mean, I get it, you know, they're, you, like you said, it's like any other piece of equipment that you're going to use.
Speaker 3:But see, like me, I think about that and I'm like, okay, I'm stopping this and you can't come with me. See, that's, that's that point. You know that I, you know that I put on it, but not a lot of people do that, and you're right. When they don't do that, then I mean, it's no different than using a Ouija board, and you can, or any other piece of equipment you have.
Speaker 5:I don't think it's any different, you know, yeah, I just don't. I mean seances, you want to seance, seance away, you know you want to scry, scry away, know I? I just, um, I don't. And they say, well, your house will change. Well, that house has been the same, um, since the beginning. You know so. And I, and when it, when I feel, when there's negativity, that's in the house, I have this little lady who, um, you know, she'll come over and she'll talk to me and she'll, well, she actually goes in the house and she, you know, she says it's the people coming in, it's not the house. You know, your house is the same as always was. So, yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 3:Haunted is haunted. So I mean, look at it like that If it's haunted, it's haunted, If it's not, it's not.
Speaker 5:You can't. I mean it's not going to be, you know, I mean it's it's well, I believe it and I didn't even. I didn't even understand, I didn't even understand all this stuff before. You know, um, still don't, and a lot of things you know, but, um, but one thing about it I don't I don't throw no bullshit at you, um, you know the house, it is what it is, and people, I hope people will go on to my not my website as much as my Facebook page, because my website's just my website. Right, it was set quite a while ago, but you can read the reviews on the website. But go on my Facebook page and look at the evidence boards and that's what the people write and that's the. That's the real truth right there.
Speaker 3:Nice and is the Ross house on Facebook.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:All right, and then on your website, is it the Ross housecom?
Speaker 5:No, it's the Ross houseorg Dot org.
Speaker 3:Okay, no, it's therosshouseorg.
Speaker 5:Dot org Okay.
Speaker 3:Very, very cool.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So every time I post it, I post everything they write. That's awesome. I think people need to go there. Like, if you live in that area Ohio, kentucky, west Virginia, anywhere around there, maybe Pennsylvania, all up in that area go visit the ross house, have yourself a good time. And I feel cindy, cindy, I think you'll. I hate people. Listen. I think I think cindy it is. She seems pretty kick-ass. So I I feel like anybody who wants to like and then I don't. I don't think you want to mess with her. I can tell that right now.
Speaker 3:But you know, maybe just go hang out and see if we can find some ghosts or whatever at the cross house.
Speaker 5:All right, so so much repeat business four or five times, that's good, that's awesome.
Speaker 3:I'd like to go there maybe. Maybe me and d dubs can uh make our way. We have to go see steve anyway at some point, so we can go to west virginia and uh and ohio and he's a nice guy yeah, he was very cool.
Speaker 3:Uh, we actually a little funny thing about that. Uh, we interviewed him, uh, about his museum and uh, the episode, just it, it disappeared, it went bye bye and it just gone, yeah. So then I had to contact him. I'm like, hey, you want to do this again? He's like, yeah, that's cool, and we were on there for like what, like an hour and 20 minutes dw somewhere around there like something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was a longer one, yeah, and it just went away, yeah, so that kind of sucked it hasn't happened since we moved to Zoom, so knock on wood it hasn't happened yet, but yeah, you never know. But yeah, steve, very cool guy, incredible stories that he had, especially about the penitentiary and essentially in his museum, yeah, he's moved a couple times too, I believe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, he's around there, but he's amazing and I hope he's doing well. Hope you hear this, steve, you're doing well and, uh, keep kicking ass, buddy, keep collecting stuff, because you have really cool stuff to collect, all right. So, hey, cindy, there's the thing that we do, uh, as we're closing out the show and what that is. It's called, it's, it's called this or that, and basically what it is is that we, we talk to our guests, we we ask some questions, um, and essentially it's a way to get to know them in a very superficial type of way, like just barely even breaking the skin type of level, like it's just, I mean, it's not real deep. So I was just kind of wondering are you, are you ready for this or that?
Speaker 3:yeah all right, cool, okay. So I have another question, and this one's for the dubster over there. Hey W do you have this or that this week, or do you want old John to take the reins? I?
Speaker 4:was just thinking I've done the last couple. Do you want to take the reins?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I should. Okay, I think, yeah, I want to take these reins back, steer this ship.
Speaker 4:Yeah, what's going to happen?
Speaker 3:We're going to steer this ship right into the dock. That's how we're doing. All right, Cindy, you ready for this or that? Okay?
Speaker 5:This means I agree, that means no right.
Speaker 3:No, you just pick one.
Speaker 5:I'm going to give you two answers and you just pick one.
Speaker 3:All right, we're going to start with breakfast. Are you ready for breakfast? Yes, let's go with breakfast. Pancakes or waffles Waffles, very cool. Sausage or bacon.
Speaker 5:Oh bacon. Hashbrowns or breakfast potatoes, hash browns nice, very easy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, very easy she knows what she wants.
Speaker 4:She's not hesitating.
Speaker 3:I know, would you want your eggs scrambled or over easy?
Speaker 5:Scrambled.
Speaker 3:Okay. Lots of ketchup, oh okay, all right. Coffee with creamer, or without.
Speaker 5:Oh, shit Creamer, yeah, yeah, cream.
Speaker 3:All right Donuts or bagels.
Speaker 5:I love my carb Bagels.
Speaker 3:Very awesome. All right, we're going to get away from breakfast a little bit and we're going to just go with some overall questions. Would you rather fly or drive? Definitely fly. Very cool.
Speaker 5:I fly a lot.
Speaker 3:And if you were to drive, would you want to drive a car or a truck? Oh a car yeah. Okay. All right, we're going to get into the really cool stuff Disneyland or Universal Studios.
Speaker 5:Oh boy, disneyland, yeah, with the grandkids.
Speaker 3:There you go. All right, I like your style. All right, we're going to go back to some fun ones here. Okay, paranormal or comedy.
Speaker 5:Paranormal.
Speaker 3:Nice. Now I'm taking a page out of DW's book and I'm going to ask you this, and I feel this should be a good one. Okay, alright, let me see John Olsen. John Olsen, or the menendez brothers, john olsen.
Speaker 4:Thank you, that wasn't even a hesitation, just gonna throw that out there, all right, and the?
Speaker 3:creme de la creme and the creme de la creme, the coup de gras, so to speak, which means the end Fabulous Las Vegas, nevada or New Orleans.
Speaker 4:Oh.
Speaker 5:Jesus Christ, that's an easy one. I hate New Orleans. Been there too many times with players.
Speaker 3:It's definitely Vegas, baby, all right. Vegas's definitely vegas baby, all right awesome.
Speaker 4:Well, that's cool. I didn't get sick of it when you were living there, I guess yeah, well, I have a son who's a professional poker player I go out every.
Speaker 5:I try to go out there every june to uh, when he's in town to watch him in the wsop. Oh nice, okay yeah that's very cool.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. Um, gambling has only ruined my life, but you know other people seems to work out for him.
Speaker 5:That's, that's good yeah, he's, he's professional, he works, uh, he works for american card room, uh, acr, and they do a lot of traveling together. They're pros. I'm not sure how many pros they have, but they traveled a lot. But when he's in Vegas I always try to see him.
Speaker 3:Wow, that's awesome. That is really cool. All right, well, I just want to say, cindy, that this was absolutely amazing. You are I mean the stories that you have there are incredible. That house, I feel, uh, should be extremely, extremely busy, uh, based on all the activity that is that's around there yeah, it's everything, everything you can imagine if you know, that's really cool.
Speaker 3:Now I'm gonna ask you one final question and then we're gonna go. So okay, here it is. If there is one, one team or one person that you would want to investigate the ross house, who would that be? Oh, you, you guys. Aw.
Speaker 5:All right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, come on down. We didn't even pay her. That's the awesome thing.
Speaker 4:I don't even investigate stuff, but cool DW will be sitting there drinking his coffee and then, yeah, it'll be all cool, it'll be all right, we'll have a blast.
Speaker 3:It'll be great. Something will come up and strangle you and poke you in the back, and We'll have a blast, it'll be great.
Speaker 4:Something will come up and strangle you and poke you in the back and I'll be like, eh, that was the wind, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, we have recorded a podcast in a haunted place before twice technically, and both times I didn't see anything. Yeah, but we could most definitely. I think it would be badass to do that, especially an overnight investigation, yeah, that'd be, badass to do that especially an overnight investigation? Yeah, That'd be cool, yeah, and then we could just record all night long DW, you record your snoring, and then, yeah, what is this? I don't understand. Why do we have three hours of?
Speaker 4:I'm pretty sure between the two of us would be.
Speaker 3:That's probably my yeah yeah, to be honest, all right. Well, like I said, cindy, it was amazing. Um, I, I hope, I hope, uh, for an immense success for the ross house. For you, yeah, you're very welcome. I think everybody needs to go there. And, yeah, you, if anything really crazy happens, you know, at at the Ross house you get. You're more than welcome to come back on Scalarius and talk about it, cause, yeah, your stories are pretty, pretty cool. I enjoyed them.
Speaker 5:Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3:You're very welcome.
Speaker 5:Yeah, can I put my phone number out there?
Speaker 3:if you want to. I don't, I think you know you don't know here. Oh, that's one thing I want to say. Um dw, we have a new country that has joined us. Gosh, uh, the ukraine, really. The Ukraine, really, yeah, all right. Okay, cindy, if you want people from the Ukraine calling you. I mean if you want, you can most definitely put your phone number out there, but yeah, go ahead If they're interested in an investigation.
Speaker 5:most of the people text me okay. Text me Okay and they can text 740-232-4544. If they're seriously interested in booking a date.
Speaker 3:I set it all up for them. Awesome, nice.
Speaker 5:That's pretty bad. I don't have to keep going into my website.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there you go. That's the easiest way to do it. No one's ever done that before and I can assure you if I put my phone number out there I would have there'd be a problem. I think. Hang on a second john's number is cw. Come on now you. You already hurt my feelings the other day, but call me an acquaintance, so we're just gonna go wait it was pretty good I I was proud of that I, I enjoy it.
Speaker 3:We, I love our banter. He thinks I'm not his friend, but I, I prove him wrong every time. So yeah I, I don't know where when that term started. So yeah, all right, we gotta go. People need to go to bed, alright, well, you know. I don't know if you know what this means, but I know what this means. This means that you guys have been amazing and we have been scolarius and we are out later thank you very much.